Joe: People that are indoctrinated into the church and don’t want to leave will do Objectives just to keep themselves out of the Sea Org and keep the Sea Org “in the dark” by saying the Objectives helped them when they really could not have in that context. Neither party wins “but seem like good Scientologists to each other”. Really, really, really, bad news. 🙂

Been squeezing my can for a month but it still won’t fit into my size 4 jeans anymore, sheesh!

Perfect!

Hi Joe Pendleton, As you do so well,another spot-on post.For me as the years continue to wind down, I find I have more clarity now in what I believe for me.I am not a member of any organized religion, but I know with total certainly that I am more than just body, brain and nothing else.I feel I will go to a Light when I pass on, but I have no idea how all that is accomplished.I’ll find out ! Laughter.Always Love,Ann.

Mike: Let me shed a little light on the topic. What Warren Tardif is saying makes sense to a point that NOT’s and SOLO NOT’s are so exciting because one is handling the source of the reactive mind. Trying to copy unconscious or dormant mass or make a picture of it can pose problems to a thetan. But, then on the other hand trying to duplicate the confused misleading “mystery” that is the Church of Scientology today at the same time and get desired results can also pose problems to a thetan as well. 🙂

Joe, this soul information is as old as life itself. Ron’s claimings that he’s discovered anything is akin to claiming he’s discovered air.
Ron created his own vocabulary to separate himself from what is known so he can be perceived as unique.

Ron’s singular uniqueness seems to be in his ability to convince people of his fallacious scientism through Altitude Instruction per his writing of the same title.

You’re dam right he made it all up.And the gullible just eat it up. And emptied there savings. I would have to rank this as the biggest scam in history .Bravo mr. Hubard, bravo.

Carl Sagan has something to say about this in his book, A Demon-Haunted World. He could change your mind.

Another good read about the “I” and what it actually is, is, The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat, by Oliver Sacks, neurologist.

Another one, Lifetides by Lyall Watson.

Between these three books, you may change your minds about what it’s all about.

These three scientist/writers haven’t thumb sucked or made things up. Nor do they claim to have all the answers.