Comments on: OT IX: Orders Of Magnitude Of Pie In The Sky https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/ Something Can Be Done About It Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:31:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: stoker https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77908 Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:31:47 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77908 Didn’t OT VIII used to be the highest? So what happened? Did too many celebs pay their way to OT VIII, so now they had to devise new OTs to keep the money flowing? Were too many OT VIIIs asking “So now I’m here, wherecare my super-powers?”. Ah no, that was a misunderstanding! You don’t get that at OT 8, you get it at OT 80! So there’s still a long way to go and $$$$$$$ to pay!!

]]> By: cindy https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77669 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:26:16 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77669 In reply to Ms.P.

Well said Aqua!

]]> By: Jenni S https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77628 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:22:12 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77628 If there are any handwriting analysts out there, it would be interesting what they make of DM’s signature.

]]> By: Pericles https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77625 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:04:29 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77625 I have/had(haven’t been in touch for a couple of years) from Dubai who spent 3 years on the Badwind$ doing his OT IX & X preps and last I heard he’s “ready”. I just hope he is wise wnoughto not have bequeathed his several oil wells over to Miscarriage.

]]> By: Friend https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77574 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:40:14 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77574 My reference to the above comment is HCOB 22 Dez 1969 II “O/W, A Limited Theory” .. which is a nice work from LRH ..

It goes from Independent Beings down to Being Critical of Self .. a chaplain should be handle the way from Communication to Miscommunication or from Control to Miscontrol .. or Help to Failed Help .. so he may also go onto Overts and Withholds to Overts and Witholds by Transfer ..

Worrying Others or Worrying about Others goes to the above said Overts and Withholds .. Being critical or Being Critical of Self is the same because it goes also up to Overt and Withholds ..

I do not say that this reference is complete .. next step would be Stop Critic and then Believe .. and then lower Stop Believe and then Die forever .. I say, that you are a complete Independent Being when you are death forever .. but you are then alone .. and this story was sold by LRH with OT III .. you have to help all this guys who are death and alone .. and certainly you have to be critical of yourself when you do that on your NED for OTs .. otherwise you would never make progress with it ..

A chaplain in good state should say: This is all bullshit. It is all a lie. Never was any being run into the sky because of an explosion. Never were beings sitting 30 or more days around a screen and watching lot of bullshit .. Never was anybody able to transfer billions of thetans with DC 8 like machines through the air from whereever to planet Earth .. and nobody could ever be implanted on Hawaii or Las Palma because this places did not exist on Earth at this time .. this places were underwater at this time .. and so you may grasp why LRH said that you will get lung problems if you look at it on lower levels .. naturally, everybody get lung problems if he stays 30 or more days underwater .. bubble bubble ..

Lets say the Basics are a critic to every scientologist and also to LRH. We have here Being Critical .. and further Being Critical of Self .. it goes hand in hand .. if you went on this Basics project, you are done, you will have everything lost for which you gave your word to LRH .. and in your protest about, you will have missed the existence of a chaplain .. Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun did good work about ..

]]> By: Bognition https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77569 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:17:12 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77569 In reply to Schorsch.

Yep, I’m an “old timer” watching my former church disintegrate at the hands of a maniac.

]]> By: I Yawnalot https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77565 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:39:09 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77565 In reply to deanblair06.

I thought the position of anti-Christ was already filled – Jon Atack.
Maybe it’ll be double hatted?

]]> By: Friend https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77564 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:30:00 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77564 Lets give a comment, maybe not on top. When I studied LRH for a long time, with the goal to find out what he really wanted .. I found lot of outpoints. One of it is, that the line of policies can not be easily found .. it means you have to figure it for yourself (which I did) .. finally it became clear to me that he wrote at one day for every division a policy .. and so I got more about his idea of the day .. understand?

As said above, I was interested to know what LRH did really want .. not his philosophy, only his intensions how he tried to get that handled. So I studied also the tech .. my database gives me also all bulletin which he wrote at a certain day .. I mean, when I ask fur June 1954 or April 1969 I get all bulletion or whatever and policy on my screen .. this was my way to figure about LRH intentions .. and how he changed this in the years .. it is better than going with the basics .. sure, because LRH did critic his own books, and this is not in the books .. books are promo in basic .. it is no tech in the books ..

I did follow my own interest. It means I asked me about the role of the chaplain. What I will say is, from my view a leader of a church should be a great guru but surely also a gread chaplain .. it means a great guru has to be a great chaplain too .. so I studied bulletin and policy at the same time ..

There is not a lot given from LRH about the role of a chaplain. He stays in Div 6 without a lot of power for him .. although he should have the whole power .. in older times there was no chaplain on post, and if, then he was more in trouble himself as the public was (my observation) ..

The leader of a church should be a good chaplain .. if not, there is no church .. that is all what I wanted to say here .. LRH said somewhere in a bulletin or policy: the ruin of civilizations goes with not having a good chaplain in place, or have none, who will help out if needed .. someone which you can trust ..

I wanted to say that. The church has no chaplain on post who will help you .. but should have .. so on, Mike Rinder or Marty Rathbun or I or some others here .. would be much better on this then anybody in the current church ..

I will say also, if somebody spends a lot of money for freedom of others .. means in all religions that he will buy some sort of freedom .. the chaplain should ask: From What?

]]> By: Schorsch https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77563 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:07:14 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77563 In reply to Bognition.

Looks like you had been one of those that did the OT levels “back in time”.

]]> By: Espiritu https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-ix-orders-of-magnitude-of-pie-in-the-sky/#comment-77562 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:48:10 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=21982#comment-77562 Absolutely right, Shelley. It’s a ship on the way to a ship wreck. Captain Ahab Miscavige will go down with the stolen ship, but first he has to make sure that it sinks. Very dramatic. Ahoy Dave. Don’t forget to tie the anchor rope around your neck.

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