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		By: oldarpanet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 18:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I expect this poor girl is going to be told, eventually, that she didn&#039;t REALLY achieve clear and she has to re-do her lower bridge to fill in the gaps missed because of faulty admin (Omitted GAT III) and then all the other GC steps or some such nonsense, and, of course she&#039;ll go along with it because she wants to be totally &quot;standard.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect this poor girl is going to be told, eventually, that she didn&#8217;t REALLY achieve clear and she has to re-do her lower bridge to fill in the gaps missed because of faulty admin (Omitted GAT III) and then all the other GC steps or some such nonsense, and, of course she&#8217;ll go along with it because she wants to be totally &#8220;standard.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dead Man Talking Bill Straass		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499773&quot;&gt;Dead Man Talking Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

( Continued) So, we had 4 generators, the newer 6R22 generators and of the older 8R14TK generators ( The &quot;8&quot; stands for 8 cylinders, the &quot;R&quot; stands again for &quot; in line&quot; and the &quot;14&quot; stands for 140 mm diameter cylinders. These generated 7 or 800 horsepower. 
      Three of the four generators had to be running and &quot; on line&quot; in order for the bow thruster to operate. The bow thruster was only used to enter or leave port. So if a Generator was to fail going into or out of port and there was a lot of wind; the ship could have been blown onto the rocks.
     This happened once while I was on Condition 1 ( all hands on duty). Generator #2 died out and the bow thruster kicked off. I ran down the stairs to the engine room but there was nothing that I could do.
     The governor on generator #2 had locked up as it had been replaced the day before by the generator mechanic but was not aligned properly as the engine block had been replaced by the previous company after a  connecting rod went though the block. One of the parts where the governor mounts had a piece broken out which locates the governor in line with it&#039;s drive shaft.
     So it was pushing sideways on the governor shaft when tightened down and a bushing the governor got hot and welded to the shaft. This caused the bronze gear on the camshaft to strip is teeth and the governor to stop rotating. Either way, I do not believe that the ship was ever in the Mediterranean Sea, let alone Greece.
      I figured it all ut by the next day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499773">Dead Man Talking Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>( Continued) So, we had 4 generators, the newer 6R22 generators and of the older 8R14TK generators ( The &#8220;8&#8221; stands for 8 cylinders, the &#8220;R&#8221; stands again for &#8221; in line&#8221; and the &#8220;14&#8221; stands for 140 mm diameter cylinders. These generated 7 or 800 horsepower.<br />
      Three of the four generators had to be running and &#8221; on line&#8221; in order for the bow thruster to operate. The bow thruster was only used to enter or leave port. So if a Generator was to fail going into or out of port and there was a lot of wind; the ship could have been blown onto the rocks.<br />
     This happened once while I was on Condition 1 ( all hands on duty). Generator #2 died out and the bow thruster kicked off. I ran down the stairs to the engine room but there was nothing that I could do.<br />
     The governor on generator #2 had locked up as it had been replaced the day before by the generator mechanic but was not aligned properly as the engine block had been replaced by the previous company after a  connecting rod went though the block. One of the parts where the governor mounts had a piece broken out which locates the governor in line with it&#8217;s drive shaft.<br />
     So it was pushing sideways on the governor shaft when tightened down and a bushing the governor got hot and welded to the shaft. This caused the bronze gear on the camshaft to strip is teeth and the governor to stop rotating. Either way, I do not believe that the ship was ever in the Mediterranean Sea, let alone Greece.<br />
      I figured it all ut by the next day.</p>
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		By: Dead Man Talking Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499779</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499773&quot;&gt;Dead Man Talking Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

( Continued) So, we had 4 generators, the newer 6R22 generators and of the older 8R14TK generators ( The &quot;8&quot; stands for 8 cylinders, the &quot;R&quot; stands again for &quot; in line&quot; and the &quot;14&quot; stands for 140 mm diameter cylinders. These generated 7 or 800 horsepower. 
      Three of the four generators had to be running and &quot; on line&quot; in order for the bow thruster to operate. The bow thruster was only used to enter or leave port. So if a Generator was to fail going into or out of port and there was a lot of wind; the ship could have been blown onto the rocks.
     This happened once while I was on Condition 1 ( all hands on duty). Generator #2 died out and the bow thruster kicked off. I ran down the stairs to the engine room but there was nothing that I could do.
     The governor n generator #2 had locked up as it had been replaced the day before by the generator mechanic but was not aligned properly as the engine block had been replaced by the previous company after  connecting rod went though the block. One of the parts where the governor mounts had a piece broken out which locates the governor in line with it&#039;s drive shaft.
     So it was pushing sideways on the governor shaft when tightened down and a bushing the governor got hot and welded to the shaft. This caused the bronze gear on the camshaft o strip is teeth and the governor to stop rotating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499773">Dead Man Talking Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>( Continued) So, we had 4 generators, the newer 6R22 generators and of the older 8R14TK generators ( The &#8220;8&#8221; stands for 8 cylinders, the &#8220;R&#8221; stands again for &#8221; in line&#8221; and the &#8220;14&#8221; stands for 140 mm diameter cylinders. These generated 7 or 800 horsepower.<br />
      Three of the four generators had to be running and &#8221; on line&#8221; in order for the bow thruster to operate. The bow thruster was only used to enter or leave port. So if a Generator was to fail going into or out of port and there was a lot of wind; the ship could have been blown onto the rocks.<br />
     This happened once while I was on Condition 1 ( all hands on duty). Generator #2 died out and the bow thruster kicked off. I ran down the stairs to the engine room but there was nothing that I could do.<br />
     The governor n generator #2 had locked up as it had been replaced the day before by the generator mechanic but was not aligned properly as the engine block had been replaced by the previous company after  connecting rod went though the block. One of the parts where the governor mounts had a piece broken out which locates the governor in line with it&#8217;s drive shaft.<br />
     So it was pushing sideways on the governor shaft when tightened down and a bushing the governor got hot and welded to the shaft. This caused the bronze gear on the camshaft o strip is teeth and the governor to stop rotating.</p>
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		By: Dead Man Talking Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499773</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499699&quot;&gt;Bryon Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

Captain Right Arm John Michael ( Mike) Napier ( The only one in the S.O.) is a liar. 
     The Freewinds (originally called the Boheme which was still it&#039;s name when I came aboard) was built in 1967-68 at the Wartsila shipyard n Turku, Finland for a company in Bremen, Germany. It sailed for a year and a half before it had to go for a complete refit in 1970. The single A/C chiller unit was totally insufficient to cool the ship for it&#039;s new sailing area in the Caribbean sea. In 1983 there was a fire ( probably a fuel fire) which burned the entire generator room in which two of the generators were removed and replaced by 6 cylinder model 6R22 generators. ( The &quot; 6; means 6 cylinders; the &quot;R&quot; means Radial; or in line and the &quot;22&quot; means that the cylinders had a diameter of 220 millmeters. They turned at 1000 RPM and had an output of 1100 horsepower each. (Continued).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499699">Bryon Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>Captain Right Arm John Michael ( Mike) Napier ( The only one in the S.O.) is a liar.<br />
     The Freewinds (originally called the Boheme which was still it&#8217;s name when I came aboard) was built in 1967-68 at the Wartsila shipyard n Turku, Finland for a company in Bremen, Germany. It sailed for a year and a half before it had to go for a complete refit in 1970. The single A/C chiller unit was totally insufficient to cool the ship for it&#8217;s new sailing area in the Caribbean sea. In 1983 there was a fire ( probably a fuel fire) which burned the entire generator room in which two of the generators were removed and replaced by 6 cylinder model 6R22 generators. ( The &#8221; 6; means 6 cylinders; the &#8220;R&#8221; means Radial; or in line and the &#8220;22&#8221; means that the cylinders had a diameter of 220 millmeters. They turned at 1000 RPM and had an output of 1100 horsepower each. (Continued).</p>
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		By: Bryon Eckert		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499702</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499516&quot;&gt;mwesten&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, yeah, auditing is basically hypnosis.  The key-out will eventually go away, which is why the success story must be written immediately.  It also explains why  auditing is so expensive.  This puts pressure on the PC to have wins.  I personally do not plan to get more auditing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499516">mwesten</a>.</p>
<p>Well, yeah, auditing is basically hypnosis.  The key-out will eventually go away, which is why the success story must be written immediately.  It also explains why  auditing is so expensive.  This puts pressure on the PC to have wins.  I personally do not plan to get more auditing.</p>
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		By: Bryon Eckert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499436&quot;&gt;Dead Men Talking Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike Napier told me the Boheme ship deal started on a Greek island.  I can only imagine how the sellers felt when they realized the naivete of Miscavage and company.  With the blue asbestos and worn hull, a knowledgeable customer would have realized she was only fit to be scuttled.  The story behind the marketing of the Freewinds and OT8 is truly amazing.]]></description>
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<p>Mike Napier told me the Boheme ship deal started on a Greek island.  I can only imagine how the sellers felt when they realized the naivete of Miscavage and company.  With the blue asbestos and worn hull, a knowledgeable customer would have realized she was only fit to be scuttled.  The story behind the marketing of the Freewinds and OT8 is truly amazing.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2022 17:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499432&quot;&gt;Dead Man Talking Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

I think he may go before you because he is under suck stress on that rust bucket.]]></description>
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<p>I think he may go before you because he is under suck stress on that rust bucket.</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2022 16:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Despite all of her superpowers, she still masked/gloved up like every other unquestioning establishment bootlicker. Scientologists stand for nothing but the status they think their framed receipts gives them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite all of her superpowers, she still masked/gloved up like every other unquestioning establishment bootlicker. Scientologists stand for nothing but the status they think their framed receipts gives them.</p>
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		By: WWW : Wisdom of the Wog World		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WWW : Wisdom of the Wog World]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2022 16:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499494&quot;&gt;DesS&lt;/a&gt;.

<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44c.png" alt="👌" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />

Obsession  is a key <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f511.png" alt="🔑" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />  factor in any cult as it throws you out of objectivity.

Any objectivism is heresy or taboo subjective to disciplinary actions. 

It reminds me of Nicole Kidman&#039;s movie Body Snather and Katie Holmes  The Giver .]]></description>
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<p>👌</p>
<p>Obsession  is a key 🔑  factor in any cult as it throws you out of objectivity.</p>
<p>Any objectivism is heresy or taboo subjective to disciplinary actions. </p>
<p>It reminds me of Nicole Kidman&#8217;s movie Body Snather and Katie Holmes  The Giver .</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2022 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499420&quot;&gt;Scott Campbell&lt;/a&gt;.

Lucifer is the least of DM&#039;s worries. Hub&#039;s far more shocking reveal is the admission his tech only produces &quot;temporary key-outs.&quot; Oops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-is-a-scam/#comment-499420">Scott Campbell</a>.</p>
<p>Lucifer is the least of DM&#8217;s worries. Hub&#8217;s far more shocking reveal is the admission his tech only produces &#8220;temporary key-outs.&#8221; Oops.</p>
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