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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-194033</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-194002&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

The &quot;docs&quot; are this blog Cindy.  VERY simple.  EVERY person I&#039;ve named as a psycho has  ended attacking Mike &#038; Leah for disclosing church crimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-194002">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>The &#8220;docs&#8221; are this blog Cindy.  VERY simple.  EVERY person I&#8217;ve named as a psycho has  ended attacking Mike &amp; Leah for disclosing church crimes.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-194002</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 19:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193793&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Wynski, if I wanted to get into a long debate with you, I would challenge your &quot;never been wrong in my targeting statement by asking for docs as in provide docs that prove you&#039;ve never been wrong in your targeting.  You have targeted A LOT of people on this blog, including me at one time.  But as I said, I don&#039;t want to debate you, so I won&#039;t demand docs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193793">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Wynski, if I wanted to get into a long debate with you, I would challenge your &#8220;never been wrong in my targeting statement by asking for docs as in provide docs that prove you&#8217;ve never been wrong in your targeting.  You have targeted A LOT of people on this blog, including me at one time.  But as I said, I don&#8217;t want to debate you, so I won&#8217;t demand docs.</p>
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		By: madame duran (@madameduran)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[madame duran (@madameduran)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193606&quot;&gt;Mark Granger&lt;/a&gt;.

I was just about to say the same thing (&quot;stable&quot;, &quot;happy&quot; can describe any number of non-Scientologists).

How many stable, happy, untroubled OTVIII&#039;s does one actually see out in society (assuming one encounters a Scientologist at all since the cult&#039;s membership stats are extremely low)?  How many of their smiles and (coerced) success stories hide the fact that

a) they&#039;re in deep debt?
b) they&#039;re on their 3rd or 4th marriage?
c) their family is fractured due to disconnection?
d) they&#039;re mentally fragile, on the verge of a breakdown?
e) they&#039;re either living in fear or anger all the time under the threat of &quot;entheta&quot;?

In the online responses I&#039;ve read, OTs are miserable, bitter, crass, vile, petty, arrogant, insane creatures that often pollute their communication and their space with conflicting Hubbard dogmas.  Far from the image of contentment or stability that the cult wishes to project.  I can do without the stress of keeping up a façade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193606">Mark Granger</a>.</p>
<p>I was just about to say the same thing (&#8220;stable&#8221;, &#8220;happy&#8221; can describe any number of non-Scientologists).</p>
<p>How many stable, happy, untroubled OTVIII&#8217;s does one actually see out in society (assuming one encounters a Scientologist at all since the cult&#8217;s membership stats are extremely low)?  How many of their smiles and (coerced) success stories hide the fact that</p>
<p>a) they&#8217;re in deep debt?<br />
b) they&#8217;re on their 3rd or 4th marriage?<br />
c) their family is fractured due to disconnection?<br />
d) they&#8217;re mentally fragile, on the verge of a breakdown?<br />
e) they&#8217;re either living in fear or anger all the time under the threat of &#8220;entheta&#8221;?</p>
<p>In the online responses I&#8217;ve read, OTs are miserable, bitter, crass, vile, petty, arrogant, insane creatures that often pollute their communication and their space with conflicting Hubbard dogmas.  Far from the image of contentment or stability that the cult wishes to project.  I can do without the stress of keeping up a façade.</p>
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		By: Snake Thompson's Ghost		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snake Thompson's Ghost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 23:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193627&quot;&gt;Lance Caldwell&lt;/a&gt;.

C/S = Case supervisor, I believe. The person who reviews an auditor&#039;s work and a PC&#039;s progress, and can intervene to &quot;handle&quot; errors in treatment or approach. In the end the C/S verifies that the PC has made the appropriate progress for the just-completed level or grade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193627">Lance Caldwell</a>.</p>
<p>C/S = Case supervisor, I believe. The person who reviews an auditor&#8217;s work and a PC&#8217;s progress, and can intervene to &#8220;handle&#8221; errors in treatment or approach. In the end the C/S verifies that the PC has made the appropriate progress for the just-completed level or grade.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193828</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193818&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Naw Aqua you are qualified to comment on anything Hubbard wrote. Don&#039;t sell your intelligence nor observational powers short.

 If he [Ron] said that OT 8&#039;s can run at the speed of light you can comment that no one has ever shown that ability to your knowledge. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193818">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Naw Aqua you are qualified to comment on anything Hubbard wrote. Don&#8217;t sell your intelligence nor observational powers short.</p>
<p> If he [Ron] said that OT 8&#8217;s can run at the speed of light you can comment that no one has ever shown that ability to your knowledge. 🙂</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193818&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Typo: &quot;want to&quot; not &quot;widh&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193818">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Typo: &#8220;want to&#8221; not &#8220;widh&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193791&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

I get it. Ok, then I can look up the EP of those OT levels online if I widh.  I&#039;ve never read the OT levels online.  All I know about the OT levels so far is the Xenu story and the Clear Cognition which are ubiquitous. I didn&#039;t know that the EPs for all the Grades and for Clear and for the OT levels are also online.  In my post I meant to convey that I was unqualified to opine on the OT levels&#039; EPs one way or another due to having had no personal experience with them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193791">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>I get it. Ok, then I can look up the EP of those OT levels online if I widh.  I&#8217;ve never read the OT levels online.  All I know about the OT levels so far is the Xenu story and the Clear Cognition which are ubiquitous. I didn&#8217;t know that the EPs for all the Grades and for Clear and for the OT levels are also online.  In my post I meant to convey that I was unqualified to opine on the OT levels&#8217; EPs one way or another due to having had no personal experience with them.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 19:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193794&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193794">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 19:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193656&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

OSD, it would be fun to continue playing a kind of x-rated George Burns to your Gracie Allen but this is a family blog so I&#039;m going to stop now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193656">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>OSD, it would be fun to continue playing a kind of x-rated George Burns to your Gracie Allen but this is a family blog so I&#8217;m going to stop now.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 19:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193619&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

LOLOL!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/ot-viii-success/#comment-193619">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>LOLOL!</p>
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