Pluvo:
“It didn’t make sense that Hubbard would write the massive “Mission Earth” instead of working on the completion of the OT levels.
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Having read the existing OT levels — I forget where I grabbed a copy from — there’s nothing to “complete”. Just like the “Clear cog” was that it was all mocked up, OT VIII teaches us that all we did prior to that point wasn’t “us” or anything else approaching reality. ‘Twas all fantasy, either ours, or, in the case of III, Ron’s fantasy enforced on all who got to that point.

Got it on everything. Whew! Good to know. Perfect example you furnished of civilized, analytical debate! Yes, I was brought up the same way. But nowadays I find myself treading very carefully, no matter if I am “armed” with verifiable facts. So many people either flip out and get very upset, or close off altogether and refuse to discuss if there is any disagreement.

I grew up with my parents having spirited discussions and debates over their martini before dinner. They could and sometimes did go at each other hammer and tongs but there was no disrespect, no insults were hurled. There were plenty of “May I point out to you that…”s if they happened to be disagreeing about something or someone, but it never got ugly. I was allowed to contribute but I got plenty of “And who told you that?”s …”And where did you read that?” You had to back up what you said, they taught me. But no matter how heated the subject of debate, once dinner was on the table, that was it! A consensus of opinion may or may not have been reached but no matter, the subject got shelved, possibly to be taken up the next evening, possibly not. Benign conversation at the dinner table. Those 2. Talk about being able to compartmentalize! They were something, those 2. I was lucky to have them for a brief time.

Nothing “controversial” about an experienced coroner who has much experience with suicides ruling this a homicide. PeaceMaker.

The ONLY controversy about this incident is that the dedicated guard posted to PREVENT such a murder was removed from the area immediately prior to the “suicide” (NO EXPLANATION) and 24/7 cameras to protect from same threat were TUNED OFF during the time of the “suicide” without explanation. AND other prisoners testified that they heard a multi-person struggle in the cell when the “suicide” occurred.

Only those with room temp IQ’s cannot figure this out.

Thank Aqua. Don’t worry nothing you could post politically would make me think badly of you as a person. I was trained old school where differences of political opinion didn’t effect relationships. Probably the best model of this was the British House of Commons of old (pre-1930’s).

Wyn, my friend, no worries, I got your reply even though it didn’t make it onto the blog. Which triggered a polite and respectful counterpunch I was all set to post to you. Which you would have hated 🙂 Pot-stirring stuff, Wynski 🙂 We have to control ourselves 🙂

The coroner ruled Epstein’s death a suicide. A controversial forensic expert-for-hire, brought in by Epstein’s estate and beneficiaries who have a huge financial interest in fending off lawsuits and claims that Epstein killed himself to avoid responsibility, provided an opinion that the death could be considered “more consistent with ligature homicidal strangulation” – hardly conclusive, regardless.

NYC medical examiner rejects claim that Jeffrey Epstein’s death was a homicide
> https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/us/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-fox/index.html

He “was awaiting trial on federal charges accusing him of sexually abusing underage girls and running a sex trafficking ring” – and there was indeed plenty of damning evidence for that.

Ballet Lady. I am really happy for your friend. He must be a really good person.

Hubbard had an immense ego. The contradiction is that when you increase your spiritual consciousness your ego should disappear as it is a reflection of your experiences and therefore what you identify with (but you are not). And becoming aware then you are more yourself in the present.
But in my opinion he wasn’t. Otherwise things would have been said and done in different ways.

Disconnection has a strong hold because in SCN you “learn” that you are a thetan that has always existed and that parents are actually only bodies inhabited by other beings. But my dear friend, even if it were so, to love someone does NOT require “logical” reasoning. Loving is natural. SCN is NOT natural.
Take care!

Oh I had not seen anything that named those people as either murderers or “pedos”? Epstein might have been murdered and a pedophile… but don’t know about the others.

A coroner who examined all the evidence already said it was murder not suicide. The evidence on the pedo side is very high. High enough that prosecution was already started…

But it’s your site and you have to set the bar according to your judgement not mine. I just go with what is legally able to be printed