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		By: Mike Henderson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2016 03:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nick Lekas is my brother in law. Melanies husband. I had heard Chelsea and Mel went to Pasadena when the SO took over LA Day and Fdn. I wonder what it takes to wake somebody up . Hey, wake up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Lekas is my brother in law. Melanies husband. I had heard Chelsea and Mel went to Pasadena when the SO took over LA Day and Fdn. I wonder what it takes to wake somebody up . Hey, wake up!</p>
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		By: Cre8tivewmn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cre8tivewmn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 22:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136736&quot;&gt;secret for now (and slightly put-upon)&lt;/a&gt;.

Getting there...now you can say it instead of trying not to think it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136736">secret for now (and slightly put-upon)</a>.</p>
<p>Getting there&#8230;now you can say it instead of trying not to think it.</p>
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		By: alcoboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alcoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 22:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136701&quot;&gt;Friend&lt;/a&gt;.

Good point. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136701">Friend</a>.</p>
<p>Good point. Thanks.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136731&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

They do it on the cheap and put up DN Posters and things that fill the window.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136731">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>They do it on the cheap and put up DN Posters and things that fill the window.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136726&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

Joe as I live and breathe, yes Drew Johnston got a moonlighting job while being an FSM.  I know because I went to the co he was working for and he came in the room and talked to me and we specifically talked about why he was working there (changed the way FSM&#039;s are paid and my income was cut 50 to 70% he said.)  And in that meeting Drew told me that Pat Parodi was also doing outside work to meet his FP 1.  I started saying how unfair it was to do that etc, and Drew said not to buck it and just out create it.  So Drew never questions DM and never looks.  He just is a dutiful supporter.  That always surprised me about him because he is smart and highly trained (OT VII and Class VII field auditor and CS and Power FSM -- that is until they took all his certs away until he re-did the training bridge again when GAT II came out.)  I hope Drew cognites and gets out.  But that is not likely since he and Dede have a daughter in the SO and they&#039;d lose her if they did that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136726">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>Joe as I live and breathe, yes Drew Johnston got a moonlighting job while being an FSM.  I know because I went to the co he was working for and he came in the room and talked to me and we specifically talked about why he was working there (changed the way FSM&#8217;s are paid and my income was cut 50 to 70% he said.)  And in that meeting Drew told me that Pat Parodi was also doing outside work to meet his FP 1.  I started saying how unfair it was to do that etc, and Drew said not to buck it and just out create it.  So Drew never questions DM and never looks.  He just is a dutiful supporter.  That always surprised me about him because he is smart and highly trained (OT VII and Class VII field auditor and CS and Power FSM &#8212; that is until they took all his certs away until he re-did the training bridge again when GAT II came out.)  I hope Drew cognites and gets out.  But that is not likely since he and Dede have a daughter in the SO and they&#8217;d lose her if they did that.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136760&quot;&gt;secretfornow&lt;/a&gt;.

Not sure about FSO as it has LRH references other than HCO PLs that are written JUST for that org.  The question I had was for other orgs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136760">secretfornow</a>.</p>
<p>Not sure about FSO as it has LRH references other than HCO PLs that are written JUST for that org.  The question I had was for other orgs.</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[secretfornow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136754&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Flag is/was paying only ten percent on training instead of 15.  I&#039;ve no idea how or why.  

They won&#039;t pay commission for VII after the initial &quot;getting on&quot;.  So all the money for sec checks/handlings/etc on 6 month checks are not given commission.  The excuse I was told was that once on VII they no longer need to be &#039;handled&#039; to do the next part so the FSM is not actually FSMing them anymore.  It was total B.S. 

Also they twist the line in the policy of &quot;no cross FSMing&quot; to mean that no spouse can collect on the other spouse.  Even if you got them in and put them on course before you ever married them you won&#039;t get a commission after the wedding.  Nope.  

Basically Flag does what it wants and makes shit up to keep its greedy paws on the dough.  

(and remember, we couldn&#039;t buy the new meter off money on acct - it had be cashola at the till.  Forced to buy it, and forced to cashola it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136754">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Flag is/was paying only ten percent on training instead of 15.  I&#8217;ve no idea how or why.  </p>
<p>They won&#8217;t pay commission for VII after the initial &#8220;getting on&#8221;.  So all the money for sec checks/handlings/etc on 6 month checks are not given commission.  The excuse I was told was that once on VII they no longer need to be &#8216;handled&#8217; to do the next part so the FSM is not actually FSMing them anymore.  It was total B.S. </p>
<p>Also they twist the line in the policy of &#8220;no cross FSMing&#8221; to mean that no spouse can collect on the other spouse.  Even if you got them in and put them on course before you ever married them you won&#8217;t get a commission after the wedding.  Nope.  </p>
<p>Basically Flag does what it wants and makes shit up to keep its greedy paws on the dough.  </p>
<p>(and remember, we couldn&#8217;t buy the new meter off money on acct &#8211; it had be cashola at the till.  Forced to buy it, and forced to cashola it.)</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136720&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Cindy, someone showed it to me at the time.  Are you referring to when the change was made so that an &quot;FSM&quot; got paid as each service was started as opposed to all at once?  That was the only change I ever heard of since I&#039;ve been out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136720">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Cindy, someone showed it to me at the time.  Are you referring to when the change was made so that an &#8220;FSM&#8221; got paid as each service was started as opposed to all at once?  That was the only change I ever heard of since I&#8217;ve been out.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136732&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua, I&#039;ll be glad to hand over 13 cents.  As a Scotsman, that&#039;s a lot of money.  I was going to make it 3 cents, but, I thought I&#039;d be magnanimous....]]></description>
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<p>Aqua, I&#8217;ll be glad to hand over 13 cents.  As a Scotsman, that&#8217;s a lot of money.  I was going to make it 3 cents, but, I thought I&#8217;d be magnanimous&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Surfer Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136672&quot;&gt;GTBO&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, at least their failure is Ideal!  That counts for something......right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pasadena-is-going-to-do-it-this-time-really/#comment-136672">GTBO</a>.</p>
<p>Well, at least their failure is Ideal!  That counts for something&#8230;&#8230;right?</p>
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