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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-31159</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30917&quot;&gt;FOTF2012&lt;/a&gt;.

FOTF2012

&quot;Unfortunately, I am of the opinion that DM probably learned well at the feet of his master, LRH. Perhaps DM is the EP of Scientology.&quot;

You state your case very clearly on why DM is completely unhinged and a raving sociopath. Why then assign his condition to LRH? One has nothing to do with the other. 

I once spent time in a Catholic school and as a six-year old watched nuns grab small boys by their hair and bang their heads against the blackboard - because they talked. Or rubbed used chewing gum into their scalps, because they were chewing it in class. Psychotic? Sociopaths? Or were they simply poorly taught by the Pope, and merely manifesting the EP of Catholicism?

Your conclusions appear to be borne out of prejudice and not direct observation. Once again ... was LRH perfect? No. Did he ever make mistakes, some very big ones? Yes. Did he fail to correct  problems that he put into motion? Yes, again. But does all of this erase proven benefits through his technology? No.

Observation and analysis takes time, effort and immersion into a subject and the willingness to be as wrong as you are right.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30917">FOTF2012</a>.</p>
<p>FOTF2012</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, I am of the opinion that DM probably learned well at the feet of his master, LRH. Perhaps DM is the EP of Scientology.&#8221;</p>
<p>You state your case very clearly on why DM is completely unhinged and a raving sociopath. Why then assign his condition to LRH? One has nothing to do with the other. </p>
<p>I once spent time in a Catholic school and as a six-year old watched nuns grab small boys by their hair and bang their heads against the blackboard &#8211; because they talked. Or rubbed used chewing gum into their scalps, because they were chewing it in class. Psychotic? Sociopaths? Or were they simply poorly taught by the Pope, and merely manifesting the EP of Catholicism?</p>
<p>Your conclusions appear to be borne out of prejudice and not direct observation. Once again &#8230; was LRH perfect? No. Did he ever make mistakes, some very big ones? Yes. Did he fail to correct  problems that he put into motion? Yes, again. But does all of this erase proven benefits through his technology? No.</p>
<p>Observation and analysis takes time, effort and immersion into a subject and the willingness to be as wrong as you are right.</p>
<p>Odd</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-31119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30980&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, you can&#039;t make this stuff up!  It shows in spades that Der Midget micro manages every aspect of the church and thus he did have dealings in TX when he hired those PI&#039;s and spys and ordered the Squirrel Busters to harrass Marty and Mosey, and thus Der Midget should and must be made to take the witness stand and give his deposition in person in Comel County Courthouse.  YOu rock, Mike!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30980">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, you can&#8217;t make this stuff up!  It shows in spades that Der Midget micro manages every aspect of the church and thus he did have dealings in TX when he hired those PI&#8217;s and spys and ordered the Squirrel Busters to harrass Marty and Mosey, and thus Der Midget should and must be made to take the witness stand and give his deposition in person in Comel County Courthouse.  YOu rock, Mike!!!!!</p>
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		By: Sejanus		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-31075</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 04:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, I think you are a stand up guy.
Thanks for getting involved in the Texas case and helping bury TD and DM.
I get the impression that 2014 is the end for the Dwarf Maniac.

I was wondering, was TD as big an arrogant little snot as he comes across?
Reading him trying to out manouvre Ray in the deposition was awesome. 
Evidently perjury is unknown to the twerp.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I think you are a stand up guy.<br />
Thanks for getting involved in the Texas case and helping bury TD and DM.<br />
I get the impression that 2014 is the end for the Dwarf Maniac.</p>
<p>I was wondering, was TD as big an arrogant little snot as he comes across?<br />
Reading him trying to out manouvre Ray in the deposition was awesome.<br />
Evidently perjury is unknown to the twerp.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-31055</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 00:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30905&quot;&gt;Cooper Kessel&lt;/a&gt;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30905">Cooper Kessel</a>.</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Sophia13		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-31043</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 22:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30989&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

You could also point out to her that LRH wrote &#038; directed a training film on the subject of TR&#039;s to demonstrate to students what standard TR&#039;s would look and sound like.  This film represented L. Ron Hubbard&#039;s concept of standard TR&#039;s.

Then at some point, DM stopped using LRH&#039;s TR film and replaced it.  Only a squirrel SP would do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30989">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>You could also point out to her that LRH wrote &amp; directed a training film on the subject of TR&#8217;s to demonstrate to students what standard TR&#8217;s would look and sound like.  This film represented L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s concept of standard TR&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Then at some point, DM stopped using LRH&#8217;s TR film and replaced it.  Only a squirrel SP would do that.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 21:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30992&quot;&gt;Lordburg12&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes you hit the nail on the head Emelie.  Confusion!  I think the courts helped them apply the condition cuz I heard their Non-Scn staff sued them for all this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30992">Lordburg12</a>.</p>
<p>Yes you hit the nail on the head Emelie.  Confusion!  I think the courts helped them apply the condition cuz I heard their Non-Scn staff sued them for all this.</p>
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		By: James Glass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-31037</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 21:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30914&quot;&gt;jgg2012&lt;/a&gt;.

jgg2012, the orgs are not in decline, but in disaster.  This is due to nothing else but DM&#039;s attention to the day-to-day affairs of the &quot;Church&quot;. DM&#039;s vision is to wipe out, totally, anything having to do with Hubbard. DM wants his signature on every single piece of official paper, nothing more, nothing less.

DM is the psychopath in charge, and his &quot;efforts&quot; and &quot;overseeing the Church&quot; have destroyed Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30914">jgg2012</a>.</p>
<p>jgg2012, the orgs are not in decline, but in disaster.  This is due to nothing else but DM&#8217;s attention to the day-to-day affairs of the &#8220;Church&#8221;. DM&#8217;s vision is to wipe out, totally, anything having to do with Hubbard. DM wants his signature on every single piece of official paper, nothing more, nothing less.</p>
<p>DM is the psychopath in charge, and his &#8220;efforts&#8221; and &#8220;overseeing the Church&#8221; have destroyed Scientology.</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 21:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30998&quot;&gt;Tory Christman&lt;/a&gt;.

I forgot to say &quot;Old Town&quot; Pasadena. I asked, &quot;By their Ideal Morgue?&quot; She said no...they were out on Colorado street, pitching their &quot;Free Stress Test&quot;. She knew enough to know this IS a con, and had the courage to speak up. As she told me later, their own actions proved what she was saying was correct. (I used to say that to OSA, years ago when &quot;in&quot;: &quot;YOU are C R E A T I N G your own enemies by these creepy actions&quot; --when they wanted me to picket Mark Bunker&#039;s home with lies about him. I said &quot;no way&quot;. Dan Murnan did---and his photo was up on Mark&#039;s site, for years. Love to ALL here, and Happy New Year!! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30998">Tory Christman</a>.</p>
<p>I forgot to say &#8220;Old Town&#8221; Pasadena. I asked, &#8220;By their Ideal Morgue?&#8221; She said no&#8230;they were out on Colorado street, pitching their &#8220;Free Stress Test&#8221;. She knew enough to know this IS a con, and had the courage to speak up. As she told me later, their own actions proved what she was saying was correct. (I used to say that to OSA, years ago when &#8220;in&#8221;: &#8220;YOU are C R E A T I N G your own enemies by these creepy actions&#8221; &#8211;when they wanted me to picket Mark Bunker&#8217;s home with lies about him. I said &#8220;no way&#8221;. Dan Murnan did&#8212;and his photo was up on Mark&#8217;s site, for years. Love to ALL here, and Happy New Year!! 🙂</p>
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		By: Richard Roberts		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-31035</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 21:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30859&quot;&gt;Draco&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike,

You are fast becoming the biggest threat to DM&#039;s leadership. That you had these and made them available is the biggest expose of the insanity that is DM yet. Thank you. This is an insight that cannot but make a lasting impression. I can&#039;t wait for the next episode in this case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-30859">Draco</a>.</p>
<p>Mike,</p>
<p>You are fast becoming the biggest threat to DM&#8217;s leadership. That you had these and made them available is the biggest expose of the insanity that is DM yet. Thank you. This is an insight that cannot but make a lasting impression. I can&#8217;t wait for the next episode in this case.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pathetic-in-pasadena/#comment-31033</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan351,

You make a lot of sense and you sound like a very nice person.  When I used to take calls from the orgs, I used to do the same thing; ask people what they are doing on the Bridge.  I would hear all sorts of answers but mostly not a whole heck of a lot.  I would two way comm this with people if they were open to talk about it and I would enjoy that too.

My favorite way I would get staff off my back whenever they said that doing such and such was &quot;Command Intention&quot;, I would tell them that &quot;David Miscavige does not live my dynamics, I do.&quot;  &quot;Therefore, making my own decisions about what I&#039;m doing on the Bridge, or going to do is up to me&quot;. 
If prodded, I would then tell them that &quot;I am not going to defend myself here, to you.&quot;  That always worked!

Sometimes, I would hear an audible GASP over the phone whenever I said &quot;David Miscavige doesn&#039;t live my dynamics, I do&quot;.  Almost always, that person would end the conversation as quickly as possible and never call me back again. May not sound very nice, but that one was reserved for the hard-core, you must follow Command Intention, antogonistic types.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan351,</p>
<p>You make a lot of sense and you sound like a very nice person.  When I used to take calls from the orgs, I used to do the same thing; ask people what they are doing on the Bridge.  I would hear all sorts of answers but mostly not a whole heck of a lot.  I would two way comm this with people if they were open to talk about it and I would enjoy that too.</p>
<p>My favorite way I would get staff off my back whenever they said that doing such and such was &#8220;Command Intention&#8221;, I would tell them that &#8220;David Miscavige does not live my dynamics, I do.&#8221;  &#8220;Therefore, making my own decisions about what I&#8217;m doing on the Bridge, or going to do is up to me&#8221;.<br />
If prodded, I would then tell them that &#8220;I am not going to defend myself here, to you.&#8221;  That always worked!</p>
<p>Sometimes, I would hear an audible GASP over the phone whenever I said &#8220;David Miscavige doesn&#8217;t live my dynamics, I do&#8221;.  Almost always, that person would end the conversation as quickly as possible and never call me back again. May not sound very nice, but that one was reserved for the hard-core, you must follow Command Intention, antogonistic types.</p>
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