Comments on: Platitudes, Bad Attitudes and Mother Issues

By: T-Marie

T-Marie — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:53:14 +0000

In reply to Richard.

Richard, thanks for the reminder. I followed his blog back then. Here’s an important post on the subject, in case anyone wants to read it:
https://markrathbun.blog/2013/12/20/deconstructing-scientology/

By: T-Marie

T-Marie — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 02:23:28 +0000

In reply to Richard. Hi Richard. Glad you saw that. I agree, an understanding of invalidation is definitely valuable. :)

By: Jaye R

Jaye R — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:01:57 +0000

TC, this was a great quote to pick for your weekly communique. I resonate with what many of the comments made. I, too, from the very beginning of my study of the Staff Statuses with star rate checkouts (and being a green $cilon with no study tech yet) made me think I just didn’t get it. Throughout my history, I thought something was wrong with me… maybe I had a major study bug. Yet, while possessing a high IQ, I had no problems studying and duplicating anything else I chose to study.

Thank goodness, I finally realized the gobbledygook was the problem and not me!

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:49:04 +0000

In reply to T-Marie.

Hi T-Marie – I’m here – lol – a brief reply on a back topic.

I was thinking about kids in internet chat sessions. The concept of bullying has been getting discussion. A conceptual understanding of invalidation and, as you say, judging would help a kid being bullied to have some mental defense and understanding of what was going on. Also as you say, evaluation in the scn sense is telling a person what to think about his or her case in session which would be fuzzy in the internet example. Good for you on providing guidance for your girls!

By: Alice Graves

Alice Graves — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:52:15 +0000

I had a couple of belly laughs reading this posting and some of the responses. Mainly because of how we human beings still contort ourselves into such agonizing positions, forever trying to find out the “right” way to be, have the “correct” view of the universe. I’ve come to see these efforts as the greatest tyranny ever imposed on anyone.

How about if we can just be who we are, feel what we feel and not have to explain it to anyone? Not have to show up in any particular way to ourselves or others – just show up the way we are in any given moment. It’s a radical thing to do. It may lose you friends and associates, but it will get you you.

By: Artoo45

Artoo45 — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 14:26:30 +0000

In reply to John Doe. "Light year kilotons per microsecond." Hilarious, and indicative of the fact that he just made shit up on the fly from scraps of science he'd skimmed in the newspaper. It's why those without a deep understanding of science think he was "brilliant."

By: T-Marie

T-Marie — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:49:34 +0000

Man-oh-man, this post has dredged up some (correct) emotions for me. I’m just going to reiterate this little gem here:
“He can control anything for which he has accepted the full responsibility. He is unable to control that for which he has not accepted responsibility.” Bullfukinshit!
LRH isn’t the only one spouting out this lie though. There are a ton of platitudes out there today about control. Think the right thoughts and exactly what you think appears. Umhum, and what about all those things that appear that you didn’t think of? Confirmation bias.
If you want to take that quote down to the most introverted level, self, yeah, maybe. If I don’t accept responsibility for the fact that I’m eating pizzas and nachos and a bucket of ice cream every couple of days, I’m definitely going to lose control of my weight, pants size and health. Any further than say, the tip of the nose, isn’t going to be controlled by taking responsibility for it. You can take responsibility all you want or possibly can to drive safely, maintain your vehicle, etc., but you won’t have an ounce of control over the guy who slams into you.
What gobbledygook!

By: T-Marie

T-Marie — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:27:13 +0000

In reply to Richard.

Richard, you may never see this. I agree somewhat, but I’ve found there are words that already existed that define these things. “Evaluation” is a sticky one for me. Although I understand the concept of LRH’s definition, it just doesn’t fit into everyday life using that particular word, IMO, of course. Understanding the concept of “evaluation” by LRH’s definition could be beneficial. I taught my girls that concept using the word “judge” – as in your friends may judge your actions or your thoughts or your decisions, but they’re not living your life or walking in your shoes, so they don’t fully understand, so take their judgment with a grain of salt. Stuff like that. The judgment, of course, comes after the evaluation (by LRH’s definition) but nobody on earth that’s not be in the slurch uses “evaluation” that way.

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 02:27:17 +0000

In reply to Terra Cognita.

Thanks Terra – False data stripping wasn’t a scn concept I carried forward in my mind which needed unscrambling although there were certainly a few others! Maybe sometime Mike will add Terra Cognita to his categories list.

I only started reexamining my scn experience of almost 40 years ago after watching Going Clear. I found reading Mark Rathbun’s “Deconstructing Scientology” series of posts covered many of the technical aspects of scn and brought up several un-examined concepts I had carried forward. Your essays do likewise. Thanks for your good work.

By: Terra Cognita

Terra Cognita — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 23:38:34 +0000

In reply to secretfornow. BBQ? Anytime!