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		By: iamvalkov		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70792</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 06:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70775&quot;&gt;peggy2176il&lt;/a&gt;.

I suggest picking up a couple of books cheap through Amazon/Ebay - Self-Analysis and The Handbook for Preclears,  for a good overview of what it is basically about.  Forget all the stuff about &quot;religion&quot;, cult, etc.  Just look at some of the basic materials that outline where Hubbard was coming from.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70775">peggy2176il</a>.</p>
<p>I suggest picking up a couple of books cheap through Amazon/Ebay &#8211; Self-Analysis and The Handbook for Preclears,  for a good overview of what it is basically about.  Forget all the stuff about &#8220;religion&#8221;, cult, etc.  Just look at some of the basic materials that outline where Hubbard was coming from.</p>
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		By: iamvalkov		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70786</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 00:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70704&quot;&gt;sheila&lt;/a&gt;.

To make a long story short,  I guess I was lucky to be dealing with old-timers at my local org, I had known since the 1980s,  and I had a medical condition which meant I was not likely to ever be able to use the money I had on account.
I did first talk to one of the KOTs(Keepers of the Tech) at Flag,  th eolder one there,  because I thought my money was there,  but it turned out it had just been a &quot;courtesy transfer&quot; (no money actually sent from the local org).  I started out coming on strong saying I would write a complaint to the BBB etc,  which he clearly didn&#039;t want me to do,  but once it became clear the money was still with the local org he just directed me to deal with them.  They returned it promptly.  But I must say,  Flag had already tapped me for a set of the Basics out of it!
Jerks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70704">sheila</a>.</p>
<p>To make a long story short,  I guess I was lucky to be dealing with old-timers at my local org, I had known since the 1980s,  and I had a medical condition which meant I was not likely to ever be able to use the money I had on account.<br />
I did first talk to one of the KOTs(Keepers of the Tech) at Flag,  th eolder one there,  because I thought my money was there,  but it turned out it had just been a &#8220;courtesy transfer&#8221; (no money actually sent from the local org).  I started out coming on strong saying I would write a complaint to the BBB etc,  which he clearly didn&#8217;t want me to do,  but once it became clear the money was still with the local org he just directed me to deal with them.  They returned it promptly.  But I must say,  Flag had already tapped me for a set of the Basics out of it!<br />
Jerks.</p>
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		By: peggy2176il		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70775</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 19:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let us remember on this day, those who sacrificed and died.

I have a few questions that maybe ya&#039;ll can help me with. I am not a Scientologist, but am curious.  I did read Dianetics in college, (years ago) and now have some poor child, whose name I forgot, sending me letters, emails and requests to buy this thing or that thing, and asking about my wins, gains....etc.  Anyway I told this poor soul that I would file a Harassment Complaint if the Detroit Org did not leave me alone, but I digress.  
How can your leader lead when he doth not practice his religion?  Is he not a Heretic? And how or who does he have in high places because of all the illegal activities he orders committed, (in his name).  The Mob did not have it this good, nor the KKK, or any other cults.  Who protects this man?

Still interested in learning more about Scientology, but do not wish to be inundated with the traditional garbage that goes along with trying to learn about this religion.  Suggestions as to what to read, or anything?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us remember on this day, those who sacrificed and died.</p>
<p>I have a few questions that maybe ya&#8217;ll can help me with. I am not a Scientologist, but am curious.  I did read Dianetics in college, (years ago) and now have some poor child, whose name I forgot, sending me letters, emails and requests to buy this thing or that thing, and asking about my wins, gains&#8230;.etc.  Anyway I told this poor soul that I would file a Harassment Complaint if the Detroit Org did not leave me alone, but I digress.<br />
How can your leader lead when he doth not practice his religion?  Is he not a Heretic? And how or who does he have in high places because of all the illegal activities he orders committed, (in his name).  The Mob did not have it this good, nor the KKK, or any other cults.  Who protects this man?</p>
<p>Still interested in learning more about Scientology, but do not wish to be inundated with the traditional garbage that goes along with trying to learn about this religion.  Suggestions as to what to read, or anything?</p>
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		By: peggy2176il		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70769</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 18:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gee Guys didn&#039;t you know, they all went to Target 2 and are waiting for the rest of the beings to join them.  You see COB and little COB(TC) are trying to coordinate the time table.......................................................see ya on the other side:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Guys didn&#8217;t you know, they all went to Target 2 and are waiting for the rest of the beings to join them.  You see COB and little COB(TC) are trying to coordinate the time table&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.see ya on the other side:)</p>
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		By: Michael Mallen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70747&quot;&gt;Sindy Sloan Fagen&lt;/a&gt;.

Emma Lazurus could have well written this for Sea Org members: 

&quot;Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70747">Sindy Sloan Fagen</a>.</p>
<p>Emma Lazurus could have well written this for Sea Org members: </p>
<p>&#8220;Give me your tired, your poor,</p>
<p>Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,</p>
<p>The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.</p>
<p>Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,</p>
<p>I lift my lamp beside the golden door!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Michael Mallen		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70753</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Mallen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70739&quot;&gt;JennyInTheHole (@JennyAtLAX)&lt;/a&gt;.

Birds do it, bees do it
Even educated fleas do it
Let&#039;s do it, let&#039;s fall in love]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70739">JennyInTheHole (@JennyAtLAX)</a>.</p>
<p>Birds do it, bees do it<br />
Even educated fleas do it<br />
Let&#8217;s do it, let&#8217;s fall in love</p>
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		By: Sam Freeman		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70749</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70745&quot;&gt;Sam Freeman&lt;/a&gt;.

...&quot;More than 1,500 guests from as far as Japan, Australia and the United States descended upon the Church of Scientology&#039;s UK headquarters at Saint Hill for the 17th annual gala charity concert on Sunday - and to mark the 30th anninversary of the International Association of Scientologists&quot; - Grahame Wison - Cult PR UK 
Read more: http://www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/pictures/PHOTOS-Scientology-party-attended-Bart-Simpson/pictures-23344688-detail/pictures.html#ixzz3LE1tRxry 
Follow us: @eg_Courier on Twitter &#124; eastgrinstead on Facebook.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70745">Sam Freeman</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8221;More than 1,500 guests from as far as Japan, Australia and the United States descended upon the Church of Scientology&#8217;s UK headquarters at Saint Hill for the 17th annual gala charity concert on Sunday &#8211; and to mark the 30th anninversary of the International Association of Scientologists&#8221; &#8211; Grahame Wison &#8211; Cult PR UK<br />
Read more: <a href="http://www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/pictures/PHOTOS-Scientology-party-attended-Bart-Simpson/pictures-23344688-detail/pictures.html#ixzz3LE1tRxry" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/pictures/PHOTOS-Scientology-party-attended-Bart-Simpson/pictures-23344688-detail/pictures.html#ixzz3LE1tRxry</a><br />
Follow us: @eg_Courier on Twitter | eastgrinstead on Facebook.</p>
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		By: Sindy Sloan Fagen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70661&quot;&gt;SadStateofAffairs&lt;/a&gt;.

As far back as I can remember, all staff were awarded free Annual memberships (while at the same time continuously urged to pay for Lifetime memberships). So this brings up a good point. Even staff are being counted in the membership numbers and, of course, that makes sense as they are members but come on it hardly represents the teeming masses, yearning to go free with Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70661">SadStateofAffairs</a>.</p>
<p>As far back as I can remember, all staff were awarded free Annual memberships (while at the same time continuously urged to pay for Lifetime memberships). So this brings up a good point. Even staff are being counted in the membership numbers and, of course, that makes sense as they are members but come on it hardly represents the teeming masses, yearning to go free with Scientology.</p>
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		By: Sam Freeman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually per the report in the East Grinstead Courier courtesy of UK OSA spokesman Grahame Wilson the UK IAS attendance was &#039;over 1500&#039; from which we can extrapolate that the figure was less than 2000 and closer to 1500. At the current rate of &#039;expansion&#039; if there is another IAS event next year we can pretty much estimate that the attendance figures will  &#039;be over 500&#039; - assuming the cult lasts that long.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually per the report in the East Grinstead Courier courtesy of UK OSA spokesman Grahame Wilson the UK IAS attendance was &#8216;over 1500&#8217; from which we can extrapolate that the figure was less than 2000 and closer to 1500. At the current rate of &#8216;expansion&#8217; if there is another IAS event next year we can pretty much estimate that the attendance figures will  &#8216;be over 500&#8217; &#8211; assuming the cult lasts that long.</p>
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		By: Michael Mallen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Mallen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70737&quot;&gt;Doug Parent&lt;/a&gt;.

Miscavige&#039;s ethics presence is an oxymoron.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/pleeeeeease-come-back/#comment-70737">Doug Parent</a>.</p>
<p>Miscavige&#8217;s ethics presence is an oxymoron.</p>
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