Yes Mike Silverman was Ruthie Silverman’s husband. When he got declared they had to divorce. He got declared for “financial irregularities.” A generality. But back then you could actually read the specifics on the goldenrod which was posted. Nowadays, there is nothing posted and it’s all generalities and lies. Back in the day he cooked up a scheme where we were told to go to our grand parents or parents and ask them to put a second mortgage on the house to get money out of it and to loan us that money or give it to us, and we would buy Bridge with it. He piled a ton of us into the Lebanon Hall next to ASHO for this gem. I guess management found out and squashed that one. But what a PR disaster for the church if one of those refi’s had gone south and the angry family might have gone to the press and flapped. Anyone know what happened to Michael Silvrman?

Also what happened to Ivan Obalensky? Was the stuff we heard about him at AO true? What was the truth? And what is Ivan doing these days?

I agree Evaine. What is needed is forensic accounting. That is where some agency like the FBI or something comes in and they can get the computers and reconstruct stuff and find stuff on it to get the paper trail going. I’m hoping that the recept arrest of Devon, the head of PR at CC Las Vegas and the child molester cohort in crime will bring attention to DM and the church so that maybe the FBI or CIA investigate Davie and then order forensic accounting to be done. Once the proof of lining his pockets is there, BAM! The house of cards comes down.

…and I have a friend who is clamoring to re-do his objectives as an OT instead of just moving up to their next OT level. “People are having incredible wins!” head shaking.

Is he Ruthie’s ex husband?
Yes, the OTs seemed more OT to me too.

Thanks to you too, Hallie!
Some people might think it’s too whimpy or too low of a gradient but I remember well how Ron told that boy on the ship that his mother had gone to hospital and died. He DIDN’T tell him but gave him enough clues and information that the young man figured it out on his own, therefore preventing the shock of his mom’s death.
If Ron had walked in and said, “Sorry son, you’re mom’s dead,” the young man wouldn’t have been ready to receive that comm but, giving it to him in little pieces he COULD have, by the time he figured it out, he could have that too.
In talking to people who are still in, I’m finding that that is the way to do it. Then, when THEY have the cognition, it’s THEIR idea so you’re not the big, bad enturbulator and they appreciate that you showed them what they should have known.
I would welcome any other suggestions or successful actions.

Thanks so much, Jane Doe!
Yes, the way to win is insouciance! Out-spirit-of-play them.
I LOVED your friend’s response to the sputtering, more than likely 16 year old. “Dis an SO member with LRH policy?? GO TO ETHICS NOW!!”
Ha. I remember when a negative report was written on me when I reported to the RTC that there was a change in the wording of SOS. When the MAA told me about the report, in a way that made me feel that this was a suspicious action by me, I said, “Well, that’s what we’re supposed to do, right? Report out-tech?” haha. she got a little bit of a deer in the headlights look and put the report down.

+1 JD

I would like to know what happened to him as well and what he was declared for. I know there was a lot of illegal reg stuff going on back then, like Scientologist loaning money to others at super loan shark prices etc. I know he was at my Org in SFO for awhile, and then I worked with him for a day at AOLA while waiting for my auditing. I personally liked what I knew of him because he was very OT in terms of ability. He was one of the few people I could ‘talk’ with all day telepathically. The Ots I knew then seemed to have more wattage by the way. Makes me wonder.

I was remembering the same thing.” Buy now before the increase” was used when I was on staff and it was used by LRH, but once again, DM takes it to a ‘whole new level’ as he is known for saying…or something close to that. LRH’s method was at least a gradient approach and everyone was informed. I can at least give him that much. But DM always has to be so ‘straight up’ and “over the top” with his perversions of everything! And for Smith is being extremely ethical by giving his inner circle fsms the hidden yet to be released info.