The dodo bird verdict and the placebo effect. Many psychologists argue that a placebo effect is essentially all any talk therapy can deliver.

Scientology’s placebo is potentially more potent as there is a religious component that pcs also buy into to varying degrees.

In a way, yes, but the placebo effect is complicated. There’s a good explanation and lots of links to other information on RationalWiki: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Placebo_effect

Still, correlation is not causation. If you have an MS degree you understand that.

And I’m still waiting for the citations LRH gave. Give proof of what you state please.

Asking for evidence can’t be rude. Ever.

I wrote what I thought was a helpful article, supplying all the necessary data I could find. I am transparent about my background, so delving the internet for info on my background to discredit me in some manner sounds antagonistic. Please, I don’t wish to discuss this any further.

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I tried other remedies prior to the auditing that did nothing. Basically you’re saying it’s like a placebo effect?

That was rude. I know very well how science works. I have a MS degree. You’re missing my point entirely. I don’t think he pulled everything out of his behind. Hubbard read books on psychology and hypnosis…
If you study those subjects, you’d see similarities here and there which the author here does mention.

Correlation is not causation. It may be true that you got cured from some issue while auditing, but you would e.g. need to prove being cured was not the result of some other thing happening at the same time.

AFAIK Hubbard pulled anything he wrote out of his behind. Would love to see what citation he gave to find out if those case studies really happened. But even if they actually happened, it wouldn’t be enough. There’s a reason a lot of the medical studies are about high numbers of people (up to even thousands).

You might want to read something about how science works.

Our bodies and minds have a remarkable ability to heal themselves.

This is a major way that “miracle cures” become (and stay) popular: you’re sick, you take a magic pill, and then you get better. You would have gotten better anyway, but you attribute it to the pill.

You can’t KNOW that the pill (or, in your case, the auditing) gave you that result unless you do a double-blind study of many people against a control group. On the rare occasions these studies are done (rare because scientists would prefer to use their hard-won funding for real science), they almost never show any meaningful results.

Hey SP@pdx. You and anyone else in Portland metro area are certainly invited to attend the x scn support group April 8 at 11 am located at grace church on 12th. You can find more about it at “Safe Portland” website.