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		By: GL		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 02:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The amount of cash expended by $camatology will almost inevitably increase the thickness level of the bullshit spewed by the &quot;scholars&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of cash expended by $camatology will almost inevitably increase the thickness level of the bullshit spewed by the &#8220;scholars&#8221;.</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2024 13:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no religious freedom for indie scientologists - who are spied upon, stalked and harassed by church-sanctioned &quot;squirrel busters.&quot;

There is no freedom from religion, when ex-members are forced by US courts to submit to the church&#039;s religious arbitration rituals.

There is no freedom from religion, when whistleblowers are subject to constant surveillance and harassment by the church&#039;s Office of Special Affairs and affiliated goon squads.

The US already considers the church’s institutional &quot;religious rights&quot; to be senior to the individual rights of both current and former members. Europe is clearly the next target.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no religious freedom for indie scientologists &#8211; who are spied upon, stalked and harassed by church-sanctioned &#8220;squirrel busters.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no freedom from religion, when ex-members are forced by US courts to submit to the church&#8217;s religious arbitration rituals.</p>
<p>There is no freedom from religion, when whistleblowers are subject to constant surveillance and harassment by the church&#8217;s Office of Special Affairs and affiliated goon squads.</p>
<p>The US already considers the church’s institutional &#8220;religious rights&#8221; to be senior to the individual rights of both current and former members. Europe is clearly the next target.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2024 06:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The automatic corollary to Freedom Of Your Religion is Freedom From Your Religion. Some people don&#039;t understand this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The automatic corollary to Freedom Of Your Religion is Freedom From Your Religion. Some people don&#8217;t understand this.</p>
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		By: unelectedfloofgoofer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2024 12:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course not a peep about all the horrible abuses by the cult. And they made sure to post nothing interesting about whatever they did discuss either. Just meaningless image posturing to anesthetize and control the mainstream media.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course not a peep about all the horrible abuses by the cult. And they made sure to post nothing interesting about whatever they did discuss either. Just meaningless image posturing to anesthetize and control the mainstream media.</p>
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		By: Karen de la Carriere		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2024 03:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I made a video with Derek of Mythvision Podcast on this very topic  which supplements the info on this blog.
Title:
The Hired guns of Scientology Academic and &quot;experts&quot; paid good money to puff and influence

The Scientology cult hires academics and religious experts to write flowery praiseworthy papers to legitimize them.  
These are hired guns for propaganda. They are trying  to influence legislators and the law courts to favor Scientology and other cults
 
Timestamps:
1:00 Massimo Introvigne, a lawyer and &quot;academic&quot;  who is paid to write Scientology propaganda puffing about the goodness and credibility of the cult.    $$$$$$$$$$$$$
1:30 Massimo and others have learned to make good money working for cults and appearang as Expert Witnesses in Court on their religiosity
3:00 It is a HIGH  crime which could lead to excommunication for reporting crimes to Law enforcement..  It is in their doctrines.  And they are currently denying it in recent law suits.   Laughter.
3:40 Massimo has written over 70 essays raising the cult without ever getting into the kidnaps, held against will issues, done even to this day
(These apologists try to delete the word CULT and replace it with &quot;New Religious Movement&quot;
More to learn on Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Vco0pY_jo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a video with Derek of Mythvision Podcast on this very topic  which supplements the info on this blog.<br />
Title:<br />
The Hired guns of Scientology Academic and &#8220;experts&#8221; paid good money to puff and influence</p>
<p>The Scientology cult hires academics and religious experts to write flowery praiseworthy papers to legitimize them.<br />
These are hired guns for propaganda. They are trying  to influence legislators and the law courts to favor Scientology and other cults</p>
<p>Timestamps:<br />
1:00 Massimo Introvigne, a lawyer and &#8220;academic&#8221;  who is paid to write Scientology propaganda puffing about the goodness and credibility of the cult.    $$$$$$$$$$$$$<br />
1:30 Massimo and others have learned to make good money working for cults and appearang as Expert Witnesses in Court on their religiosity<br />
3:00 It is a HIGH  crime which could lead to excommunication for reporting crimes to Law enforcement..  It is in their doctrines.  And they are currently denying it in recent law suits.   Laughter.<br />
3:40 Massimo has written over 70 essays raising the cult without ever getting into the kidnaps, held against will issues, done even to this day<br />
(These apologists try to delete the word CULT and replace it with &#8220;New Religious Movement&#8221;<br />
More to learn on Video:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Vco0pY_jo" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Vco0pY_jo</a></p>
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		By: Scooter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2024 23:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Desperate kult is desperate.

As they circle the drain for the last time before going down the plughole, they yell loudly about how they are leading the way into a brighter future for all of Mankind.

Yeah right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desperate kult is desperate.</p>
<p>As they circle the drain for the last time before going down the plughole, they yell loudly about how they are leading the way into a brighter future for all of Mankind.</p>
<p>Yeah right.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2024 18:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It could only have been done in Rome. 
After the Milan case in the 80s and 90s, Osa Italy and its helpers structured a network of scholars and people of other faiths, who over time became great &#039;allies&#039;, first in Italy and then abroad. 
Osa Italy is the strongest and most structured in Europe.

In reality, scientology couldn&#039;t care less about how other faiths are treated in nations where the cult doesn&#039;t exist. 
What concerns them is what is happening in Europe about scn  and the current Italian government (considered by many quite fascistic oriented), so they are taking preemptive measures.

In my opinion, it doesn&#039;t require further elaborate interpretations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could only have been done in Rome.<br />
After the Milan case in the 80s and 90s, Osa Italy and its helpers structured a network of scholars and people of other faiths, who over time became great &#8216;allies&#8217;, first in Italy and then abroad.<br />
Osa Italy is the strongest and most structured in Europe.</p>
<p>In reality, scientology couldn&#8217;t care less about how other faiths are treated in nations where the cult doesn&#8217;t exist.<br />
What concerns them is what is happening in Europe about scn  and the current Italian government (considered by many quite fascistic oriented), so they are taking preemptive measures.</p>
<p>In my opinion, it doesn&#8217;t require further elaborate interpretations.</p>
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		By: Todd Cray		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2024 18:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Considering that scientology was hosting this event, the &quot;journalist&quot; may want to be careful with bringing up a couple of subjects:

&quot;In totalitarian and authoritarian countries, religious groups and individual believers literally struggle for their lives, which is the indispensable precondition to enjoy the first political human right, i.e., religious liberty.&quot;

And what about totalitarian and authoritarian &quot;religions&quot;/ cults? Do folks &quot;struggle for their lives&quot; in these? Are their liberties infringed upon to the point where they have to escape and will not even be left in peace after they do? Is their &quot;religious liberty&quot; to opt in or out of a religion respected?

It&#039;s equally curious that when discussing the history of their meeting location, the writer failed to see the irony in the following: &quot;A number of controversial scandals hit the Congregation in the late 20th century, drastically reducing its numbers and vocations, until in 1997 its Generalate in Rome was closed.&quot; Does he really want to go there when the current occupant of the building is typically referred to as &quot;scientology, the controversial religion&quot;? And speaking of drastically reduced numbers...

But the &quot;journalist&quot; needn&#039;t worry. His myopic focus on the building, his appeal to the authority of the incredible experts coopted and his almost complete avoidance of mentioning what they were actually doing at the event (if anything) should give him plausible deniability that he even wrote this article himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that scientology was hosting this event, the &#8220;journalist&#8221; may want to be careful with bringing up a couple of subjects:</p>
<p>&#8220;In totalitarian and authoritarian countries, religious groups and individual believers literally struggle for their lives, which is the indispensable precondition to enjoy the first political human right, i.e., religious liberty.&#8221;</p>
<p>And what about totalitarian and authoritarian &#8220;religions&#8221;/ cults? Do folks &#8220;struggle for their lives&#8221; in these? Are their liberties infringed upon to the point where they have to escape and will not even be left in peace after they do? Is their &#8220;religious liberty&#8221; to opt in or out of a religion respected?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s equally curious that when discussing the history of their meeting location, the writer failed to see the irony in the following: &#8220;A number of controversial scandals hit the Congregation in the late 20th century, drastically reducing its numbers and vocations, until in 1997 its Generalate in Rome was closed.&#8221; Does he really want to go there when the current occupant of the building is typically referred to as &#8220;scientology, the controversial religion&#8221;? And speaking of drastically reduced numbers&#8230;</p>
<p>But the &#8220;journalist&#8221; needn&#8217;t worry. His myopic focus on the building, his appeal to the authority of the incredible experts coopted and his almost complete avoidance of mentioning what they were actually doing at the event (if anything) should give him plausible deniability that he even wrote this article himself.</p>
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		By: Denny Owen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2024 15:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Research: &quot;Should States Control Religious Liberty? A Conference in Rome.&quot;
NOT MENTIONED IN ANY MAINSTREAM NEWS SOURCE.

A Google search:
https://novus2.com/righteouscause/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Conference-via-Google.png

The fact remains that Scientology’s world influence never makes its appearance on any mainstream media news sites … it is purely manufactured as “Public Relations” like everything else created within the world of Scientology, from its bogus “Freedom Magazine” to “Stand League” to “Narconon” to “Youth for Human Rights International” or any of its other hundreds of insidious front groups.

&quot;Press Releases&quot; usually come from the source, EIN Presswire (here&#039;s a sample of how they favor Scientology):
https://tinyurl.com/44ttxd4s

Another interesting observation can be made from the BitterWinterMagazine X/Twitter account ... here&#039;s a screen shot of their post announcing the &quot;Conference&quot; yesterday: 5 &quot;Likes,&quot; 3 &quot;Retweets,&quot; and 1 comment (a real barn burner):
https://novus2.com/righteouscause/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/BitterWinter.png

Any mention of a Scientology &quot;Rome Conference May 30, 2024&quot; ANYWHERE? Not that Google knows about:
https://tinyurl.com/4yscns28

And since the entire network of Scientology &quot;news&quot; organizations is so disjointed and poorly run, not even the &quot;European Office Church of Scientology for Public Affairs and Human Rights&quot; has mention of the conference on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/scientologyeurope/

Or on the European Office main website:
https://www.europeanaffairs.eu/

Nope.

How about Scientology Europe&#039;s Twitter account?
https://x.com/ScientologyEU

Nope.

Stand League Newsroom?
https://www.standleague.org/newsroom/news/

Nope.

That&#039;s all the time I have for this. The point has been made.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Research: &#8220;Should States Control Religious Liberty? A Conference in Rome.&#8221;<br />
NOT MENTIONED IN ANY MAINSTREAM NEWS SOURCE.</p>
<p>A Google search:<br />
<a href="https://novus2.com/righteouscause/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Conference-via-Google.png" rel="nofollow ugc">https://novus2.com/righteouscause/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Conference-via-Google.png</a></p>
<p>The fact remains that Scientology’s world influence never makes its appearance on any mainstream media news sites … it is purely manufactured as “Public Relations” like everything else created within the world of Scientology, from its bogus “Freedom Magazine” to “Stand League” to “Narconon” to “Youth for Human Rights International” or any of its other hundreds of insidious front groups.</p>
<p>&#8220;Press Releases&#8221; usually come from the source, EIN Presswire (here&#8217;s a sample of how they favor Scientology):<br />
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/44ttxd4s" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tinyurl.com/44ttxd4s</a></p>
<p>Another interesting observation can be made from the BitterWinterMagazine X/Twitter account &#8230; here&#8217;s a screen shot of their post announcing the &#8220;Conference&#8221; yesterday: 5 &#8220;Likes,&#8221; 3 &#8220;Retweets,&#8221; and 1 comment (a real barn burner):<br />
<a href="https://novus2.com/righteouscause/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/BitterWinter.png" rel="nofollow ugc">https://novus2.com/righteouscause/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/BitterWinter.png</a></p>
<p>Any mention of a Scientology &#8220;Rome Conference May 30, 2024&#8221; ANYWHERE? Not that Google knows about:<br />
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/4yscns28" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tinyurl.com/4yscns28</a></p>
<p>And since the entire network of Scientology &#8220;news&#8221; organizations is so disjointed and poorly run, not even the &#8220;European Office Church of Scientology for Public Affairs and Human Rights&#8221; has mention of the conference on their Facebook page:<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/scientologyeurope/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/scientologyeurope/</a></p>
<p>Or on the European Office main website:<br />
<a href="https://www.europeanaffairs.eu/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.europeanaffairs.eu/</a></p>
<p>Nope.</p>
<p>How about Scientology Europe&#8217;s Twitter account?<br />
<a href="https://x.com/ScientologyEU" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/ScientologyEU</a></p>
<p>Nope.</p>
<p>Stand League Newsroom?<br />
<a href="https://www.standleague.org/newsroom/news/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.standleague.org/newsroom/news/</a></p>
<p>Nope.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all the time I have for this. The point has been made.</p>
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