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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 21:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-481550&quot;&gt;Gurtel&lt;/a&gt;.

As do we all,  including you, OSAtroll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-481550">Gurtel</a>.</p>
<p>As do we all,  including you, OSAtroll.</p>
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		By: Gurtel		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-481550</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 05:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-2725&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

he got what he deserved. KARMA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-2725">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>he got what he deserved. KARMA</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-2725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 00:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recommend watching the &quot;Heber and Phil&quot; video as I did without the sound to get reality on the beingness of this man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend watching the &#8220;Heber and Phil&#8221; video as I did without the sound to get reality on the beingness of this man.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-2724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 00:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no sound on my computer but I watched the Portland video with Heber anyway, and I also watched &quot;Heber and Phil&quot; (Donahue), a 20 minute talk on, I&#039;m presuming, DMSMH.  In this latter I just observed Heber&#039;s body language as he was interviewed by Phil Donahue.

Serene, yet fully alert,  TRs - expecially TRO, an amazing TRO -  fully in with a very natural kind of ARC, no overwhelm, unruffled yet exuding strong interest and granting of beingness at the same time, he let Phil be there and communicate, he listened, and when he talked, wow, was that audience paying attention!  The camera would pan the audience every so often and that audience soon began to  listen intently to him. Flawless comm cycle, high confront,  high ARC, high ability to grant beingness whilst still maintaining his own position in space - this man was exceptional.  No wonder the Dwarf had to get rid of him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no sound on my computer but I watched the Portland video with Heber anyway, and I also watched &#8220;Heber and Phil&#8221; (Donahue), a 20 minute talk on, I&#8217;m presuming, DMSMH.  In this latter I just observed Heber&#8217;s body language as he was interviewed by Phil Donahue.</p>
<p>Serene, yet fully alert,  TRs &#8211; expecially TRO, an amazing TRO &#8211;  fully in with a very natural kind of ARC, no overwhelm, unruffled yet exuding strong interest and granting of beingness at the same time, he let Phil be there and communicate, he listened, and when he talked, wow, was that audience paying attention!  The camera would pan the audience every so often and that audience soon began to  listen intently to him. Flawless comm cycle, high confront,  high ARC, high ability to grant beingness whilst still maintaining his own position in space &#8211; this man was exceptional.  No wonder the Dwarf had to get rid of him.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-2723</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 23:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

The fact that you admitted your mistake immediately and forthrightly keeps it a self observed error  and not an outpoint.  Only people with high security in their own abilities can do this.

While we&#039;re on the subject of outpoints, the President of the Church of Scientology not present at any grand opening of the Dwarf&#039;s Ideal Morgues? well, &quot;Hello, Federal&quot;.  (Though who knows,  privately  Heber could be  thinking that the only good thing about his deplorable situation is his not having to himself help officiate at  these these things,  and perhaps Ideal Orgs (the Dwarf&#039;s definition, not LRH&#039;s) is one of the reasons he&#039;s locked up in  the first place.)

Going back a while, I heard much praise of this man from various org terminals, including an IAS Reg who praised him to the skies to me. This last was right around the time that Heber was jailed in Spain.

I&#039;ve never heard anyone originate that about the Dwarf and I&#039;ve been around a long time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>The fact that you admitted your mistake immediately and forthrightly keeps it a self observed error  and not an outpoint.  Only people with high security in their own abilities can do this.</p>
<p>While we&#8217;re on the subject of outpoints, the President of the Church of Scientology not present at any grand opening of the Dwarf&#8217;s Ideal Morgues? well, &#8220;Hello, Federal&#8221;.  (Though who knows,  privately  Heber could be  thinking that the only good thing about his deplorable situation is his not having to himself help officiate at  these these things,  and perhaps Ideal Orgs (the Dwarf&#8217;s definition, not LRH&#8217;s) is one of the reasons he&#8217;s locked up in  the first place.)</p>
<p>Going back a while, I heard much praise of this man from various org terminals, including an IAS Reg who praised him to the skies to me. This last was right around the time that Heber was jailed in Spain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard anyone originate that about the Dwarf and I&#8217;ve been around a long time.</p>
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		By: Sandy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 21:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-2721&quot;&gt;Jethro Bodine&lt;/a&gt;.

That video actually made me tear up, seeing a younger Heber like that, and then thinking what was done to him.  Shameful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/remember-heber/#comment-2721">Jethro Bodine</a>.</p>
<p>That video actually made me tear up, seeing a younger Heber like that, and then thinking what was done to him.  Shameful.</p>
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		By: Jethro Bodine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 07:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a link to a video from the Portland &quot;Religious Freedom Crusade&quot; in 1985. It shows a much younger and more alive Heber who was at this time not yet a broken person. Check out the video starting at 4:37:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRj_RaBhdTA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to a video from the Portland &#8220;Religious Freedom Crusade&#8221; in 1985. It shows a much younger and more alive Heber who was at this time not yet a broken person. Check out the video starting at 4:37:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRj_RaBhdTA" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRj_RaBhdTA</a></p>
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		By: Gus_Cox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 04:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, I remember that well, I remember Rev. Champion well, and I remember Heber well.  I was also in LA in &#039;86.  I met a lot of cool people at both, and I&#039;m even still friends with a couple of them.  It&#039;s hard to believe it was 28 years ago!

Neither of those could ever happen again.  You can sum up Corporate Scientology&#039;s piss-poor stats with that alone.  28 years ago we could muster thousands of people from all over the world to Portland, OR, USA, and a year later to Los Angeles.  After 28 years of straight up and vertical expansion, there&#039;s not a chance in hell that could happen today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I remember that well, I remember Rev. Champion well, and I remember Heber well.  I was also in LA in &#8217;86.  I met a lot of cool people at both, and I&#8217;m even still friends with a couple of them.  It&#8217;s hard to believe it was 28 years ago!</p>
<p>Neither of those could ever happen again.  You can sum up Corporate Scientology&#8217;s piss-poor stats with that alone.  28 years ago we could muster thousands of people from all over the world to Portland, OR, USA, and a year later to Los Angeles.  After 28 years of straight up and vertical expansion, there&#8217;s not a chance in hell that could happen today.</p>
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		By: Robert Almblad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 02:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, you never look like an idiot. Mistakes happen, especially when you stand up and speak your voice against an aggressor.

We are all thankful you pay attention to what is going on in this cloak and dagger world... it is a David Miscavige shell game world...  it is meant to fool you... to con you... He wants you to give up your money to carry out his fluffy, puffy lifestyle.  Sooner or later the majority of the Scientology public will figure out he is not delivering LRH services, he is just extorting more money for himself. He lives the lifestyle of the rich and famous while his staff live in squalor... he can&#039;t hide from that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you never look like an idiot. Mistakes happen, especially when you stand up and speak your voice against an aggressor.</p>
<p>We are all thankful you pay attention to what is going on in this cloak and dagger world&#8230; it is a David Miscavige shell game world&#8230;  it is meant to fool you&#8230; to con you&#8230; He wants you to give up your money to carry out his fluffy, puffy lifestyle.  Sooner or later the majority of the Scientology public will figure out he is not delivering LRH services, he is just extorting more money for himself. He lives the lifestyle of the rich and famous while his staff live in squalor&#8230; he can&#8217;t hide from that.</p>
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		By: Michael Cox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 00:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was here in Portland for that crusade. Very sad what has become of Heber, and what has become of the CofS. I sure feel no Scientology presence here in Portland. I have driven by one of their locations many times and never any bodies. Now it is gone.

Does anyone know the address of the new &quot;Ideal Org&quot;, soon to be morgue?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was here in Portland for that crusade. Very sad what has become of Heber, and what has become of the CofS. I sure feel no Scientology presence here in Portland. I have driven by one of their locations many times and never any bodies. Now it is gone.</p>
<p>Does anyone know the address of the new &#8220;Ideal Org&#8221;, soon to be morgue?</p>
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