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		By: edge		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32695</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 04:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32686&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Jane!   I looked up a clip of &quot;Can We Ever Be Friends&quot; on youtube after watching the new years event video.  The same loudness.  The same creepiness.  The same over-stressing of every syllable. I hope you told him his voiceovers were indeed weird and creepy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32686">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Jane!   I looked up a clip of &#8220;Can We Ever Be Friends&#8221; on youtube after watching the new years event video.  The same loudness.  The same creepiness.  The same over-stressing of every syllable. I hope you told him his voiceovers were indeed weird and creepy.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32686</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 03:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32668&quot;&gt;edge&lt;/a&gt;.

remember the old &quot;Can We Ever Be Friends&quot; cassette?  It had the weird creepy voice on it that made you cringe and not want to give it to anyone, much less your family?  That voice is Jeff Pomeranz.  I spoke to him about it years ago and he said that each line of that cassette was &quot;CSed&quot; or &quot;Coached&quot; by LRH himself with notes of what tone level each line was to be done in. Also he was to do some of it in a monotone voice and then punch up some words loudly in it, and some words at the end of the line.  He did it that way cuz he was instructed to do it that way.  And my guess is that is the same with the new voiceovers he is doing for the church.  Maybe it is hypnotic and they think it will lay in hypnotic phrases like an implant or something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32668">edge</a>.</p>
<p>remember the old &#8220;Can We Ever Be Friends&#8221; cassette?  It had the weird creepy voice on it that made you cringe and not want to give it to anyone, much less your family?  That voice is Jeff Pomeranz.  I spoke to him about it years ago and he said that each line of that cassette was &#8220;CSed&#8221; or &#8220;Coached&#8221; by LRH himself with notes of what tone level each line was to be done in. Also he was to do some of it in a monotone voice and then punch up some words loudly in it, and some words at the end of the line.  He did it that way cuz he was instructed to do it that way.  And my guess is that is the same with the new voiceovers he is doing for the church.  Maybe it is hypnotic and they think it will lay in hypnotic phrases like an implant or something.</p>
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		By: edge		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, thanks for providing the name of the man doing the voiceovers.  Every syllable Jeff Pomerantz utters is so needlessly loud, boisterous, and over-the-top, I have to fight to get through it.  You are absolutely correct in that he does have an infomercial voice.   I imagine his voice coming on paid advertising at 2 am in the morning booming, &quot;Buy Your Basics, Today!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, thanks for providing the name of the man doing the voiceovers.  Every syllable Jeff Pomerantz utters is so needlessly loud, boisterous, and over-the-top, I have to fight to get through it.  You are absolutely correct in that he does have an infomercial voice.   I imagine his voice coming on paid advertising at 2 am in the morning booming, &#8220;Buy Your Basics, Today!&#8221;</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32100&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Its a bit of an odd colour too. A touch of the Donald Trump toupee look  I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32100">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Its a bit of an odd colour too. A touch of the Donald Trump toupee look  I think.</p>
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		By: Lars		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32218</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having watched just the beginning part with Jeff P. announcing all
the &quot;dones&quot; and then DM&#039;s talk for 5 minutes several things come
to mind:
1. The crowd&#039;s standing ovations are way longer and more intense
     than we used to experience in the 90&#039;s and beginning 2000.
2.  Jeff&#039;s voice sounds like it has gone through several electronic
     enhancers. Well he is getting old but what a difference from 10
     years ago.
3.  However, the main idea I got was that DM has now evolved his
     exit strategy. While holding his head high he can now say that
     everything is done so he will be able to leave without losing face.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having watched just the beginning part with Jeff P. announcing all<br />
the &#8220;dones&#8221; and then DM&#8217;s talk for 5 minutes several things come<br />
to mind:<br />
1. The crowd&#8217;s standing ovations are way longer and more intense<br />
     than we used to experience in the 90&#8217;s and beginning 2000.<br />
2.  Jeff&#8217;s voice sounds like it has gone through several electronic<br />
     enhancers. Well he is getting old but what a difference from 10<br />
     years ago.<br />
3.  However, the main idea I got was that DM has now evolved his<br />
     exit strategy. While holding his head high he can now say that<br />
     everything is done so he will be able to leave without losing face.</p>
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		By: The Invisible Man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 05:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32163&quot;&gt;Lise&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Lise, good story. I read it, after I fully woke up in June last year.  Sorry about the cram I wrote on you a few years ago. For what I can remember I think it was about objectives on one of your pcs when you were C/sing in Bris org.  It was mostly likely Miscaviage&#039;s squirrel tech i was going by.  You weren&#039;t happy that I remember  . So who&#039;s this mystery person?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32163">Lise</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Lise, good story. I read it, after I fully woke up in June last year.  Sorry about the cram I wrote on you a few years ago. For what I can remember I think it was about objectives on one of your pcs when you were C/sing in Bris org.  It was mostly likely Miscaviage&#8217;s squirrel tech i was going by.  You weren&#8217;t happy that I remember  . So who&#8217;s this mystery person?</p>
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		By: Carcha		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32190</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 01:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32097&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aquamarine - Nice comm cycle with &quot;Rich.&quot; Part of the equation (puzzle) is that we do trust, and when we see that some results are correct, we tend to put our trust - and our hope - in the expectation that all other results will be correct. The key element in all this is knowledge. As one gains knowledge, that comes to replace trust and hope. LRH explains this very, very well in the Student Hat lectures (Study Tapes) with his example about gaining sufficient data and understanding which becomes knowledge, to make an evaluation for oneself INDEPENDENTLY of authorities. &quot;Rich&quot; has seen some results, but hasn&#039;t sufficient data or knowledge to form his own conclusions, so he clings to trust and hope. Unfortunately, that trust has been stolen. The solution is what you have begun with Rich - to get him to look (gather data) and understand enough to make his own evaluation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32097">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aquamarine &#8211; Nice comm cycle with &#8220;Rich.&#8221; Part of the equation (puzzle) is that we do trust, and when we see that some results are correct, we tend to put our trust &#8211; and our hope &#8211; in the expectation that all other results will be correct. The key element in all this is knowledge. As one gains knowledge, that comes to replace trust and hope. LRH explains this very, very well in the Student Hat lectures (Study Tapes) with his example about gaining sufficient data and understanding which becomes knowledge, to make an evaluation for oneself INDEPENDENTLY of authorities. &#8220;Rich&#8221; has seen some results, but hasn&#8217;t sufficient data or knowledge to form his own conclusions, so he clings to trust and hope. Unfortunately, that trust has been stolen. The solution is what you have begun with Rich &#8211; to get him to look (gather data) and understand enough to make his own evaluation.</p>
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		By: Carcha		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 01:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32144&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aquamarine, you are right. &quot;Old School&quot; is trying to make a point, but fails.

Some wish to dismiss all of Scientology. There premise is either some foggy not-is-ness (DENIAL) to the effect that the world is a fine place, nothing is wrong, people misbehave for reasons not necessitating explanation, there is no reactive mind, and Scientology is a &quot;scam made up by some deluded and greedy science-fiction writer.&quot; 

The Scientologist&#039;s premise is (and this is LOGIC): for every effect there must be a knowable cause, the world has problems which cry for resolution, man behaves irrationally due to the presence of a reactive mind, there is truth and something to know about life, and Scientology is the study of that - a truly ground-breaking body of knowledge..

To critics, all one need say is, &quot;Your shoes are dirty, and you are tracking mud.&quot; As someone else pointed out, the critics presume to tell ME a) what I have seen, b) what my experience has been, c) that I am deluded, and d) that Scientology is a &quot;worthless scam.&quot; Yet these critics have nothing to offer. Nothing. No solution. There is only flat out denial in their parroted repertoire (patter). That is the reactive mind at work, and we as Scientologists are supposed to show infinite compassion and acknowledge and be polite and suffer their worthless garbage? These are the exact same people who brought about the Dark Ages, the Inquisition, Radical Islam, and the Radical Co$. The exact same ones. It is THEIR &quot;world&quot; which does not work, not ours.

NO man living or dead or yet to be born tells me what I have seen, what my experience has been, or what I deduce for myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32144">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aquamarine, you are right. &#8220;Old School&#8221; is trying to make a point, but fails.</p>
<p>Some wish to dismiss all of Scientology. There premise is either some foggy not-is-ness (DENIAL) to the effect that the world is a fine place, nothing is wrong, people misbehave for reasons not necessitating explanation, there is no reactive mind, and Scientology is a &#8220;scam made up by some deluded and greedy science-fiction writer.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Scientologist&#8217;s premise is (and this is LOGIC): for every effect there must be a knowable cause, the world has problems which cry for resolution, man behaves irrationally due to the presence of a reactive mind, there is truth and something to know about life, and Scientology is the study of that &#8211; a truly ground-breaking body of knowledge..</p>
<p>To critics, all one need say is, &#8220;Your shoes are dirty, and you are tracking mud.&#8221; As someone else pointed out, the critics presume to tell ME a) what I have seen, b) what my experience has been, c) that I am deluded, and d) that Scientology is a &#8220;worthless scam.&#8221; Yet these critics have nothing to offer. Nothing. No solution. There is only flat out denial in their parroted repertoire (patter). That is the reactive mind at work, and we as Scientologists are supposed to show infinite compassion and acknowledge and be polite and suffer their worthless garbage? These are the exact same people who brought about the Dark Ages, the Inquisition, Radical Islam, and the Radical Co$. The exact same ones. It is THEIR &#8220;world&#8221; which does not work, not ours.</p>
<p>NO man living or dead or yet to be born tells me what I have seen, what my experience has been, or what I deduce for myself.</p>
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		By: Formost		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32080&quot;&gt;justpassingby&lt;/a&gt;.

One thing that struck me, when he what appeared to be tripping over his words a little earlier, that something he took (Booze, Uppers, etc.) might have worn off, or yet another lie told (O/Ws kicking in ... how much BS can you pawn off in a single sitting before it starts to hit you hard?) was missed bigtime and he had to rush off. Already a minute before he said Good Night something was off, it seemed he wasn&#039;t in PT anymore. The 30-year long DM era is coming to an end. Already the media is challenging claims made by DM that a particular Irish Radio station was also involved with a supposed Dublin dissemination campaign. He&#039;s done, just hasn&#039;t cogged on it yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32080">justpassingby</a>.</p>
<p>One thing that struck me, when he what appeared to be tripping over his words a little earlier, that something he took (Booze, Uppers, etc.) might have worn off, or yet another lie told (O/Ws kicking in &#8230; how much BS can you pawn off in a single sitting before it starts to hit you hard?) was missed bigtime and he had to rush off. Already a minute before he said Good Night something was off, it seemed he wasn&#8217;t in PT anymore. The 30-year long DM era is coming to an end. Already the media is challenging claims made by DM that a particular Irish Radio station was also involved with a supposed Dublin dissemination campaign. He&#8217;s done, just hasn&#8217;t cogged on it yet.</p>
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		By: Rusty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 22:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32111&quot;&gt;Mike Laws&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks! Very interesting]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/same-old-new-years/#comment-32111">Mike Laws</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks! Very interesting</p>
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