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		By: YoungScn		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-7105</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing I can&#039;t understand: the OT III incident is described  (supposedly accuratyely and in more or less detail) in this video. Now, I know it may or may not be restimmed on people who see the video with just the description and pictures (I actually have no real evidence of anyone being restimmed by simply hearing the story), but I still refuse to even listen to it (my case level is below that point). But encouraging people to see a video that contains the description of a level/incident that LRH purposefully didn&#039;t allow to be disclosed and/or described to those under the appropriate level to as-is it? Why are you doing that?? Not everyone reading this blog is OT III or above!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I can&#8217;t understand: the OT III incident is described  (supposedly accuratyely and in more or less detail) in this video. Now, I know it may or may not be restimmed on people who see the video with just the description and pictures (I actually have no real evidence of anyone being restimmed by simply hearing the story), but I still refuse to even listen to it (my case level is below that point). But encouraging people to see a video that contains the description of a level/incident that LRH purposefully didn&#8217;t allow to be disclosed and/or described to those under the appropriate level to as-is it? Why are you doing that?? Not everyone reading this blog is OT III or above!</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6648</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6635&quot;&gt;BareFacedMessiah&lt;/a&gt;.

See the church website, they put all their insanity there for everyone to read....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6635">BareFacedMessiah</a>.</p>
<p>See the church website, they put all their insanity there for everyone to read&#8230;.</p>
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		By: jewel		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6643</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jewel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know If Joanne is an OT?  (not by her actions, as those could only be done by a raving bank) Is she from LA?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know If Joanne is an OT?  (not by her actions, as those could only be done by a raving bank) Is she from LA?</p>
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		By: BareFacedMessiah		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6635</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6585&quot;&gt;BareFacedMessiah&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, I did sound a bit mixed up. I trust the reporters, obviously not enough to run around naked and forward their stories blindly. My point is that I just have a report here. Now I am trying to verify it. Before I start working with such data - and unfortunately many do already - I would like to be sure that the story is bulletproof.
My objective behaviour made me leave the cult. Guess why there are still so many in there? Most members do not verify data at all. So there is an added value in being a little bit critical of my own fellows.
And see the value of such bulletproof evidence when published. That is what I am striving for. Something that simply cannot find any excuse ... on a few thousand flyers handed out right next to a public emeter stand or exhibition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6585">BareFacedMessiah</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, I did sound a bit mixed up. I trust the reporters, obviously not enough to run around naked and forward their stories blindly. My point is that I just have a report here. Now I am trying to verify it. Before I start working with such data &#8211; and unfortunately many do already &#8211; I would like to be sure that the story is bulletproof.<br />
My objective behaviour made me leave the cult. Guess why there are still so many in there? Most members do not verify data at all. So there is an added value in being a little bit critical of my own fellows.<br />
And see the value of such bulletproof evidence when published. That is what I am striving for. Something that simply cannot find any excuse &#8230; on a few thousand flyers handed out right next to a public emeter stand or exhibition.</p>
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		By: The Oracle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Oracle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 04:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6579&quot;&gt;DCOT&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;All of the declares&quot;  &quot;From a Sea Org member at Flag&quot;   this is nefarious slander with only generalities.

I seriously doubt if any of the Sea Org Members at Flag know who Marty is unless it&#039;s security.  They don&#039;t even know who David Miscavige is.  They just know to obey.  And they do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6579">DCOT</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;All of the declares&#8221;  &#8220;From a Sea Org member at Flag&#8221;   this is nefarious slander with only generalities.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt if any of the Sea Org Members at Flag know who Marty is unless it&#8217;s security.  They don&#8217;t even know who David Miscavige is.  They just know to obey.  And they do it.</p>
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		By: Formost		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6619</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6567&quot;&gt;Martin Padfield&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed they did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6567">Martin Padfield</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed they did.</p>
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		By: Formost		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6617</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6581&quot;&gt;statpush&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, the Xenu segment de-proffessionalized the docu somewhat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6581">statpush</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, the Xenu segment de-proffessionalized the docu somewhat.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6597</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6577&quot;&gt;Eric Alexandrou&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t worry Eric A.   Communication is rarely perfect.  Just express yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6577">Eric Alexandrou</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry Eric A.   Communication is rarely perfect.  Just express yourself.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6588</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6585&quot;&gt;BareFacedMessiah&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, I would suspect they got a letter(s) from the church that those quotes come from. You should ask them....

You seem pretty ,mixed up here -- you &quot;trust the reporters but they are not &quot;reliable sources.&quot;??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6585">BareFacedMessiah</a>.</p>
<p>Well, I would suspect they got a letter(s) from the church that those quotes come from. You should ask them&#8230;.</p>
<p>You seem pretty ,mixed up here &#8212; you &#8220;trust the reporters but they are not &#8220;reliable sources.&#8221;??</p>
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		By: BareFacedMessiah		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6585</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BareFacedMessiah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6575&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Marty&#039;s position is clear. But what about the source of the reporters. They claim that the church had such statements. But the reporters are not a reliable source. I trust them. But I would like to know what they are referring to. What was their phonecall or document?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologists-at-war/#comment-6575">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Marty&#8217;s position is clear. But what about the source of the reporters. They claim that the church had such statements. But the reporters are not a reliable source. I trust them. But I would like to know what they are referring to. What was their phonecall or document?</p>
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