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You’re so right.

Oliver, perhaps Nickname need to take the following quote from LRH and compare it to the KNOWN and VERIFIED FACTS :

“Blinded with injured optic nerves, and lame with physical injuries to hip and back, at the end of World War II, I faced an almost non-existent future. My Service record states: ‘This officer has no neurotic or psychotic tendencies of any kind whatsoever’,but it also states, ‘Permanently disabled physically.’ And so there came a further blow – I was abandoned by family and friends as a supposedly hopeless cripple and a probable burden upon them for the rest of my days. I yet worked my way back to fitness and strength in less than two years, using only what I knew about Man and his relationship to the universe. I had no one to help me; what I had to know I had to find out. And it’s quite a trick studying when you cannot see. I became used to being told it was all impossible, that there was no way, no hope. Yet I came to see again and walk again.” (“My Philosophy” by LRH)

Just that one little quote when compared to the KNOWN and VERIFIED records which anyone can get, is more than enough to establish LRH as a liar, and Dianetics as a hoax as disseminated in DMSMH.

With only ONE event like the above, I would dismiss the work of ANYONE regardless if we could find some “truthful” parts in his work. I would rather start from scratch than to navigate a labyrinth of booby-traps to filter truth from falsity. I think, IMHO, than anyone who understand science and critical thinking, would decide exactly the same as I.

Very good analysis my friend. Here’s my take on Scientology: If you “know” the tech it will infect you.

“Socialists are today;s primary invaders onto private property”

Nu-uh, the Marcabians are by a loooong shot 😉

“Oh well, Thetaclear, I suspect we will have to help these die-hard Hubbard followers the same way you do someone with an addiction. Just as you can keep returning to the bottle or some other form of self-medication in hopes that it will work this time, some keep returning to Scientology like a dog returns to his vomit (Proverbs 26:11).”

Yes Bruce; it is an incredible phenomena, though a very sad one. They just can’t let go.

“It is too bad that Vance Woodward had to recall his book ‘Addicted to Scientology’. It really makes a lot of sense as an explanation. Scientology does act as a ‘drug-free high’.

It actually makes a LOT of sense, Bruce! That’s what I’ve felt that Scn was, but I hadn’t given much thought to that idea. I hadn’t developed an analysis about it. Interesting book indeed! I tried in vain to find a copy online after I read your mention of it, but as you said, it seems to have been recalled. I did found however, an interesting link about it when Tony Ortega mentioned it back in 2012 :

http://tonyortega.org/2012/12/06/vance-woodwards-book-addicted-to-scientology-is-an-amazing-high/

And here is an image :

https://covers.openlibrary.org/w/id/7254117-L.jpg

“I remember feeling like something really dramatically incredible had happened after my sessions. Tears, laughter, earth-shaking revelations, self-discovery, awe-inspiring new vistas of understanding.”

“But try as I might I can’t remember any actual change that lasted longer than three days.”

Same with me. I ALWAYS rollercoastered. The only thing that I seldom rollercoastered about was the training part like TRs and other basics of auditing like the comm cycle, the Auditor’s Code, ARC as a concept, O/Ws as it relates to diminished reach and withdrawal from areas and people, etc. Those things I did found to be quite helpful in my daily life. I still do, though I no longer have a “KSW attitude” about it, you know. I just use it as I see fit with the modifications that I deem necessary. But processing wise? Wow, I was like one of those Bush Gardens’ rollercoasters, haha.

“I didn’t lose my shyness around girls or my tendency to mumble or fondness for sweets. No discernable decrease in response time. No ability to make an ashtray rise in the air either.”

I see. My wins mostly came from handling O/Ws and Ethics. I wanted to achieve a level of love and compassion for others that I didn’t have. I made some progress on that, but also had many, many relapses which ended up in a low self-esteem, feeling that I didn’t have much value as a human being. Basically feeling as a dog, haha. 🙂

“My intelligence soared to the maximum, I always aced the test in the time allotted. Something to do with repeating the exact same test over and over until I had all the answers memorized.”

Yeah, one learn how to beat the test, finally, 🙂

“I also aced the ‘Leadership Test’, the famous test invented by Hubbard himself to find suitable executive talent. With questions like ‘If you had to operate a new piece of equipment, would you try to guess how to do it or would you read and follow the instructions?’ All you have to do to pass the ‘Leadership Test’ is pretend you are the most brown-nosing toady that ever existed.”

Haha, that was good strategy!

“Pretend you revere Hubbard like a deity, dote on his every word, and you can easily pass the ‘Leadership’ test.”

Yeah, the more one revered and admired LRH, the more others validated our existence.

“That doesn’t mean I got any lasting good out of Scientology. The best day was the one I left it for good. Like what they say about beating your head against the wall – it feels so good when you stop.”

I perfectly understand you Bruce, because it was the same way for me. The day that I FINALLY decided to let go of Scn, I felt the biggest release of my whole life. It happened right here at this blog right after I watched the “not official” LRH interview called, “The Shrinking World of L. Ronald Hubbard” :

https://youtu.be/ZJOqxLvcQW8

Upon watching that video I was finally able to see LRH for what he REALLY was. I was able to see this magnificent “OT” being all nervous, insecure, insincere, malicious, secretive, degraded, delusional, etc, etc.Before that video, I was still giving him the benefit of the doubt – a damn weakness of mine with people, yout know. I don’t know if it is a blessing of a curse – I was quite aware of his misguided and destructive policies, but I still thought that the “Tech” itself (as in “Auditing tech”, HCOBs) was workable enough, though incapable of bringing about the advertised results. But after that video, it was as if a big huge back mass that was sitting in front of my eyes blinding me from truth, had suddenly vanished. Then everything became cristal clear. He was just a VERY sick man and nothing more.

Then I began a long search for REAL answers and studied and applied many, many methods of healing and psychotherapy – many of them very ancient – Eastern philosophies from an historical perspective, and Critical Thinking, and put it all together in a coherent whole. Then I began to REALLY win on life instead of losing. I am still a beginning student, but the road is very exciting and full of great adventures.

Thanks for sharing your experiences and Viewpoints with me, Bruce.

Yes indeed, Oliver; we will never be, 🙂

Thanks Cindy. Yes, it is indeed. The individual who did the research, found out that many of the so called “grammatical errors” that DM alleged the books were “plagued” with, were not actual ones, and in the case where some errors did existed, it didn’t amount to anything that would cause anyone to misinterpret the text(s) in question. They were minor stuff.

He also found out that those “grammatical errors” were mostly sentences or paragraphs that could represent “bad PR” for the CofS, you know, because of LRH’s well known big mouth. Things like that; people and organizations/institutions he mentioned (his own wife, for example,Volney Mathison, the actual creator of the E-meter, etc) that are now in disgrace with the church. General speaking, things that crazy DM considered “bad” PR, like specific quotes against government agencies and/or individuals.

The above is true, but I have also heard – though I can’t exactly confirm this (Perhaps Mike knows more about it) – that the copyrights of the older editions were about to expire and he needed those “new” modifications to create new copyrighed materials. Most of LRH’s materials including the upper levels, were already in possession of the Indie field (the Freezone, Scientolipedia, Matrix Files Scientology, etc). He needed a way to “distance” himself and LRH from those “squirrels”, and making all those modifications alleging that the older stuff were never really “On Source”, makes EVERYTHING before the GAT 1 and 2 as “SQUIRREL” materials, not 100% LRH. So anyone making allegations the Scn can also be found and practiced outside of the Church’s control, would be immediately “dead agented” by claiming, “The materials in the field are “squirrel” tech, and isn’t Scn at all.

IMHO, I think that the above factor was a stronger motivation than income. But that’s just my opinion, and nothing more. The other information about those alleged “grammatical errors” that were mostly non-existent, is however, factual and not an opinion.

Thanks Bruce. Nickname, please take these words to heart.

True dat Thetaclear. We been done bamboozled by the flimflam man. Once woken up from the Scientology trance, one will never to be suckered in again.