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		By: Kathy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 08:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bravo! Scientology is no different than those idiots in Colorado City, Charles Mason&#039;s cult, etc. I believe in God but when a &quot;church&quot; controls your entire life , destroys families and financially robs you in God&#039;s name is no church and this isn&#039;t God&#039;s ways or writings. The world is crazy and scary enough without having people like those in scientology and other cults putting more fear into our lives and in the world. Families have changed throughout the years and we fight hard enough to keep them together, values intact and safe without idiots like scientology tearing them apart. I have never believed in churchs that force you to financially bankruptcy yourself and your family in order to be a member or to get into heaven. Scientology and these other cult churches need to be struck down by God and closed permanently. There is no God in scientology, the psycho head of this so called church has a  &quot;god complex&quot;. Keep up the great work exposing these frauds and liars!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo! Scientology is no different than those idiots in Colorado City, Charles Mason&#8217;s cult, etc. I believe in God but when a &#8220;church&#8221; controls your entire life , destroys families and financially robs you in God&#8217;s name is no church and this isn&#8217;t God&#8217;s ways or writings. The world is crazy and scary enough without having people like those in scientology and other cults putting more fear into our lives and in the world. Families have changed throughout the years and we fight hard enough to keep them together, values intact and safe without idiots like scientology tearing them apart. I have never believed in churchs that force you to financially bankruptcy yourself and your family in order to be a member or to get into heaven. Scientology and these other cult churches need to be struck down by God and closed permanently. There is no God in scientology, the psycho head of this so called church has a  &#8220;god complex&#8221;. Keep up the great work exposing these frauds and liars!!</p>
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		By: Frank Beans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2017 23:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-156974&quot;&gt;Anonymous Fan&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree. I think one of the most powerful moments of the series so far is Tom Devocht&#039;s testimonial in this episode. I&#039;ve seen Devocht on other shows and on &quot;Going Clear&quot; and you just get the sense he is not the type of man who gets teary often, if ever. To see him struggle to apologize to anyone he feels he might have hurt proves not just his good character but also the long-lasting trauma this organization causes in good people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-156974">Anonymous Fan</a>.</p>
<p>I agree. I think one of the most powerful moments of the series so far is Tom Devocht&#8217;s testimonial in this episode. I&#8217;ve seen Devocht on other shows and on &#8220;Going Clear&#8221; and you just get the sense he is not the type of man who gets teary often, if ever. To see him struggle to apologize to anyone he feels he might have hurt proves not just his good character but also the long-lasting trauma this organization causes in good people.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Fan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Late to the party but I really liked this episode, I think it was the best one so far. Good job!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the party but I really liked this episode, I think it was the best one so far. Good job!</p>
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		By: amycleary		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-156806</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so proud of you, your story touched me. As a parent I would do anything for my children, but you go beyond that. I hope your children see what you are doing as a blessing, not a curse. You could scale that wall and drag them out kicking and screaming but your not. Your standing on a world stage and telling people your story, and how this cult destroy&#039;s lives. I&#039;m proud of you and Leah. We need more people like you in this world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so proud of you, your story touched me. As a parent I would do anything for my children, but you go beyond that. I hope your children see what you are doing as a blessing, not a curse. You could scale that wall and drag them out kicking and screaming but your not. Your standing on a world stage and telling people your story, and how this cult destroy&#8217;s lives. I&#8217;m proud of you and Leah. We need more people like you in this world.</p>
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		By: Rachel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2016 03:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Mike! I just wanted to comment on the Church of Scientology&#039;s smear campaigns against its former memebers. They make no sense. If these people are so bad, why are you (the Church) letting them be a major part of your organization for decades, and/or, why didn&#039;t decades of Scientology make them better people? Either way, Scientology comes off as an epic fail. ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike! I just wanted to comment on the Church of Scientology&#8217;s smear campaigns against its former memebers. They make no sense. If these people are so bad, why are you (the Church) letting them be a major part of your organization for decades, and/or, why didn&#8217;t decades of Scientology make them better people? Either way, Scientology comes off as an epic fail. ?</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 06:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-155660&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

This comment will be so overly simplistic that you must all forgive me.
But please take a step back, understand that all of these LRH writings are musings of a Man.. a corrupt, imperfect, man.. professing knowledge he never had. 
For all who seek their truth.. how about the truth of living a good life they can be proud of.. doing good.. and pledge to remain free of any self professed messiah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-155660">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>This comment will be so overly simplistic that you must all forgive me.<br />
But please take a step back, understand that all of these LRH writings are musings of a Man.. a corrupt, imperfect, man.. professing knowledge he never had.<br />
For all who seek their truth.. how about the truth of living a good life they can be proud of.. doing good.. and pledge to remain free of any self professed messiah.</p>
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		By: marildi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 23:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-155833&quot;&gt;rogerHornaday&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent comments, Roger, on all points. I guess I underestimated you. :)

“That’s how you learn. You listen to the experts debate then you go with the argument that makes more sense to you. That’s what I continue to do.”

Great. As you probably gathered, that TED talk by Sheldrake was initially banned by TED - but there was so much protest from the public that a debate of sorts did occur, with TED’s “science board” publishing their views, followed by Sheldrake’s rebuttal. Some time later, TED actually crossed out (put lines through) their original statement – making it still possible to read, however – while leaving in Sheldrake’s responses. To TED&#039;s credit, the page is still on their website, which you can read here: 
http://blog.ted.com/open-for-discussion-graham-hancock-and-rupert-sheldrake/

Have a Merry Christmas. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-155833">rogerHornaday</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent comments, Roger, on all points. I guess I underestimated you. 🙂</p>
<p>“That’s how you learn. You listen to the experts debate then you go with the argument that makes more sense to you. That’s what I continue to do.”</p>
<p>Great. As you probably gathered, that TED talk by Sheldrake was initially banned by TED &#8211; but there was so much protest from the public that a debate of sorts did occur, with TED’s “science board” publishing their views, followed by Sheldrake’s rebuttal. Some time later, TED actually crossed out (put lines through) their original statement – making it still possible to read, however – while leaving in Sheldrake’s responses. To TED&#8217;s credit, the page is still on their website, which you can read here:<br />
<a href="http://blog.ted.com/open-for-discussion-graham-hancock-and-rupert-sheldrake/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blog.ted.com/open-for-discussion-graham-hancock-and-rupert-sheldrake/</a></p>
<p>Have a Merry Christmas. 🙂</p>
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		By: rogerHornaday		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 22:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-155753&quot;&gt;marildi&lt;/a&gt;.

I did watch the video with Rupert Sheldrake and every comment I&#039;ve written about it has turned into a long dissertation. I don&#039;t want to do that.  

Let me just say I am not qualified to refute the scientific merits of Sheldrake&#039;s sensible-sounding speech but that hardly means he cannot be refuted.  Of course he can.  I like his points and I would love to hear what Richard Dawkins, for instance, would say in response to them.  

That&#039;s how you learn.  You listen to the experts debate then you go with the argument that makes more sense to you.  That&#039;s what I continue to do.  

I am not indoctrinated by a cultural materialistic belief system.  The vedic scriptures say the subjective and empirical realms exist simultaneously but do not interact except through the interface between them, the physical body.  Tall tales about levitating yogis notwithstanding. 

As a side note, can you imagine the quagmire created in scientific research if scientists have to start allowing for &#039;thought interference&#039;  as a variable?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-155753">marildi</a>.</p>
<p>I did watch the video with Rupert Sheldrake and every comment I&#8217;ve written about it has turned into a long dissertation. I don&#8217;t want to do that.  </p>
<p>Let me just say I am not qualified to refute the scientific merits of Sheldrake&#8217;s sensible-sounding speech but that hardly means he cannot be refuted.  Of course he can.  I like his points and I would love to hear what Richard Dawkins, for instance, would say in response to them.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s how you learn.  You listen to the experts debate then you go with the argument that makes more sense to you.  That&#8217;s what I continue to do.  </p>
<p>I am not indoctrinated by a cultural materialistic belief system.  The vedic scriptures say the subjective and empirical realms exist simultaneously but do not interact except through the interface between them, the physical body.  Tall tales about levitating yogis notwithstanding. </p>
<p>As a side note, can you imagine the quagmire created in scientific research if scientists have to start allowing for &#8216;thought interference&#8217;  as a variable?</p>
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		By: Eric Skelly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Skelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 16:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been following Scientology for years. Ironically it started when a friend recommended Dianetics to me when I was going through a rough time. A google search led me to the BBC show where you and John Sweeney went at it. I was shocked at the lengths the church had gone to &quot;silence it&#039;s critics&quot;. You and Tom and Leah have done amazing things exposing the church and its Lilliputian Leader (seriously, he&#039;s gotta be 5&#039;2&quot;). I do have one question. Are we going to see Marty Rathbun or Jason Beghe on the show? I think Jason especially would be a massive public strike against the church given his celebrity success right now.

Keep up the amazing work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following Scientology for years. Ironically it started when a friend recommended Dianetics to me when I was going through a rough time. A google search led me to the BBC show where you and John Sweeney went at it. I was shocked at the lengths the church had gone to &#8220;silence it&#8217;s critics&#8221;. You and Tom and Leah have done amazing things exposing the church and its Lilliputian Leader (seriously, he&#8217;s gotta be 5&#8217;2&#8243;). I do have one question. Are we going to see Marty Rathbun or Jason Beghe on the show? I think Jason especially would be a massive public strike against the church given his celebrity success right now.</p>
<p>Keep up the amazing work!</p>
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		By: Sylvie Forrest		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sylvie Forrest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-aftermath-episode-4-aftermath/#comment-155722&quot;&gt;Kevin Kling&lt;/a&gt;.

I should have know you of all people would stand up
For Leah .
:)

She&#039;s so brave !

Happy holidays]]></description>
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<p>I should have know you of all people would stand up<br />
For Leah .<br />
🙂</p>
<p>She&#8217;s so brave !</p>
<p>Happy holidays</p>
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