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		By: Scooter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566866</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 07:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566768&quot;&gt;mwesten&lt;/a&gt;.

No problem. Love your work.

For a really lovely take on the Declaration, have a listen to Max Richter&#039;s &quot;Voices.&quot; Would recommend this to everyone to hear politics and art combined beautifully - my daughter gave it to me as a Xmas present.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566768">mwesten</a>.</p>
<p>No problem. Love your work.</p>
<p>For a really lovely take on the Declaration, have a listen to Max Richter&#8217;s &#8220;Voices.&#8221; Would recommend this to everyone to hear politics and art combined beautifully &#8211; my daughter gave it to me as a Xmas present.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 04:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566474&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

AnEx, that looks like another culty re-definition of words - &quot;social&quot; and &quot;security&quot; obviously don&#039;t include &quot;any form of social welfare and public insurance programs&quot;.  They are trying to pretend to be within society&#039;s norms and promoting widely-held ideals, when in reality they want to impose the sort of authoritarian system under which it ends up that few if any have real security as we generally understand it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566474">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>AnEx, that looks like another culty re-definition of words &#8211; &#8220;social&#8221; and &#8220;security&#8221; obviously don&#8217;t include &#8220;any form of social welfare and public insurance programs&#8221;.  They are trying to pretend to be within society&#8217;s norms and promoting widely-held ideals, when in reality they want to impose the sort of authoritarian system under which it ends up that few if any have real security as we generally understand it.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 04:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hubbard wrote &quot;Honest People Have Rights, Too&quot; and to me thats says that cynical redefinition of terms is at work here - &quot;honest people&quot; means scientologists, and probably only the select group of them considered in the best standing, while everyone else has minimal rights and falls under his label of &quot;fair game&quot;, subject to things like being &quot;deprived of property or injured by any means&quot; in a typical authoritarian ends-justifies-the-means formulation.  In the CofS itself we can see that members may have a right to an internal tribunal - but decisions are almost always made favoring those of higher status.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubbard wrote &#8220;Honest People Have Rights, Too&#8221; and to me thats says that cynical redefinition of terms is at work here &#8211; &#8220;honest people&#8221; means scientologists, and probably only the select group of them considered in the best standing, while everyone else has minimal rights and falls under his label of &#8220;fair game&#8221;, subject to things like being &#8220;deprived of property or injured by any means&#8221; in a typical authoritarian ends-justifies-the-means formulation.  In the CofS itself we can see that members may have a right to an internal tribunal &#8211; but decisions are almost always made favoring those of higher status.</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 14:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566472&quot;&gt;Tammy Synovec&lt;/a&gt;.

Wonderful! Have a lovely time <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f98b.png" alt="🦋" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566472">Tammy Synovec</a>.</p>
<p>Wonderful! Have a lovely time 🦋🙂</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 14:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566474&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

Boom! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f91c-1f3fb.png" alt="🤜🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f3a4.png" alt="🎤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a5.png" alt="💥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />
Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566474">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>Boom! 🤜🏻🎤💥<br />
Thank you!</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-human-rights-oil-and-water/#comment-566481&quot;&gt;Scooter&lt;/a&gt;.

Will do! Thanks for the suggestion.]]></description>
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<p>Will do! Thanks for the suggestion.</p>
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		By: GL		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 05:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grunt Curbonehead&#039;s misses started a gofundme for The Donalds civil/fraud bill and has raised a phenomenal 0.02% ($US134,014) as at this posting. WOW!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!! SUPER!!!! MARVELLOUS!!! (to use $camatology speak). Only $US354,865,986 to go, Grunt and Elena should clear that in a decade or ten at this rate. Hold on, isn&#039;t Grunt always going on and on about how he&#039;s &quot;worth&quot; millions and millions and...of dollars?

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/gofundme-mocked-for-raising-just-002-of-trumps-bill-for-civil-fraud/news-story/16e0d8557de4e993c83f6493d5fcc5b5]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grunt Curbonehead&#8217;s misses started a gofundme for The Donalds civil/fraud bill and has raised a phenomenal 0.02% ($US134,014) as at this posting. WOW!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!! SUPER!!!! MARVELLOUS!!! (to use $camatology speak). Only $US354,865,986 to go, Grunt and Elena should clear that in a decade or ten at this rate. Hold on, isn&#8217;t Grunt always going on and on about how he&#8217;s &#8220;worth&#8221; millions and millions and&#8230;of dollars?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/gofundme-mocked-for-raising-just-002-of-trumps-bill-for-civil-fraud/news-story/16e0d8557de4e993c83f6493d5fcc5b5" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/gofundme-mocked-for-raising-just-002-of-trumps-bill-for-civil-fraud/news-story/16e0d8557de4e993c83f6493d5fcc5b5</a></p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 00:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t be the slightest bit surprised if DM is enjoying the spectacle of opponents of the COS tearing into each other. Disagreements happen. LIVE WITH IT!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be the slightest bit surprised if DM is enjoying the spectacle of opponents of the COS tearing into each other. Disagreements happen. LIVE WITH IT!</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2024 22:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where, after all, do universal human rights end? At the doors of the Church of Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where, after all, do universal human rights end? At the doors of the Church of Scientology.</p>
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		By: Scooter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2024 20:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Damn, this is well put-together.
 
Thanks, Mikes. This is the perfect summary of just how toxic $cientology actually and factually is. Bit of a different Sunday morning read after having de-mited my quail and chooks :)

The only way it could be bettered is a full appendix with links to the relevant dox of testimony that support this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, this is well put-together.</p>
<p>Thanks, Mikes. This is the perfect summary of just how toxic $cientology actually and factually is. Bit of a different Sunday morning read after having de-mited my quail and chooks 🙂</p>
<p>The only way it could be bettered is a full appendix with links to the relevant dox of testimony that support this.</p>
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