WOW, Aqua…..just wow. Incredible post. I believe history proves the most insidious human evil begins with a charismatic smile and that ability to ‘reach down into people’s fears’. Thank you.

Tom, I thought we only got fruitcake at Christmas.

Yes, indeed. Very strange.

That’s most likely how it is, and I think Chris Shelton said the same thing in one of his videos. It’s still a strange union!

Joetheta, I believe all that kind of talk is just theatre on Farrakhan’s part. I don’t believe he hates white people or Jews.

Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending him, mind you!

I don’t like, trust or respect Farrakhan AT ALL, and I think its a tragedy that African Americans who want and need to empower themselves, better themselves, who strive to overcome the wrongs done to them in this country for centuries would unite themselves under the leadership of such a person. I think its a tragedy that there has been no-one to inherit the mantle of Martin Luther King, who had intelligence and perception combined with strength and compassion.

That said, the man is a powerful speaker and a master manipulator. He knows his people. He know how they live, what they deal with. He knows everything there is to know about them. He speaks directly to them and he knows how to whip up powerful emotions in them. He knows how to speak and get right under their skin with regard to being the descendants of slaves who came to this country in chains. He knows how to pierce thru logic and get to their gut, their fears. He speaks directly to THAT and he does it VERY well. His people believe that he knows them, understands them, cares deeply about them. MLK did this also but he tempered his insights with compassion and the necessity of avoiding hate. MLK inspired his people to be strong and to not hate, because hate would never win over love, he said. Farrakhan is having none of that. He unites his flock with the old standby method of giving them scapegoats. Jews, whites, blah blah, they’re devils, ts all their fault, blah blah. He’s a powerful speaker. His audience – they’re not hateful people. They’re most good, decent people. They’re mostly poor and struggling. He knows how to reach in, right to their gut, right to their deepseated fears, their shame, their dreads. Then he builds them up, tells them they’re superior, other wonderful stuff. They react to him not analytically but viscerally. I’ve seen it.

T.J., you’re most welcome. I think we all like being acknowledged 🙂

Understood and agreed on all you’ve said, especially, “…let’s celebrate our ability to think clearly for ourselves!”

Truthfully, not a day goes by that in some form or another I don’t give thanks for that!

Pssst! Here’s some juicy gossip, nothing I can verify, BUT… a while back, someone UTR, a public in one of the Ideal Morgues told me there was “policy” in that org to NOT reg NOI people “as the rest of us are”.

Now, the NOI people in that org don’t have money, this person told me.

Then again, neither do the other Scientologists! Many of them are just as broke, struggling, unemployed, etc as the NOIs, and they are crushed regged mercilessly!

So the policy to not reg the NOI can’t be due to income disparity between them and the other Scientologists in that org.

Yet, for the staff of that org, its hands off the NOI people with courses and and Bridge actions only suggested to them. The “enlightening” process for them does not include high pressure or crush regging, ever. That’s what this public told me several years ago.

Interesting, huh?

But again, I have no way of knowing if this is the truth. It would appear to be a sensible (if squirrel!) “policy” though.

Oh hey, it’s Carrie from OhNo Ross & Carrie! 🙂 Yes, there are also the 5 percenters, the group JayZ belongs to, another offshoot of the N.O.I.

There is no shortage of offshoot hate groups, unfortunately. If only we could bring together people for good, and unity, instead of race hate, gender discrimination, etc.

Aquamarine, thank you for the acknowledgement. 🙂 A simple thing like saying ‘good post’ is appreciated, and I am glad to know that someone found one of my posts worthwhile or at least I know that what I’ve said is being read by someone. I read here without commenting too much these days, if I don’t feel like I have anything interesting to add to the conversation, but this reminds me that I should also let people know when I find their posts enlightening.

This particular topic usually brings me to comment, as it deals with one of the groups that show little regard for human rights and seek to exclude and discriminate against people based on factors such as skin color or ethnicity. I am for unity and equal rights for all, for promoting peace, equality, and treating each other with kindness, care, love. We don’t really see that coming from the N.O.I.

Another similarity between the N.O.I. and C of S is that their main core body of membership, are made up mostly of ordinary people with average incomes, who don’t have tons of money to spare, yet give more than they can afford to promote what they think is the ‘right way’ despite how it deprives their families of everyday comforts or buying new cars, homes, etc.

So there is a large proportion of members of both groups who give up a lot, and live financially poorly, while the leader(s), those at the top, squander millions and live in wasteful luxury. The Church of Scientology has a massive amount of cash, yet constantly ‘reg’ their members for more money, while Miscavige tries to buy a Clearwater Florida building valued at 4.5 million for 15 million, and N.O.I.’s Farrakhan has accumulated multi-millions, some from businesses, such as cosmetics and hair products sold to people of color, some from various scams (medi-care fraud and monies from social betterment programs that rake in cash yet do nothing) and he has received millions in donations from Libya over the past 25 years. This is well documented if one cares to research.

Yet in both groups, the members live frugally and give way too much of their meager incomes to their Church or Group. The FLDS is the same, the members starve and cannot afford to feed and clothe their kids, their church owns their homes and can remove them at whim for no cause leaving them destitute, while Warren Jeffs callously wastes millions, ditto for Jehovah’s witnesses who are mandated to live poorly, drive older cars, have few possessions, not pursue higher education or well-paying jobs, while their Watchtower Society runs an Empire of businesses and the top dogs live much better than the main body of members. It was the same for the Shree Rajneesh cult, where the leader owned millions in property and dozens of luxury automobiles, while his followers lived in communal shacks, subsisted on a bowl of rice a day and spent their time working and fund raising, same thing for the moonies cult, hari krishnas, etc, etc. This sounds similar to the Sea Org dormitories, the members rice and beans meals, long days of hard work, and few amenities, while Miscavige has luxury living quarters, pricey vehicles, private planes, expensive tailored clothing and shoes and gourmet meals daily.

This seems to be a benchmark of abusive groups. Those in power have everything, much more than they possibly need, while the mass of members live with less and give more than they should.

Hello freedom of thought, let’s celebrate our ability to think clearly for ourselves! Those who are now out of an abusive group – be thankful you woke up to what was going on, and those who care, please continue to educate and work towards helping those who cannot yet see clearly.