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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I was still going to events, I went to one with Mr. Tony Mohammed speaking. There was a full house in the Quad at ASHO and everyone seemed so happy to have him there, deigning to speak to us. 

I had heard about Louis Farrakhan coming in a few weeks earlier and I looked up some videos on youtube. It was a facepalm moment. &quot;What are they thinking??&quot; Controversial Scientology aligning with the radical Nation of Islam? My thought was, &quot;I don&#039;t know who is going to get the worse end of the bad PR stick on this arrangement. Scientology connects with radial Islam or The Nation of Islam pushes Miscavige&#039;s cult of Scientology.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was still going to events, I went to one with Mr. Tony Mohammed speaking. There was a full house in the Quad at ASHO and everyone seemed so happy to have him there, deigning to speak to us. </p>
<p>I had heard about Louis Farrakhan coming in a few weeks earlier and I looked up some videos on youtube. It was a facepalm moment. &#8220;What are they thinking??&#8221; Controversial Scientology aligning with the radical Nation of Islam? My thought was, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know who is going to get the worse end of the bad PR stick on this arrangement. Scientology connects with radial Islam or The Nation of Islam pushes Miscavige&#8217;s cult of Scientology.&#8221;</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And certain of those in the NOI are none to happy that Brother Farrakhan is making an FSM commission on everyone he brings in. 

A little lengthy but you can really see what the NOI traditionalists think about having Scientology shoved down their throats for a profit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s63yV0jBwHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luvM2aCf5iA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And certain of those in the NOI are none to happy that Brother Farrakhan is making an FSM commission on everyone he brings in. </p>
<p>A little lengthy but you can really see what the NOI traditionalists think about having Scientology shoved down their throats for a profit.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s63yV0jBwHs" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s63yV0jBwHs</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luvM2aCf5iA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luvM2aCf5iA</a></p>
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		By: Chee chalker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65459&quot;&gt;hgc10&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that it was a business arrangement for the NOI management, but I think the rank and file NOI Muslims would be pretty peeved off to find out that LRH thought their prophet was make believe]]></description>
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<p>I agree that it was a business arrangement for the NOI management, but I think the rank and file NOI Muslims would be pretty peeved off to find out that LRH thought their prophet was make believe</p>
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		By: zemooo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now that all those who used to &#039;deliver&#039; services in the clampire are looking for work, one place to go is the &#039;social betterment&#039; side of the scam.  It is only a short walk from selling Clear and the Basics to selling &#039;The Way To Happiness&#039;.  Never mind the fact that the markup on services was 100% of cost, the cost of TWTH is marked up only 80%.  A slight improvement, but still an improvement.  

Watch for more of these to pop up, the clampire used to be good at events.  They made good money on them but seem to have lost the touch and the audience.  While I don&#039;t doubt that LA has a gang problem, the cartels in Mexico and Columbia and kidnapping gangs in Nicaragua and Brazil and other places beat them hands down.  

Anyone who thinks that handing out pamphlets is going cure a gang problem is just stupid enough to believe in the wit and wisdom of LRon Hubbtard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that all those who used to &#8216;deliver&#8217; services in the clampire are looking for work, one place to go is the &#8216;social betterment&#8217; side of the scam.  It is only a short walk from selling Clear and the Basics to selling &#8216;The Way To Happiness&#8217;.  Never mind the fact that the markup on services was 100% of cost, the cost of TWTH is marked up only 80%.  A slight improvement, but still an improvement.  </p>
<p>Watch for more of these to pop up, the clampire used to be good at events.  They made good money on them but seem to have lost the touch and the audience.  While I don&#8217;t doubt that LA has a gang problem, the cartels in Mexico and Columbia and kidnapping gangs in Nicaragua and Brazil and other places beat them hands down.  </p>
<p>Anyone who thinks that handing out pamphlets is going cure a gang problem is just stupid enough to believe in the wit and wisdom of LRon Hubbtard.</p>
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		By: TerrilPark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65452&quot;&gt;LDW&lt;/a&gt;.

I was one of the protesters. I wrote this below up. I neglected 
to factor in taxi cab drops, which at a guess would add 500 or so
to totals. Some of the protesters got inside the gate and photo&#039;s 
have appeared on ESMB and some video will also appear.

&quot;There was a fun successfull protest at the IAS event at St Hill
 yesterday. A group of Exes, never ins, Old Guard, anons and
 a freezoner picketed outside the gates yesterday. The police 
 were very friendly and helpful, especially 2 attractive female 
 officers, one of whom was the Sargent in charge. Previously 
 we had to stand opposite the gates which was uncomfortable 
 and unsafe as the CO$ had planted a row of trees which took
 up what little space there was on that side of the road. IIRC 
 this was because CO$ members wanted us on that side of 
 the road. There are no pavements that side and we found out 
 yesterday that this narrow road had a 60mph speed limit! The 
 female Sargent told us to stay on the St Hill side of the road 
 which had a reasonably wide footpath and this allowed us to 
 move around, stretch our legs and above all be much safer.
 I guess the moral is that if you send a woman to do a man&#039;s
 job you get better results. 

 I found out some interesting facts re the Sussex police. 43%
 of sargents are woman, and our rep is that we are a well 
 behaved fun group to be with. If its not fun its not protesting 
 CO$. 

 The main topic for slogans shouted to attendees centered on
 financial matters. &quot; Don&#039;t take your wallets in&quot;, &quot; Don&#039;t give them 
 any money&quot;, &quot; It all goes in Micaviges pocket&quot;, &quot; Then there was 
 &quot; CO$ is a Church of enforced abortions&quot;. &quot; Its a suppressive act
 to combine 2 orgs like LA&quot;. &quot; Narconon will be thrown under the 
 bus&quot;. &quot;I&#039;d dusted off my 7 year old posters and usually told 
 attendees &quot; Scientology outside the Church costs a fraction of 
 inside the Church.&quot;

 One anon estimated that we had caused a need for £ 2,000,000
 worth of repair auditing. Well he wasn&#039;t a fully hatted C/S, and 
 niether am I, but I think we should also consider £3,000,000
 worth of sec checks. &quot; Did you read any of the posters?&quot; &quot;Do you
 have similar thoughts yourself?&quot;. &quot; Are you disaffected with COB?&quot;

 We tried to estimate numbers attending. There was 4-500 cars
 in the car parks, only 6 coaches and maybe 50-100 arriving on
 foot. Looks like around 2000 in total.

 Two things struck me as odd. Most people arrived near the start 
 of the event at 7pm, I think that is different to previous times.
 Perhaps minimizing face time with reg&#039;s? Also very many attendees
 smiled at us and our posters and slogans. Seemed very genuine 
 friendly smiles to me. I&#039;m not sure what to make of that.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65452">LDW</a>.</p>
<p>I was one of the protesters. I wrote this below up. I neglected<br />
to factor in taxi cab drops, which at a guess would add 500 or so<br />
to totals. Some of the protesters got inside the gate and photo&#8217;s<br />
have appeared on ESMB and some video will also appear.</p>
<p>&#8220;There was a fun successfull protest at the IAS event at St Hill<br />
 yesterday. A group of Exes, never ins, Old Guard, anons and<br />
 a freezoner picketed outside the gates yesterday. The police<br />
 were very friendly and helpful, especially 2 attractive female<br />
 officers, one of whom was the Sargent in charge. Previously<br />
 we had to stand opposite the gates which was uncomfortable<br />
 and unsafe as the CO$ had planted a row of trees which took<br />
 up what little space there was on that side of the road. IIRC<br />
 this was because CO$ members wanted us on that side of<br />
 the road. There are no pavements that side and we found out<br />
 yesterday that this narrow road had a 60mph speed limit! The<br />
 female Sargent told us to stay on the St Hill side of the road<br />
 which had a reasonably wide footpath and this allowed us to<br />
 move around, stretch our legs and above all be much safer.<br />
 I guess the moral is that if you send a woman to do a man&#8217;s<br />
 job you get better results. </p>
<p> I found out some interesting facts re the Sussex police. 43%<br />
 of sargents are woman, and our rep is that we are a well<br />
 behaved fun group to be with. If its not fun its not protesting<br />
 CO$. </p>
<p> The main topic for slogans shouted to attendees centered on<br />
 financial matters. &#8221; Don&#8217;t take your wallets in&#8221;, &#8221; Don&#8217;t give them<br />
 any money&#8221;, &#8221; It all goes in Micaviges pocket&#8221;, &#8221; Then there was<br />
 &#8221; CO$ is a Church of enforced abortions&#8221;. &#8221; Its a suppressive act<br />
 to combine 2 orgs like LA&#8221;. &#8221; Narconon will be thrown under the<br />
 bus&#8221;. &#8220;I&#8217;d dusted off my 7 year old posters and usually told<br />
 attendees &#8221; Scientology outside the Church costs a fraction of<br />
 inside the Church.&#8221;</p>
<p> One anon estimated that we had caused a need for £ 2,000,000<br />
 worth of repair auditing. Well he wasn&#8217;t a fully hatted C/S, and<br />
 niether am I, but I think we should also consider £3,000,000<br />
 worth of sec checks. &#8221; Did you read any of the posters?&#8221; &#8220;Do you<br />
 have similar thoughts yourself?&#8221;. &#8221; Are you disaffected with COB?&#8221;</p>
<p> We tried to estimate numbers attending. There was 4-500 cars<br />
 in the car parks, only 6 coaches and maybe 50-100 arriving on<br />
 foot. Looks like around 2000 in total.</p>
<p> Two things struck me as odd. Most people arrived near the start<br />
 of the event at 7pm, I think that is different to previous times.<br />
 Perhaps minimizing face time with reg&#8217;s? Also very many attendees<br />
 smiled at us and our posters and slogans. Seemed very genuine<br />
 friendly smiles to me. I&#8217;m not sure what to make of that.&#8221;</p>
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		By: tony-b		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 05:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65452&quot;&gt;LDW&lt;/a&gt;.

Comment on LDW;s - I know it is off topic but TonyO&#039;s site is fantastic for so many belly laughs today.  Waking Miscavige up early  saturday from his single malt stupor after getting perhaps 3000 people there on Friday (including extras I assume) when he had commanded 10000 was a brilliantly executed ploy by the people who had no-doubt commanded should be nowhere near.  Isn&#039;t it interesting to see the police not being bought as they can be in LA and Clearwater?  Monty Python would be proud by the whole thing.  No more big events at Insanity Hill that&#039;s for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65452">LDW</a>.</p>
<p>Comment on LDW;s &#8211; I know it is off topic but TonyO&#8217;s site is fantastic for so many belly laughs today.  Waking Miscavige up early  saturday from his single malt stupor after getting perhaps 3000 people there on Friday (including extras I assume) when he had commanded 10000 was a brilliantly executed ploy by the people who had no-doubt commanded should be nowhere near.  Isn&#8217;t it interesting to see the police not being bought as they can be in LA and Clearwater?  Monty Python would be proud by the whole thing.  No more big events at Insanity Hill that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 05:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65431&quot;&gt;Jose Chung&lt;/a&gt;.

I know Jose. I can&#039;t tell you how many of these secret, confidential, only the cool beautiful people meetings that I&#039;ve been invited to or heard about.  In the 90&#039;s in the LA area, there were the cool jet setters that went back and forth to flag, and would talk about how fab the briefings were, but wouldn&#039;t tell me what they were about.   I couldn&#039;t afford flag so I wasn&#039;t privy, but it was usually intimated that dm was saving the world in some way.  Barf.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65431">Jose Chung</a>.</p>
<p>I know Jose. I can&#8217;t tell you how many of these secret, confidential, only the cool beautiful people meetings that I&#8217;ve been invited to or heard about.  In the 90&#8217;s in the LA area, there were the cool jet setters that went back and forth to flag, and would talk about how fab the briefings were, but wouldn&#8217;t tell me what they were about.   I couldn&#8217;t afford flag so I wasn&#8217;t privy, but it was usually intimated that dm was saving the world in some way.  Barf.</p>
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		By: tony-b		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 05:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65443&quot;&gt;McCarran&lt;/a&gt;.

Right on!]]></description>
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<p>Right on!</p>
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		By: tony-b		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 05:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65426&quot;&gt;Friend&lt;/a&gt;.

Friend you are dead right when you say most of us learn this stuff in school...... They are the basic rules of living together and any human who is raised in a nurturing environment learns and uses them - well let&#039;s say 98.5555% of humans..  No need to refer to the 10 commandments or The Way.  I was passing the local org and they had a small table with free personality test &quot;coupons&quot; and a copy of TWTH on it that said &quot;To you from us&quot; handwritten on the cover..  No scientologists are proud to be near the front door these days .  The few people going there rush in quickly and disappear or maybe sneak in/out the backdoor.  There was a chair so I sat down and started to read. I got the drift from scanning so I didn&#039;t have to read much.  A woman who identified herself as a minister came out and asked me how I was enjoying TWTH.  She took the book and said the thing she liked best about it was a line on the title page that said  something like &quot;because we care about your eternity&quot;.  She asked me what I thought and I said not a lot as it was all common sense.  I said it also disturbed me why scientology lives up to hardly any of these things.  She said of course they did, this was one of their basic belief texts. And I had made a generalisation that I didn&#039;t know anything about.  I challenged her to open it anywhere and she did and I read to her the LRH words of wisdom on that page which happened to be about respecting children and gave her an earful about abortions, child indoctrination and child slave labour.  She snatched the pamphlet up and said I was brainwashed which I though was hilarious coming from her, and went back inside.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65426">Friend</a>.</p>
<p>Friend you are dead right when you say most of us learn this stuff in school&#8230;&#8230; They are the basic rules of living together and any human who is raised in a nurturing environment learns and uses them &#8211; well let&#8217;s say 98.5555% of humans..  No need to refer to the 10 commandments or The Way.  I was passing the local org and they had a small table with free personality test &#8220;coupons&#8221; and a copy of TWTH on it that said &#8220;To you from us&#8221; handwritten on the cover..  No scientologists are proud to be near the front door these days .  The few people going there rush in quickly and disappear or maybe sneak in/out the backdoor.  There was a chair so I sat down and started to read. I got the drift from scanning so I didn&#8217;t have to read much.  A woman who identified herself as a minister came out and asked me how I was enjoying TWTH.  She took the book and said the thing she liked best about it was a line on the title page that said  something like &#8220;because we care about your eternity&#8221;.  She asked me what I thought and I said not a lot as it was all common sense.  I said it also disturbed me why scientology lives up to hardly any of these things.  She said of course they did, this was one of their basic belief texts. And I had made a generalisation that I didn&#8217;t know anything about.  I challenged her to open it anywhere and she did and I read to her the LRH words of wisdom on that page which happened to be about respecting children and gave her an earful about abortions, child indoctrination and child slave labour.  She snatched the pamphlet up and said I was brainwashed which I though was hilarious coming from her, and went back inside.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-noi-the-latest/#comment-65446&quot;&gt;Shelley&lt;/a&gt;.

I hadn&#039;t much bothered to look at the NOI &#038; the Cof$. I just accepted anything the Co$ was involved in was money orientated and deceptive. But I had a bit of a look and a horrible dark thought emerged regarding the concept of a cleared cannibal. If you&#039;ve studied a bit you&#039;ll know what that means - certain things can and will morph into something completely unintended &#038; different without Qual. 
&quot;God (and I use that word very loosely) help us.&quot;]]></description>
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<p>I hadn&#8217;t much bothered to look at the NOI &amp; the Cof$. I just accepted anything the Co$ was involved in was money orientated and deceptive. But I had a bit of a look and a horrible dark thought emerged regarding the concept of a cleared cannibal. If you&#8217;ve studied a bit you&#8217;ll know what that means &#8211; certain things can and will morph into something completely unintended &amp; different without Qual.<br />
&#8220;God (and I use that word very loosely) help us.&#8221;</p>
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