In SCN’s case, what we had in common was Tubby’s bank.

Always an easy way to win an arguement: That’s the bank talking 😉

I don’t think Theo is grieving for the reason you would like to believe. If he’s grieving at all, it’s probably because he feels he wasn’t treated fairly. I imagine he felt that if Mike and others were going to mince no words in their opinions of him on a personal level, he had the right to do the same. Unfortunately, it put Mike in a weird position because as the blog holder he understandably feels he shouldn’t have to put up with personal insults on his own blog. I understand both points of view.

marildi, let Theo do his grieving process for the disproved axiom 11. It is gone now, he will miss it. These things take time.

We needn’t read what somebody else writes about ‘as-issiness’, we need only read what Hubbard wrote. It has no duration per Hubbard. If you alter it with an ‘alter-isness’ which has no duration either, you do not get duration because zero times two is still zero. Therefore Hubbard’s notions about how creation comes into existence and stays there for a while is demonstrably false. His ‘persistence’ theory doesn’t hold up to its own rules.

Theo, I think you would like what Ken Urquhart had to say about as-isness in a comment he made in reply to a poster on his blog. It’s too long to quote, but here’s the link:

http://urqbones.com/2017/01/05/looking-at-failure-and-success-2/#comment-80

Besides, the other reason I mentioned for why people have left – the abuses – is probably the biggest one. — Marildi

Well, what about those who do a few courses and then quit? How many people try introductory or some lower bridge scientology but then walk away long before they see anything remotely resembling an abuse? Maybe Mike or Jeff H know more regarding the retention stats but I’d imagine there are far, far more people who fall into this bracket than those who leave after witnessing/suffering abuse.

Ha. The only one still operating in the “old ways” is you Theo. Anyone who does not agree with you or your interpretation of Hubbard is someone to be belittled, evaluated for, mocked and ordered around with an falsely entitled sense of superiority.

If the explanation as to why I trashed your comment didn’t make sense to you, I’m sorry.

I would also suggest that you start your own blog. You can have YOUR platform to tell the world what you think. You don’t need me. I am bad, nasty, “just like Miscavige” and a whole bunch of other things. I don’t think you should associate with me, I am making you PTS.

Mike, Theo has his good points and we all have things to learn, but I would have to agree that you deserve respect as the blog holder – and for other reasons too.

Trashing my comment and not publishing it shows the type of operation you run Mike. One way! Only. Like in the old days.

When I read the latest lengthy diatribe from Theo (that I trashed) I realized why I treat them differently.

The fundamentalist scientologists tend to come here and use my blog to tell me how I am wrong, what is wrong with me, what I don’t understand, why I am in error in allowing certain comments, how I have misunderstoods, how I am a failed case etc etc

The so-called critics have not done that. Ever. They do not start attacking me personally.

Someone like Theo appears to believe he has a RIGHT to use my blog to tell me what is right and wrong with me. I had enough of that when I was in scientology. Why on earth would I create a blog so that someone could start it up all over again.

Absolutely no sense of the rightness of things. No apparent realization of the arrogance and asserted rightness of “I know because I read what L. Ron Hubbard said.”

Hope this helps you understand. I only really realized it when I read Theo’s latest ramblings, ordering me to “Tell Leah Remini she should interview me” and “you have overts” and “you committed crimes when you ran scientology for your own personal profit” etc etc etc Completely nuts.

I have given him a LOT of leeway. and many others too. But there comes a point where I just don’t have the time, nor do I have the inclination, to read endless explanations from someone about how bad I am, how wrong I am and how sorry I should be for straying from the one true path of righteousness.