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	Comments on: Scientology and the &#8220;Chaos Merchants&#8221;	</title>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t the CofS itself a &quot;merchant of chaos&quot;?  They peddle the &quot;dwindling spiral&quot; fearmongering that the world is going to fall apart at any moment - unless you give all your time and money to them.

Hubbard both accused others of what he himself was guilty of, and also created an organization that turned out very much like the sort of traditional religions he liked to deride - using apocalyptic visions, and a claimed path to salvation and eternal life, plus all sorts of trappings like prosperity gospel style fundraising, and overly fancy buildings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the CofS itself a &#8220;merchant of chaos&#8221;?  They peddle the &#8220;dwindling spiral&#8221; fearmongering that the world is going to fall apart at any moment &#8211; unless you give all your time and money to them.</p>
<p>Hubbard both accused others of what he himself was guilty of, and also created an organization that turned out very much like the sort of traditional religions he liked to deride &#8211; using apocalyptic visions, and a claimed path to salvation and eternal life, plus all sorts of trappings like prosperity gospel style fundraising, and overly fancy buildings.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 06:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578294&quot;&gt;Pietro Vannucci&lt;/a&gt;.

O&#039; Vannucci, ma che ridere. Sembra hai il dono per l&#039;humor  di tipo fascista.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578294">Pietro Vannucci</a>.</p>
<p>O&#8217; Vannucci, ma che ridere. Sembra hai il dono per l&#8217;humor  di tipo fascista.</p>
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		By: Rheva Acevedo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 03:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology is in BIG trouble.  All their &#039;ideal&#039; orgs are empty.  Their statistics pathetic.  They&#039;re dependent on their &#039;whales&#039; for the big bucks.  Once they had a goal of &#039;clearing the planet&#039;.  Those of us who thought that an admirable goal joined their ranks.  But when we did, we found out what working for LRH and his organization was REALLY about.  As a result, hundreds and hundreds of us left.  

Anyone who reads these posts needs to know that Scientology is a false religion.  It does not permit self-determination or free speech although it is authorized that you inform on your fellow workers.  Once you join, you are not permitted to leave.  If you manage to escape, you are subjected to punishment, degradation and even stalking.  

If you have personal problems, it would be best if you find a good therapist to resolve them.  Scientology is a trap...a cult...and the only thing they will clear you of is all your savings, your home, and your sanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology is in BIG trouble.  All their &#8216;ideal&#8217; orgs are empty.  Their statistics pathetic.  They&#8217;re dependent on their &#8216;whales&#8217; for the big bucks.  Once they had a goal of &#8216;clearing the planet&#8217;.  Those of us who thought that an admirable goal joined their ranks.  But when we did, we found out what working for LRH and his organization was REALLY about.  As a result, hundreds and hundreds of us left.  </p>
<p>Anyone who reads these posts needs to know that Scientology is a false religion.  It does not permit self-determination or free speech although it is authorized that you inform on your fellow workers.  Once you join, you are not permitted to leave.  If you manage to escape, you are subjected to punishment, degradation and even stalking.  </p>
<p>If you have personal problems, it would be best if you find a good therapist to resolve them.  Scientology is a trap&#8230;a cult&#8230;and the only thing they will clear you of is all your savings, your home, and your sanity.</p>
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		By: Xenu caused the Wall of Fire, not really, but Hubbard wrote that Xenu did this horrible misdeed .......		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xenu caused the Wall of Fire, not really, but Hubbard wrote that Xenu did this horrible misdeed .......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 01:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a red flag Hubbard&#039;s prejudice is against reporters.

I should have never continued in Scientology, after the Guardian&#039;s Office staffer asked me &quot;Are you a reporter&quot; way back in May 1975 when I was a walk in, just checking out Scientology in person for the first time in my life.

My answer to the GO guy was:   &quot;Should I be?&quot;   My actual answer ought to have have been silence, and just walk out and not waste all the years I wasted in Scientology.

After finally leaving Scientology, thankfully others had put the OT Xenu body-thetans exorcism Hubbard writings on the internet so I could finally find out what the OT levels were about.

Hubbard will always be to blame, and all the Hubbard red flags which official Scientology put up, ought be taken seriously, and just quit immediately once something doesn&#039;t smell right.

The anti reporters prejudice of Hubbard&#039;s is enough to quit Scientology alone.

Also, for me, since I wasted 27 years in Scientology, and never learned about the Xenu body-thetans exorcism spiritual practices inside Scientology, all my fault for not getting &quot;up the steps&quot; to do the &quot;confidential&quot; Xenu body-thetans soul exorcism theory, that to me is still a massive reason NOT to learn about Scientology from them.   

Best to learn all about Scientology from the internet and the critical books, to even learn what the Scientologists and Hubbard won&#039;t tell you about Hubbard&#039;s own writings and lectures on the Xenu body-thetans exorcism stuff, which now is thankfully in the public domain.

Hubbard&#039;s reasons for disallowing telling the public about the Xenu body-thetans exorcism soul theory stuff, is reason enough NOT to suffer through years of Scientology to learn about that stuff.

Better to first study the internet and read the critical books and learn what the upper Scientology Xenu body-thetans exorcism/soul-freeing is all about.

Know before you go.  

If past lives therapy sounds legit to you, and if exorcism/soul-freeing procedures to remove/free invisible souls which infest your human body sounds legit, then that&#039;s in a nutshell what the soul practices are of Scientology.   

You have several choices, the one main choice is go do the soul procedures in official Scientology.   Know that the critical books on Scientology are mostly directed at official Scientology by ex official Scientologists.

The other choice is seek out splinter Scientologists and do the soul training and procedures with them.

The other choice is just read up on the Hubbard soul theory and procedures on your own, and &quot;squirrel&quot; (do it unorthodoxly on yourself).

All choices to me I&#039;d never do.   But the splinter Scientologists seem more benign and less likely to grind you up harmfully.

But the quackery soul procedures no matter how you do them, to me, in hindsight, don&#039;t appear legit, and  I for one wish I&#039;d never wasted 27 years not even learning the full details of the Xenu body-thetans exorcism/soul-freeing &quot;upper&quot; part of Scientology which official Scientology will refuse for time immemorial to ever discuss it like outsiders/ex-members who at least will lay out those Hubbard soul procedures and soul theory so you at least have some idea what all the Hubbard steps lead to, supposedly.

Conclusion: Learn about Scientology from the outside, not from official Scientology.  

Chuck Beatty
75 to 03 in the cult]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a red flag Hubbard&#8217;s prejudice is against reporters.</p>
<p>I should have never continued in Scientology, after the Guardian&#8217;s Office staffer asked me &#8220;Are you a reporter&#8221; way back in May 1975 when I was a walk in, just checking out Scientology in person for the first time in my life.</p>
<p>My answer to the GO guy was:   &#8220;Should I be?&#8221;   My actual answer ought to have have been silence, and just walk out and not waste all the years I wasted in Scientology.</p>
<p>After finally leaving Scientology, thankfully others had put the OT Xenu body-thetans exorcism Hubbard writings on the internet so I could finally find out what the OT levels were about.</p>
<p>Hubbard will always be to blame, and all the Hubbard red flags which official Scientology put up, ought be taken seriously, and just quit immediately once something doesn&#8217;t smell right.</p>
<p>The anti reporters prejudice of Hubbard&#8217;s is enough to quit Scientology alone.</p>
<p>Also, for me, since I wasted 27 years in Scientology, and never learned about the Xenu body-thetans exorcism spiritual practices inside Scientology, all my fault for not getting &#8220;up the steps&#8221; to do the &#8220;confidential&#8221; Xenu body-thetans soul exorcism theory, that to me is still a massive reason NOT to learn about Scientology from them.   </p>
<p>Best to learn all about Scientology from the internet and the critical books, to even learn what the Scientologists and Hubbard won&#8217;t tell you about Hubbard&#8217;s own writings and lectures on the Xenu body-thetans exorcism stuff, which now is thankfully in the public domain.</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s reasons for disallowing telling the public about the Xenu body-thetans exorcism soul theory stuff, is reason enough NOT to suffer through years of Scientology to learn about that stuff.</p>
<p>Better to first study the internet and read the critical books and learn what the upper Scientology Xenu body-thetans exorcism/soul-freeing is all about.</p>
<p>Know before you go.  </p>
<p>If past lives therapy sounds legit to you, and if exorcism/soul-freeing procedures to remove/free invisible souls which infest your human body sounds legit, then that&#8217;s in a nutshell what the soul practices are of Scientology.   </p>
<p>You have several choices, the one main choice is go do the soul procedures in official Scientology.   Know that the critical books on Scientology are mostly directed at official Scientology by ex official Scientologists.</p>
<p>The other choice is seek out splinter Scientologists and do the soul training and procedures with them.</p>
<p>The other choice is just read up on the Hubbard soul theory and procedures on your own, and &#8220;squirrel&#8221; (do it unorthodoxly on yourself).</p>
<p>All choices to me I&#8217;d never do.   But the splinter Scientologists seem more benign and less likely to grind you up harmfully.</p>
<p>But the quackery soul procedures no matter how you do them, to me, in hindsight, don&#8217;t appear legit, and  I for one wish I&#8217;d never wasted 27 years not even learning the full details of the Xenu body-thetans exorcism/soul-freeing &#8220;upper&#8221; part of Scientology which official Scientology will refuse for time immemorial to ever discuss it like outsiders/ex-members who at least will lay out those Hubbard soul procedures and soul theory so you at least have some idea what all the Hubbard steps lead to, supposedly.</p>
<p>Conclusion: Learn about Scientology from the outside, not from official Scientology.  </p>
<p>Chuck Beatty<br />
75 to 03 in the cult</p>
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		By: Great site and articles.....		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578339</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Great site and articles.....]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 01:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578168&quot;&gt;Denny Owen&lt;/a&gt;.

Great stuff, great articles you have, thanks much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578168">Denny Owen</a>.</p>
<p>Great stuff, great articles you have, thanks much.</p>
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		By: Pietro Vannucci		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pietro Vannucci]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 22:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578258&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

better to stay in sea org and eat bread and onions, sleep in bunk beds with 15 of them in a room with a bathroom, be threatened, than sell lies out of personal hatred for 4 denarii... ha ha ha ha as you chose rinder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578258">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>better to stay in sea org and eat bread and onions, sleep in bunk beds with 15 of them in a room with a bathroom, be threatened, than sell lies out of personal hatred for 4 denarii&#8230; ha ha ha ha as you chose rinder.</p>
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		By: OTD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OTD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Poynter Institute is highly respected in the milieu of journalism. The haters can keep on hating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Poynter Institute is highly respected in the milieu of journalism. The haters can keep on hating.</p>
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		By: Tori James Art		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tori James Art]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology just makes a lot of propaganda especially on Twitter it us a mess on their side. The amount of accounts and websites Scientology has is insane but you can always tell that they belong to Scientology. 

I didn&#039;t know that Rathbun posting in his blog such a shame he is in the other side.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology just makes a lot of propaganda especially on Twitter it us a mess on their side. The amount of accounts and websites Scientology has is insane but you can always tell that they belong to Scientology. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that Rathbun posting in his blog such a shame he is in the other side.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578169&quot;&gt;Zee Moo&lt;/a&gt;.

Tom To in is still an editor at the Times. Joe us trtired]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-and-the-chaos-merchants/#comment-578169">Zee Moo</a>.</p>
<p>Tom To in is still an editor at the Times. Joe us trtired</p>
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		By: Doug Sprinkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Sprinkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 19:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any opinion why Rathbun has not deleted his negative Scientology posts from hie site?  He now appears to be defending Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any opinion why Rathbun has not deleted his negative Scientology posts from hie site?  He now appears to be defending Scientology.</p>
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