CONGRATULATIONS MIKE!! WE ARE THOUSANDS O MORE WITH YOU.

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Paul J thanks for your comments. I agree with much you stated and I would also say again that there is much to be gained by observing what works in Scientology. Truth is truth and it’s not going away. Historically it can be observed that most splinter groups away from Dianetics and Scientology sought in some way to carry forward some aspects of Scientology that it’s proprietor deemed most useful. Notice that EST or Avatar or anybody else wasn’t trying to perfect the worst aspects of Scientology like overboarding, chain lockers, chain smoking RPF, or disconnection. This is why I regard the actual time line of the organization fascinating. While Hubbard was tweaking things along the way he was also reacting to situations that were somewhat caused by his mistakes or misestimations of effort. I think it’s heartening that people are willing to pick up what has proven to work under practice and discard the rest. I disagree with Hubbard on one thing, a group CAN evolve a workable technology. Hubbard railed against people doing what he actually had done himself, and that is “squirreling” or synthesizing from the previous work of others and recombining the data into a new arrangement that would yield better results. (Or make money from) Fortunately I have gotten to a place where I can appreciate Hubbards accomplishments without being locked into a mental straighjacket whereby I must condemn everything he wrote based on his errors. I wish to thank Mike Rinder for what he is doing in present time to help correct the Scientology organization. I don’t see him attacking the subject or the philosophy at all. I hope Scientologist recognize that what he is doing is helping to shine a light on the very worst aspects and behavior of the organization that is doing to most harm to the very best that Scientology has to actually offer people. The fact that he is accomplishing this, while making it clear that he himself has no desire or aspirations to continue as a Scientologist is actually quite laudable. After all, he could have just simply walked away. But he didn’t and he continues to get on planes and make time in his life away from his family and his livelihood to shine the light every brighter on the abuses as being perpetuated by Miscavige. I don’t see Mike “making up the damage”. He walked away and has spoken clearly from his own conscience on the matter. The fact that he is doing so while having the distinction of being the former spokesperson and officer in OSA, and also subjecting himself and his family to the travails that only an outspoken critic of Miscavige can appreciate, sweeps away and negates his past actions. It’s who we are NOW and what we do NOW that counts.

Thanks for your reply. The person I wanted to address my reply to has the handle of “Spirit”. His post is about the 63rd down from the top (including the reply posts). Actually, his post is a reply post. It’s confusing because of the unusual number of posts on this special day.

I assume that you are reaching out to me. If so, my handle is actually Espiritu.
I am not sure what you are talking about regarding DVDs. You may have me confused with someone else.

In any event, I can see the reply buttons on my computer. But that same thing does happen to me occasionally on this blog. I’m not sure why. I would try refreshing your computer, and if that doesn’t work just post your message here saying “Hi Espiritu”.
I will search for my name and find it your message.

“Greater than” in what sense?

Thanks for the tip!

John, Sorry I don’t think I was clear enough in my response. I’m not suggesting it would detect lying. I was just giving an example of how the therapist and their skill set is the most important part of the equation in any kind of 1:1 counseling. But yes, I believe I understand your point–although it’s impossible for me to return to my basic electronics education, since I have never had any (I guess I learned soldering once in middle school, but that was ages ago, and not really electronics-related in and of itself).