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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-540503&quot;&gt;Fred Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Haha, treadled your way there. What ever it takes!]]></description>
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<p>Haha, treadled your way there. What ever it takes!</p>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 20:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-539940&quot;&gt;Yawn&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;... something that makes you laugh...&quot;

In February, at the end of three physical therapy treatments (all for different reasons while the first one addressed a bicycle fall I had pre-COVID19), I weighed 207 lbs. and didn&#039;t like being slightly overweight. Today, after bicycling nearly 500 miles and dieting, I weigh 178, a weight I&#039;d been meaning to get back to for a few years.

I would call that doing something that makes a 67-year-old man quite happy.

Thanks, Yawn.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;&#8230; something that makes you laugh&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>In February, at the end of three physical therapy treatments (all for different reasons while the first one addressed a bicycle fall I had pre-COVID19), I weighed 207 lbs. and didn&#8217;t like being slightly overweight. Today, after bicycling nearly 500 miles and dieting, I weigh 178, a weight I&#8217;d been meaning to get back to for a few years.</p>
<p>I would call that doing something that makes a 67-year-old man quite happy.</p>
<p>Thanks, Yawn.</p>
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		By: Ursula O'Halloran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ursula O'Halloran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 01:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a brave lady to share her story. She is both intelligent and articulate. I hope her suffering is past and her future is bright. This  blog continues to shine a bright light on abuse. We need to hear these stories to help us understand that everything is not Black and White. More importantly we don&#039;t judge and blame victims. They all deserve that. 

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a brave lady to share her story. She is both intelligent and articulate. I hope her suffering is past and her future is bright. This  blog continues to shine a bright light on abuse. We need to hear these stories to help us understand that everything is not Black and White. More importantly we don&#8217;t judge and blame victims. They all deserve that. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-539897&quot;&gt;Fred Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Fred,
We all have the experience of our lives. It is hopeful that each and everyone of us puts the negative parts of it in perspective &#038; not let it dominate. Keeping busy, doing things you like &#038; creating a future of some sort is universally accepted as a meaningful buffer against those of us that feel and have been betrayed.  
Easier said than done, especially as we get old and the body starts falling to bits.
Hubbard, simply put, was an asshole. He sure could have done things differently, but didn&#039;t and he was fundamentally a dishonest human being. His lies and propaganda produced affects I don&#039;t think even he ever realized the full consequences of as he created them. He went with the flow of vanity and money and believed his own bs. His place in history has been forever cemented into the dark side of the ledger. 
Best to you Fred, do something that makes you laugh. Cheers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-539897">Fred Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Fred,<br />
We all have the experience of our lives. It is hopeful that each and everyone of us puts the negative parts of it in perspective &amp; not let it dominate. Keeping busy, doing things you like &amp; creating a future of some sort is universally accepted as a meaningful buffer against those of us that feel and have been betrayed.<br />
Easier said than done, especially as we get old and the body starts falling to bits.<br />
Hubbard, simply put, was an asshole. He sure could have done things differently, but didn&#8217;t and he was fundamentally a dishonest human being. His lies and propaganda produced affects I don&#8217;t think even he ever realized the full consequences of as he created them. He went with the flow of vanity and money and believed his own bs. His place in history has been forever cemented into the dark side of the ledger.<br />
Best to you Fred, do something that makes you laugh. Cheers&#8230;</p>
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		By: Steph		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is so important to point out the cycle of abuse. This story reminds me so much of my story. I have become so inspired by the survivors of Scientology because of the similarities I see to my own life. 

Child abuse survivors are more likely to be abused later. Domestic abuse, abuse from a cult and I have even worked for a company for many years who abuses their workers in a way that is so similar to the sea org and moving up the bridge. 

Thanks for posting this, Mike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so important to point out the cycle of abuse. This story reminds me so much of my story. I have become so inspired by the survivors of Scientology because of the similarities I see to my own life. </p>
<p>Child abuse survivors are more likely to be abused later. Domestic abuse, abuse from a cult and I have even worked for a company for many years who abuses their workers in a way that is so similar to the sea org and moving up the bridge. </p>
<p>Thanks for posting this, Mike.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 03:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-539757&quot;&gt;Yawn&lt;/a&gt;.

Was there something that Hubbard got (stole) that was right?]]></description>
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<p>Was there something that Hubbard got (stole) that was right?</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 03:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-539763&quot;&gt;Phillip&lt;/a&gt;.

scientologists don&#039;t have friends, only people ho can/will contribute to the cause.  As soon as they no longer can/will contribute, they&#039;re dropped like a hot potato. I see this descending from &quot;on high&quot;, Mr Hubbard while he was on them sweet drugs.]]></description>
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<p>scientologists don&#8217;t have friends, only people ho can/will contribute to the cause.  As soon as they no longer can/will contribute, they&#8217;re dropped like a hot potato. I see this descending from &#8220;on high&#8221;, Mr Hubbard while he was on them sweet drugs.</p>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 23:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-539757&quot;&gt;Yawn&lt;/a&gt;.

Yawn, 

I once replied to a post that ended up as a general comment, so thanks for letting me know about yours.

It looks like we have at least one thing in common: an insane mother. Two things actually: we&#039;re also here utilizing Mike Rinder&#039;s blog.

That you drew your fist back at 14 and threatened to return the violence is something I could never bring myself to do. I&#039;m afraid she had just too much control over me.

My brother is close to me in age; my sister by more than a decade. My brother and I were dealt with rather evenly by my mom, yet I always wondered about my sister.

I could never make myself wear a belt because of the leather one that hung in my father&#039;s closet, an instrument used in carrying out mom&#039;s punishment. I finally talked to my sister about this, and found out that my mom had used that belt on her, and that she, too, couldn&#039;t wear one. That just about broke my heart.

Things changed with my parent&#039;s divorce (which had a lot to do when a doctor gave my dad only 25 years to live: he died at about age 54). With my stepdad there soon arrived a half sister, and I worried about her, too. Until one day when out of the blue, the half sister says to me on a long-distance telephone call: &quot;Hey, Freddie! Do you know what I say to mom every time she calls for me (like she would to set the table, or do the dishes, or take out the trash)? I say: YYYYEEEEESSSSS, DEMON?&quot;

At that moment, my heart sunk into my chest and I thought: And mom let you live with a response like that?

I haven&#039;t spoken a single word to nor have I written a letter to my half sister ever since. What she told me and her carefree demeanor in telling me that put it all into perspective. If there ever was a Suppressive on my case (as one would say in scientology), then my mom fit that bill -- hook, line and sinker.

L. Ron Hubbard certainly had issues, didn&#039;t he?]]></description>
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<p>Yawn, </p>
<p>I once replied to a post that ended up as a general comment, so thanks for letting me know about yours.</p>
<p>It looks like we have at least one thing in common: an insane mother. Two things actually: we&#8217;re also here utilizing Mike Rinder&#8217;s blog.</p>
<p>That you drew your fist back at 14 and threatened to return the violence is something I could never bring myself to do. I&#8217;m afraid she had just too much control over me.</p>
<p>My brother is close to me in age; my sister by more than a decade. My brother and I were dealt with rather evenly by my mom, yet I always wondered about my sister.</p>
<p>I could never make myself wear a belt because of the leather one that hung in my father&#8217;s closet, an instrument used in carrying out mom&#8217;s punishment. I finally talked to my sister about this, and found out that my mom had used that belt on her, and that she, too, couldn&#8217;t wear one. That just about broke my heart.</p>
<p>Things changed with my parent&#8217;s divorce (which had a lot to do when a doctor gave my dad only 25 years to live: he died at about age 54). With my stepdad there soon arrived a half sister, and I worried about her, too. Until one day when out of the blue, the half sister says to me on a long-distance telephone call: &#8220;Hey, Freddie! Do you know what I say to mom every time she calls for me (like she would to set the table, or do the dishes, or take out the trash)? I say: YYYYEEEEESSSSS, DEMON?&#8221;</p>
<p>At that moment, my heart sunk into my chest and I thought: And mom let you live with a response like that?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t spoken a single word to nor have I written a letter to my half sister ever since. What she told me and her carefree demeanor in telling me that put it all into perspective. If there ever was a Suppressive on my case (as one would say in scientology), then my mom fit that bill &#8212; hook, line and sinker.</p>
<p>L. Ron Hubbard certainly had issues, didn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 22:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-539764&quot;&gt;Free Minds, Free Hearts&lt;/a&gt;.

Free  Minds, Free Hearts,

Thank you for your kind words and thoughts.

Today&#039;s blog is instrumental in that I now know why I fell so easily into scientology&#039;s grip. The key word is CONTROL. I had it at home under my parent&#039;s roof. Scientology later provided mountains of control in policy, in particular in the Green and Red Vols.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-eerily-similar-to-domestic-abuse/#comment-539764">Free Minds, Free Hearts</a>.</p>
<p>Free  Minds, Free Hearts,</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind words and thoughts.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s blog is instrumental in that I now know why I fell so easily into scientology&#8217;s grip. The key word is CONTROL. I had it at home under my parent&#8217;s roof. Scientology later provided mountains of control in policy, in particular in the Green and Red Vols.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would have loved to have held out a &quot;HELP!&quot; sign but weirdly, just as in domestic abuse, there is no one who can help - I mean in a deep and meaningful way.  There is initial help but when the lights go out and the cameras turn off, you are sitting there in the wreckage wondering if maybe life might have been better if you would have stayed in the abusive relationship or group.  Regardless of my wreckage and all the pain and suffering of losing my son, I am happy to be free from the abuse and mind control inflicted by scientology. Now it&#039;s up to me to CONTINUE to find the help I need, the friends that understand and a new way of life.  It is an ongoing process and maybe I will get lucky and get my son back into my life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have loved to have held out a &#8220;HELP!&#8221; sign but weirdly, just as in domestic abuse, there is no one who can help &#8211; I mean in a deep and meaningful way.  There is initial help but when the lights go out and the cameras turn off, you are sitting there in the wreckage wondering if maybe life might have been better if you would have stayed in the abusive relationship or group.  Regardless of my wreckage and all the pain and suffering of losing my son, I am happy to be free from the abuse and mind control inflicted by scientology. Now it&#8217;s up to me to CONTINUE to find the help I need, the friends that understand and a new way of life.  It is an ongoing process and maybe I will get lucky and get my son back into my life.</p>
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