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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-214748</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 01:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To add a followup here, the St. Louis ideal org project did not show up in a lineup of US ideal org campaigns in progress in a PR piece put out in March 2018 (and also seems to be missing from Scientology&#039;s website, though there had once been a rendering of what it was supposed to look like when finished), and would appear to fit the description of one that has been completely abandoned, with the building being put up for sale:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add a followup here, the St. Louis ideal org project did not show up in a lineup of US ideal org campaigns in progress in a PR piece put out in March 2018 (and also seems to be missing from Scientology&#8217;s website, though there had once been a rendering of what it was supposed to look like when finished), and would appear to fit the description of one that has been completely abandoned, with the building being put up for sale:</p>
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		By: Hennessy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143590</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hennessy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2016 14:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The amount of money raised piques my interest.  Beginning with 4 million, now up to 12 million and counting.  Does it really cost this much to restore this particular building?  Is there ever any itemization of the ideal org reno costs made public, and is it possible that the money raised for these buildings is actually going to something else?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of money raised piques my interest.  Beginning with 4 million, now up to 12 million and counting.  Does it really cost this much to restore this particular building?  Is there ever any itemization of the ideal org reno costs made public, and is it possible that the money raised for these buildings is actually going to something else?</p>
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		By: Kronomex		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143551</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 23:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143378&quot;&gt;hgc10&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t you mean, &quot;The total cost will never be determined,...&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143378">hgc10</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you mean, &#8220;The total cost will never be determined,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		By: Kronomex		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143550</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 23:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143389&quot;&gt;Harvey&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank (insert name of favourite deity here) they don&#039;t count sperm, if they did their membership would be in the billions. I&#039;d like to see how the regge&#039;s get money out of them. Oh jeez, mind going in strange direction: maybe they&#039;d take them to the sperm bank and make withdrawals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143389">Harvey</a>.</p>
<p>Thank (insert name of favourite deity here) they don&#8217;t count sperm, if they did their membership would be in the billions. I&#8217;d like to see how the regge&#8217;s get money out of them. Oh jeez, mind going in strange direction: maybe they&#8217;d take them to the sperm bank and make withdrawals.</p>
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		By: Kronomex		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kronomex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 23:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143399&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Well, technically, the Loo isn’t the only org...&quot; Do you realise that by using the word &quot;loo&quot; that you are really saying that the Kansas City Org is a toilet? Loo is a slang term here in Australia for toilet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143399">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, technically, the Loo isn’t the only org&#8230;&#8221; Do you realise that by using the word &#8220;loo&#8221; that you are really saying that the Kansas City Org is a toilet? Loo is a slang term here in Australia for toilet.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143484</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143413&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

OSD, if you remove full time staff and only count those on service in a year it would be FAR less that 15,000.  Maybe 5,000]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143413">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>OSD, if you remove full time staff and only count those on service in a year it would be FAR less that 15,000.  Maybe 5,000</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143472</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143445&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

And over half of them declared already. It ain&#039;t safe no place!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143445">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>And over half of them declared already. It ain&#8217;t safe no place!</p>
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		By: Luvitouthere		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143470</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 06:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143469&quot;&gt;Luvitouthere&lt;/a&gt;.

I know my comment is a &quot;duh?&quot;  Lol!  I&#039;m preaching to the converted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143469">Luvitouthere</a>.</p>
<p>I know my comment is a &#8220;duh?&#8221;  Lol!  I&#8217;m preaching to the converted.</p>
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		By: Luvitouthere		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143469</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 06:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143381&quot;&gt;McCarran&lt;/a&gt;.

Scientology takes lying to a whole new level.  Lying to oneself is the major accomplishment.  The koolaiders do it with aplomb, like we all did at one time.  Don&#039;t know if anyone remembers Hubbard saying in one of the PDC lectures, &quot;You should be able to lie.&quot;  I&#039;ve never forgotten it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143381">McCarran</a>.</p>
<p>Scientology takes lying to a whole new level.  Lying to oneself is the major accomplishment.  The koolaiders do it with aplomb, like we all did at one time.  Don&#8217;t know if anyone remembers Hubbard saying in one of the PDC lectures, &#8220;You should be able to lie.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve never forgotten it.</p>
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		By: Lawrence		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143467</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2016 04:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143466&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

Scientologists are not welcome in a lot of places around the world. They cause themselves to become unwelcome with their lies. Saint Louis is no exception. And never will be. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-fail-more-proof/#comment-143466">I Yawnalot</a>.</p>
<p>Scientologists are not welcome in a lot of places around the world. They cause themselves to become unwelcome with their lies. Saint Louis is no exception. And never will be. 🙂</p>
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