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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2024 05:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-groups-get-new-propaganda-site/#comment-582576&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

Scientology can be whatever it needs to be for any person or organization, for any reason or purpose, at any given time.

 When it needs money it is a quid pro quo for hard cash business with NOTHING given away.  

  When it needs protection from the law and reasons for its exploitation of its staff and public, it is a church.  

 When it wants to sign you up as a new public, its an &quot;applied spiritual philosophy&quot; to be accepted or rejected as you see fit, and in the process,  whatever you are,  and whatever you believe is just fine; you can  be a Christian,  Muslim, a Jew, a Hindu, Wiccan or  Druid or an Atheist, and continue as such for the duration of the universe, just sign here, cash or credit card?  

 To the IRS in order to maintain its tax exempt statusi it is a religion with its own specific codified beliefs and practices.    

What do YOU need Scientology  to be?  Rest assured  whatever you need it to be, it will be...for a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-groups-get-new-propaganda-site/#comment-582576">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>Scientology can be whatever it needs to be for any person or organization, for any reason or purpose, at any given time.</p>
<p> When it needs money it is a quid pro quo for hard cash business with NOTHING given away.  </p>
<p>  When it needs protection from the law and reasons for its exploitation of its staff and public, it is a church.  </p>
<p> When it wants to sign you up as a new public, its an &#8220;applied spiritual philosophy&#8221; to be accepted or rejected as you see fit, and in the process,  whatever you are,  and whatever you believe is just fine; you can  be a Christian,  Muslim, a Jew, a Hindu, Wiccan or  Druid or an Atheist, and continue as such for the duration of the universe, just sign here, cash or credit card?  </p>
<p> To the IRS in order to maintain its tax exempt statusi it is a religion with its own specific codified beliefs and practices.    </p>
<p>What do YOU need Scientology  to be?  Rest assured  whatever you need it to be, it will be&#8230;for a while.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2024 05:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-groups-get-new-propaganda-site/#comment-582647&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I started getting dizzy reading An Ex&#039;s  post and the thought occurred to watch out for his/her posts in the future.. skimming down I then read Mike&#039;s comment and realized that An Ex was Sherman-speaking...terrific imitation!  It alsmost put me to sleep, no kidding!  Still laughing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-groups-get-new-propaganda-site/#comment-582647">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I started getting dizzy reading An Ex&#8217;s  post and the thought occurred to watch out for his/her posts in the future.. skimming down I then read Mike&#8217;s comment and realized that An Ex was Sherman-speaking&#8230;terrific imitation!  It alsmost put me to sleep, no kidding!  Still laughing!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2024 04:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...later discovering Scientology as a perfect complement to the poetry and magesty of Judaism.&quot; 

LOL!  This is HILARIOUS!  

May I afford you the opportunity for a hearty laugh also?   Thank you :)

The words of a  Jewish Scientologogist a  former friend of mine (he doesn&#039;t talk to me any more), OTIII back then and OTVIII today, echo in my ears!

 I was low on the Bridge and knew nothing about the OT levels back then.    I recall asking him if his Jewish faith, belief and customs etc.  &quot;meshed&quot; (my term) well with Scientology, and before I was even done asking the question he interrupted me rather impatiently and said,  regarding his Jewish faith and customs,  &quot;I am DONE with all that bad data!&quot;

So much for the &quot;poetry and magesty&quot; of Judaism as regards THIS particular  Jewish Scientologist.  I would opiine that he is far from atypical in this regard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;later discovering Scientology as a perfect complement to the poetry and magesty of Judaism.&#8221; </p>
<p>LOL!  This is HILARIOUS!  </p>
<p>May I afford you the opportunity for a hearty laugh also?   Thank you 🙂</p>
<p>The words of a  Jewish Scientologogist a  former friend of mine (he doesn&#8217;t talk to me any more), OTIII back then and OTVIII today, echo in my ears!</p>
<p> I was low on the Bridge and knew nothing about the OT levels back then.    I recall asking him if his Jewish faith, belief and customs etc.  &#8220;meshed&#8221; (my term) well with Scientology, and before I was even done asking the question he interrupted me rather impatiently and said,  regarding his Jewish faith and customs,  &#8220;I am DONE with all that bad data!&#8221;</p>
<p>So much for the &#8220;poetry and magesty&#8221; of Judaism as regards THIS particular  Jewish Scientologist.  I would opiine that he is far from atypical in this regard.</p>
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		By: unelectedfloofgoofer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2024 03:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their only hope to make a real impact would be to hire some outside ad agencies, but Miscavige would never allow that. He&#8217;ll take the cult down with him, but plans to do it very slowly.</p>
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		By: Quit Fast, per KSW #1, per LRH.....a smart old Mission Staff pointed this gem from Hubbard out.....		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quit Fast, per KSW #1, per LRH.....a smart old Mission Staff pointed this gem from Hubbard out.....]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 18:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology is futile.   They ought just focus on delivering their supernatural quackery, but since the quackery doesn&#039;t make supernatural Scientologists, then Hubbard starts blaming, and focuses on who to blame.

But this counters his top level KSW principles where he says it&#039;s wrong to blame the outside.  Instead do the quackery correctly and stomp out the splinter quackery which isn&#039;t as orthodox as Hubbard&#039;s official quackery. 

So what to do?

Quit fast.  Per the LRH challenge in KSW:   &quot;....if they are going to quit let them quit fast.....&quot;

Quit.  The only sensible path.  

Cite KSW #1 when you &quot;....quit fast...&quot; and say it&#039;s what LRH challenged.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology is futile.   They ought just focus on delivering their supernatural quackery, but since the quackery doesn&#8217;t make supernatural Scientologists, then Hubbard starts blaming, and focuses on who to blame.</p>
<p>But this counters his top level KSW principles where he says it&#8217;s wrong to blame the outside.  Instead do the quackery correctly and stomp out the splinter quackery which isn&#8217;t as orthodox as Hubbard&#8217;s official quackery. </p>
<p>So what to do?</p>
<p>Quit fast.  Per the LRH challenge in KSW:   &#8220;&#8230;.if they are going to quit let them quit fast&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Quit.  The only sensible path.  </p>
<p>Cite KSW #1 when you &#8220;&#8230;.quit fast&#8230;&#8221; and say it&#8217;s what LRH challenged.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 12:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-groups-get-new-propaganda-site/#comment-582650&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

Lovely!]]></description>
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<p>Lovely!</p>
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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 12:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-groups-get-new-propaganda-site/#comment-582647&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok. :)

In the hallowed halls of our sacred institution, where the luminous beacon of truth shines ever bright, we have embarked upon a journey of enlightenment — a journey that has led us to a profound revelation, a revelation that reverberates through the very fabric of existence.

For after extensive survey and meticulous study, we have arrived at a conclusion — a conclusion that may come as no surprise to those who have witnessed the tumultuous currents of our time. We stand at the precipice of a world besieged by its own formidable adversaries—the deadly Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

&lt;b&gt;Wherefore&lt;/b&gt;, they are Addiction, Immorality, Inequality, and Despair — four harbingers of chaos and discord, whose insidious influence knows no bounds. Like a relentless plague, they sweep across the lands, sparing neither high nor low, rich nor poor.

These malevolent forces recognize no creed, bow to no authority, and heed no boundaries of nation or creed. They are tireless in their pursuit, unyielding in their resolve, and relentless in their quest to sow seeds of destruction and despair.

But fear not, for we stand as guardians of truth and champions of righteousness. &lt;b&gt;Given that &lt;/b&gt;we are armed with the timeless wisdom and unwavering principles of Scientology, we shall confront these adversaries with unwavering courage and unyielding determination.

For in the crucible of adversity, we discover the true measure of our strength. And as we unite in purpose and solidarity, we shall vanquish these Horsemen of the Apocalypse, casting them into the abyss from whence they came.

&lt;b&gt;Wherefore&lt;/b&gt;, together, let us march forth with resolute hearts and indomitable spirits, for we are the torchbearers of hope and the architects of a brighter tomorrow.

&lt;b&gt;Given that&lt;/b&gt; we stand in the name of Scientology, let us stand firm against the forces of darkness, and usher in an era of enlightenment and salvation for all mankind.]]></description>
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<p>Ok. 🙂</p>
<p>In the hallowed halls of our sacred institution, where the luminous beacon of truth shines ever bright, we have embarked upon a journey of enlightenment — a journey that has led us to a profound revelation, a revelation that reverberates through the very fabric of existence.</p>
<p>For after extensive survey and meticulous study, we have arrived at a conclusion — a conclusion that may come as no surprise to those who have witnessed the tumultuous currents of our time. We stand at the precipice of a world besieged by its own formidable adversaries—the deadly Horsemen of the Apocalypse.</p>
<p><b>Wherefore</b>, they are Addiction, Immorality, Inequality, and Despair — four harbingers of chaos and discord, whose insidious influence knows no bounds. Like a relentless plague, they sweep across the lands, sparing neither high nor low, rich nor poor.</p>
<p>These malevolent forces recognize no creed, bow to no authority, and heed no boundaries of nation or creed. They are tireless in their pursuit, unyielding in their resolve, and relentless in their quest to sow seeds of destruction and despair.</p>
<p>But fear not, for we stand as guardians of truth and champions of righteousness. <b>Given that </b>we are armed with the timeless wisdom and unwavering principles of Scientology, we shall confront these adversaries with unwavering courage and unyielding determination.</p>
<p>For in the crucible of adversity, we discover the true measure of our strength. And as we unite in purpose and solidarity, we shall vanquish these Horsemen of the Apocalypse, casting them into the abyss from whence they came.</p>
<p><b>Wherefore</b>, together, let us march forth with resolute hearts and indomitable spirits, for we are the torchbearers of hope and the architects of a brighter tomorrow.</p>
<p><b>Given that</b> we stand in the name of Scientology, let us stand firm against the forces of darkness, and usher in an era of enlightenment and salvation for all mankind.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 11:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-front-groups-get-new-propaganda-site/#comment-582601&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

Perfect duplication! Just add a couple of “wherefores” and “given that’s”…]]></description>
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<p>Perfect duplication! Just add a couple of “wherefores” and “given that’s”…</p>
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		By: Xenu's R6 Body-Thetans OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 exorcism/soul-freeing actually is Hubbard's biggest scam--"snipe hunting"......		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xenu's R6 Body-Thetans OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 exorcism/soul-freeing actually is Hubbard's biggest scam--"snipe hunting"......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 23:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deflecting front group bag holders, deflecting off of the core Hubbard cult scam of exorcising Xenu&#039;s R6 implanted body-thetans on OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7.

Front groups of Hubbard&#039;s, deflect off of the core Hubbard long runway scam quackery operation.  

Hubbard just overbuilt his cult on so many &quot;fronts&quot; which temporarily befuddled and confuse and deflect off of the core Xenu body-thetans exorcism/soul-freeing &quot;serious&quot; mission of the whole Hubbard empire.

It&#039;s all not successfully happening  as Hubbard falsely claimed, naturally.

What does one expect of a quackery cult?  

Hail Xenu&#039;s body-thetans shower on all OSA staffers reading this, and remember OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are just more and more exorcism of Xenu&#039;s body-thetans you missed!    That so much continued exorcism is done, tells much as to Hubbard&#039;s final beliefs of what was keeping people supposedly harnessed up.  Hubbard&#039;s exorcism is the final biggest scam, it&#039;s snipe-hunting.  (Knowing the Hubbard exorcism OT 3, 4, 5, 5 and 7 steps, compared to psychiatry, you can also see why Hubbard deflected, deflected, deflected, it&#039;s policy now, all Scientologist bag holders continue to deflect, just like Hubbard ordered.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deflecting front group bag holders, deflecting off of the core Hubbard cult scam of exorcising Xenu&#8217;s R6 implanted body-thetans on OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7.</p>
<p>Front groups of Hubbard&#8217;s, deflect off of the core Hubbard long runway scam quackery operation.  </p>
<p>Hubbard just overbuilt his cult on so many &#8220;fronts&#8221; which temporarily befuddled and confuse and deflect off of the core Xenu body-thetans exorcism/soul-freeing &#8220;serious&#8221; mission of the whole Hubbard empire.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all not successfully happening  as Hubbard falsely claimed, naturally.</p>
<p>What does one expect of a quackery cult?  </p>
<p>Hail Xenu&#8217;s body-thetans shower on all OSA staffers reading this, and remember OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are just more and more exorcism of Xenu&#8217;s body-thetans you missed!    That so much continued exorcism is done, tells much as to Hubbard&#8217;s final beliefs of what was keeping people supposedly harnessed up.  Hubbard&#8217;s exorcism is the final biggest scam, it&#8217;s snipe-hunting.  (Knowing the Hubbard exorcism OT 3, 4, 5, 5 and 7 steps, compared to psychiatry, you can also see why Hubbard deflected, deflected, deflected, it&#8217;s policy now, all Scientologist bag holders continue to deflect, just like Hubbard ordered.)</p>
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		By: Xenu caused the Wall of Fire, the best short simple definition of Xenu.....		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I got into Scientology, in May 1975, I wanted the spiritual practices of Scientology.

NOT the front group stuff.

I presumed the spiritual practices of Scientology were the fix up for a person, person by person, thus fix the world.

Just do the Scientology &quot;auditing&quot; (quack pseudo-therapy) between people, one person to the other, train up how to do it, and just do it, and thus fix or spiritually unleash another person to regain their supernatural soul powers!

Simple.

That&#039;s it.

But this whole anti psychology/psychiatry, the other front group efforts, weren&#039;t the spiritual practices, they are after thought things.   Maybe to be done and participated in by the OT 8 highest advanced spiritually accomplished Scientologists, when they get to the end of the Hubbard spiritual lineup!

The lineup is so long, that I highly highly believe at NO time did those front groups consist of anyone but a fraction of the OT 8 Scientologists!

IN my whole time in Scientology, and to today, there is a fraction of the movement in &quot;good standing&quot; who have reached OT 8, the top.

Hubbard&#039;s runway is so long, so restrictive, at so many parts in the runway one gets blocked, and Hubbard had his minions lie constantly about &quot;unblocking&quot; things so people could reach the OT 8 top levels.

No, the front groups have always been a side effort, for all the never-reached-OT-8 club of Scientologists to land and think they are doing some good in the whole Hubbard scheme/scam.

The core of Scientology was the spiritual betterment, supposedly.  Getting up to the Xenu body-thetans exorcism/soul-freeing off of oneself, to unleash one&#039;s supernatural abilities.

Never happened, never happens, thus the Hubbard cult empire is just a long runway scam of never reachers to the falsely promised supernatural powers the Hubbard quackery was supposed to deliver to the &quot;paid public.&quot;

&quot;Paid Public&quot;

People who were just non staff &quot;public&quot; were &quot;Paid Public.&quot;

I was a lower than that in hindsight, I see now.   I was a dupe staffer servicing the &quot;Paid Public&quot;.

Hubbard&#039;s cult no one should ever join, at any level.

Chuck Beatty
ex mainly Sea Org paperpusher cult bureaucrats training department staffer in my most productive years in the Hubbard cult.  1975 to 2003]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I got into Scientology, in May 1975, I wanted the spiritual practices of Scientology.</p>
<p>NOT the front group stuff.</p>
<p>I presumed the spiritual practices of Scientology were the fix up for a person, person by person, thus fix the world.</p>
<p>Just do the Scientology &#8220;auditing&#8221; (quack pseudo-therapy) between people, one person to the other, train up how to do it, and just do it, and thus fix or spiritually unleash another person to regain their supernatural soul powers!</p>
<p>Simple.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>But this whole anti psychology/psychiatry, the other front group efforts, weren&#8217;t the spiritual practices, they are after thought things.   Maybe to be done and participated in by the OT 8 highest advanced spiritually accomplished Scientologists, when they get to the end of the Hubbard spiritual lineup!</p>
<p>The lineup is so long, that I highly highly believe at NO time did those front groups consist of anyone but a fraction of the OT 8 Scientologists!</p>
<p>IN my whole time in Scientology, and to today, there is a fraction of the movement in &#8220;good standing&#8221; who have reached OT 8, the top.</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s runway is so long, so restrictive, at so many parts in the runway one gets blocked, and Hubbard had his minions lie constantly about &#8220;unblocking&#8221; things so people could reach the OT 8 top levels.</p>
<p>No, the front groups have always been a side effort, for all the never-reached-OT-8 club of Scientologists to land and think they are doing some good in the whole Hubbard scheme/scam.</p>
<p>The core of Scientology was the spiritual betterment, supposedly.  Getting up to the Xenu body-thetans exorcism/soul-freeing off of oneself, to unleash one&#8217;s supernatural abilities.</p>
<p>Never happened, never happens, thus the Hubbard cult empire is just a long runway scam of never reachers to the falsely promised supernatural powers the Hubbard quackery was supposed to deliver to the &#8220;paid public.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Paid Public&#8221;</p>
<p>People who were just non staff &#8220;public&#8221; were &#8220;Paid Public.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was a lower than that in hindsight, I see now.   I was a dupe staffer servicing the &#8220;Paid Public&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s cult no one should ever join, at any level.</p>
<p>Chuck Beatty<br />
ex mainly Sea Org paperpusher cult bureaucrats training department staffer in my most productive years in the Hubbard cult.  1975 to 2003</p>
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