Espiritu, Well done for coming up to present time and you are welcomed in this new and better group. You are KSW by only giving your energy to the group that practices standard tech. Carry on!

Back in the ’80s,while on the SHSBC ,I did a lot a session recordings. I used a big vhs recorder and a tripod. Before the session, I would make very, very certain the PC was ok with it. If not I’d turn the camera off or pull the recording rig out of the auditing room. After session, my twin and the Sup were the ones who watched it, and we made sure no one else did. Afterwards the tape was erased. I don’t recall if there is any LRH on the subject. it seems like we just used The Auditors Code and common sense. Video is a good tool if handled correctly. (Now, with micro-technology and DM at the helm, I don’t want to think about it . . .)

“MSH, in my opinion, was the heroine in this whole affair. She protected LRH so, because she was protecting Scientology and its future. She fell on her own sword and was ostracized by DM and his clones for doing it.” Yes Odd Thomas, Mary Sue Hubard was a heroine. She was only applying the Simon Bolivar policy that her husband wrote and doing what he said to do to flow power to power and to save Scientology. And for that she got nothing but heartache. It’s so sad what happened to her. DM had a big hand in it as he controlled the comm into and from LRH and he wouldn’t let any of MSH’s letters get to LRH. And LRH was stupid to blame it all on her and not realize she was trying to save him and the church.

Not only are the auditing sessions recorded, but at Flag the MAA sessions with public are recorded, without the public’s knowledge. And they have look in capability where someone on the other end sees and hears your MAA cycle and tells the MAA things in their ear to tell you what to do etc

knatherthomas —

“…LRH saw the Snow White debacle blow back on the Church as a personal betrayal of him by Mary Sue.”

You’re not the first person on this blog to mention betrayal, LRH and Mary Sue in the same sentence. I’m still at a loss, after all these years, to understand why LRH looked to MSH as someone who betrayed him specifically in regards to this program

I was at GO WW when the proverbial shit hit the fan, i.e. summer of 1977, moments after the US raid took place. I got a crash-course indoctrination into what Snow White was about by having to dive in and redact hundreds of documents. My opinion – I am absolutely certain, based on what I personally read, what I heard 2nd and 3rd hand from 20 different sources at WW, and what I could extrapolate from all of the above — that LRH had a direct hand in and/or knew about Snow White and its aims from the very beginning.

Did it evolve beyond what he wrote, said, advised, suggested — perhaps. I have no data to confirm or refute this. All I know is what I personally observed, and in my opinion he was the driving force behind a program designed to find the source(s) of the false data, third party, malicious rumors, and should-be-suppressed truths about SCN.

For years I had problems with this piece of my time track and how it affected my view of SCN, LRH and everyone at GO WW at that time. I recently started to unravel what my attention was actually on.

Please keep in mind, I saw some of the documents coming in from the IRS, Interpol and other sources at that time 1976-1978. Some of this stuff was purely works of fiction. Reports depicting SCN rituals involving copious amount of LSD, sex orgies and animal sacrifices – I kid you not. So I understand why they generated such emotions. But I am certain there were accurate reports as well. Hell, some ended up as evidence in the Trials.

But all of this came to a head for me after watching a recent episode of GPS (Global Public Square) on Sunday mornings, CBS. The host had on a high-level former NSA head and he articulated an idea I had rattling around for years. Of Course he used recent examples of the NSA’s data gathering programs that targeted ally governments, like Britain, Germany, and others.

If you are a President, Prime Minister, or Chancellor, and specifically ask for very detailed information, very detailed information about a certain person, agency or activity, you MUST take into account and consider HOW that information is REALISTICALLY going to be attained.

In other words, you cannot ask for specific information about highly confidential subjects, that are restricted to just a very few possible sources, (including bugged phones) and then be completely shocked when that information is revealed to have been attained through questionable means.

Yes, there is plausible deniability, but is that what we are discussing here with LRH and Snow White? Whoever put Snow White into effect, who thought copies of restricted documents could be obtained, current confidential information could be gathered, all by simply asking the gov’t for it, (in Pre-Freedom of Information Act days), well, those persons were delusional. If you want a copy of a document or information that is NOT available in public records and you get it, then it came from someone’s file cabinet, computer or briefcase. To think otherwise is dangerously naive.

Snow White was a ticking time bomb that blew Scientology completely off course and started 35 years of a dwindling spiral within the Church. It sent LRH into exile, David Miscavige into power and relegated thousands of auditors and quality people into the Gulags.

MSH, in my opinion, was the heroine in this whole affair. She protected LRH so, because she was protecting Scientology and its future. She fell on her own sword and was ostracized by DM and his clones for doing it.

Anyway, didn’t intend to ramble on so — it just happened.

Odd

Hey AM, I dont like seeing generalized LRH bashing either, so much of it is false, such as the attempt to discredit his war record. I wouldnt check in here if this blog did that. Keep up the good work!

In order to get a person of conscience to harm others, to lie to others, to steal, they must also somehow consider their victims as deserving of mistreatment or must totally lack conscience.

People of conscience usually wake up after a while and realize they’ve been harming others. Eventually, the only ones surviving in a criminal activity are those who have no conscience – sociopaths – and those unable to question AUTHORITY.

Fundraising in the Church of Scientology is directed by a sociopath – David Miscavige – so naturally the results are dehumanization, financial ruin and the making of criminals.

I saw this too, and it seemed to me an incredible case of a young woman experiencing the hopelessness and despair of Scientology DIsconnection and taking her life as a result. Any information you can get about this event Jane Doe would be incredibly valuable. This is the kind of sad event that draws attention to the vicious practice of disconnection and trail of broken lives it leaves in its path.

Mike has has indicated on a number of occasions if you want to bash LRH or Scientology to take it over to ESMB or similar toilets.