CeCe, Rogge is blaming you for not doing enough to handle the criminal El Ron for placing the criminal DM in a position of power in Church management. And after El Con died he is blaming you for not rearranging CST, CSI & RTC upper management posts from your post at AOLA.

In other words, Rogge is an insane troll.

Great summation Roger. El Con touted Scn as a scientific OBJECTIVE thing. As it turned out, not a single significant objective gain/ability (which were the major selling points of scn & dianetics) that Flubbard promised turned out to be obtainable using his “tech”.

Thus, you now have CoS (cult of scientology) members falling back on what El Con said Scn was NOT. A purely subjective subject and experience (aka “wins”).

Sorry for the commlag! The word “nothing” is of course incorrect.

What I mean is that “we simply didn’t do enough” (including myself).

If we had done so, the psycho DM simply wouldn’t be where he is. I see that as an very obvious fact, but thats my way to see it.

Sure Rogge, as soon as YOU have the integrity & guts to honestly to answer the question put to you DAYS ago above. Until then my Troll detection meter is banging off the dial when it sees your posts…

I think your question is a vital one, Rogge, largely because it begs the question, “What is a ‘WIN’?” Is it more than, “I cognited some horse shit and now I feel EUPHORIC, everybody!” ?

I have walked out of auditing sessions feeling like a million bucks. I have gone “exterior” doing TR’s. I have felt a certain species of self-confidence from thinking I’m superior to those “wogs”. Study tech? Nada. None of that could I take to the bank literally or figuratively over the long haul.

Here’s what made a real difference for me: taking that course in logic and critical thinking at GSU after I quit scientology. Also, getting a college degree at the age of 45, after a series of Herculean efforts. It made me realize I could accomplish way more than I ever thought I could simply by applying myself. A little cosmetic dentistry helped too.

Hi IYawnalot,You nailed it! Slave SO Appreciation is the highest OT Tone Scale Level Known!Ann.

I agree, WhatWall. Excepting those UTRs merely pretending to be on board due to fear of disconnection and loss in their Scientology-dependent businesses, I’m with you that after all these years of relentless alteration the ones still in are deeply hypnotized and will go down with the ship.

Yep, you summed it up well with those stat/product recommendations.
I did one internship in an SO Org way back in the 80s. I was never allowed to finish the practical. It took a major crow bar to pry me out of there by my Org exec’s at the time. I’d still be there today if that hadn’t happened I reckon. The intern sup, (held by Qual from above) simply refused to sign off. So that disease was rife way back then too.
“Ain’t it grand to be appreciated?” (as slave labour)

Exactly 2 years after the GAG II boom was lowered on the orgs for staff to drop everything in their lives and hie themselves IMMEDIATELY to Flog for retraining, the fun begins again.

Once more the pressure will be enormous on the orgs to send the required amount of OOTs because it is Command Intention.

Once more the OOT candidates will be promised that they’ll only be at Flog for 6 weeks “if even that”, and once more they’ll be kept 6 months and fired back at the end of this coming December IF they’re lucky.

How would Danny Sherman phrase it if he were on our side?

“‘Command Intention’, which, of course , is just another way of saying, ‘The Church of Scientology, spearheading in proven ways its own assured demise – creatively , effectively, indefatigably.'”