Hey Hallie,

The sad thing about the CCs is that they BECAME elitist. I wasn’t there in the late ’60s but Pat Gualtieri was (where is that guy anyway?), as were most of the CC staff up until the 80s and early 90s. When it started it was a place of multi-colored carpets, art happening all the time – poetry, music, acting – and anyone could participate.

Yvonne Jenzch (Heber’s wife who died of cancer), promoted the beauty of the arts. She LOVED artists (as I’ve heard) and had HUGE ARC and respect for artists. I’ve been told that she’d be having a conversation with someone and one of her staff would come up and try to interrupt. She’d say, “Excuse me, darling, but let me get back to you later, I’m talking to one of the artists.” She would bend over backwards to help them get ahead. Ask John Travolta.

She is the one who originated CC to LRH. “Wouldn’t it be great to have an org which catered to the needs of the artist?” Ron said, “Yes, go do it!” haha. 🙂 Man of action.

But get the inflection there. “Catered to the needs of artists.” Not manipulating them for gain. At least that seemed to be her intention.

On the other hand, welcome to the last 20 years or so – Pamela Lancaster Johnson. Who is she connected to that she gets to stay? Not only that, but she was married to a non-SO member and didn’t have to leave the SO.

If there is an SP at CC, there’s my vote. She has told artists, “Why don’t you join the SO? You’re wasting your time as an artist because you’re not going to make it this lifetime anyway.” True story. She said that to a friend of mine.

To another friend, she said, “Your dead parents would be ashamed of you…” because she wouldn’t contribute or join the SO. WTF?? My friend went out of there with tears in her eyes.

What a bitch. Not Biatch, bitch.

I knew that we were in trouble in the 90’s when they took Yvonne’s picture off the wall of the lobby.

Since Pamela and removing the spirit of Yvonne out, it’s been elitist and yucky.

Those are my thoughts.

Yes, the LI Centre is still located on Tottenham Court Road but pretty much empty. Towards the end of 2008 it boasted a Fdn crew of between 2-4 staff at any given time and the Day compliment was very slightly more. In the dozen or so times I’ve been past since then I have never seen more than 2 people evident there, either during Day or Fdn hours. On a couple of occasions the doors have actually been closed with no sign of life whatsoever – and this being around lunchtime or early afternoon time. I believe the bill for renovating this empty palace (it was the main org building between 1969 – 2006) was around £1/4m.
The FB page images do not include any Fdn staff faces from what I can see. Certainly all the ones I recognize are Day terminals but these are not all of them either. The shoot must have been done VERY early on a summer weekday for them to have been able to have such a clear street. Possibly around 6am. Most, if not all of the Day staff commute from East Grinstead so these guys are probably only the ones who could travel up that early or who had arranged to stay over in London the previous night. If it had been done at the weekend then surely a few Fdn crew would have been persuaded to show up a bit earlier too. So these are the desperate few who think that arty posing in the middle of the road and trying to look cool or tough or whatever the intention is here, it’s going to make a difference. Well, I’m sorry but all I get from this is desperation and pretentiousness. The only image that works on their FB page (assuming you’re trying to attract people) is the one of the girls on the staircase.
There are certainly a few more staff in London than these images suggest though. They’re probably just not as tough and dedicated as these guys are.
The image posted at the top is definitely not Fitzroy Street, as has been asserted in one of the comments here. It looks like New Cavendish Street which is where I believe the CC relocated a couple of years back.
All in all, quite sad and pathetic. Wake up fence people! You’ve got to at least be in Doubt to have observed so many gross and glaring outpoints and not to have written up something.

Moonshot, I”m sorry to hear you were mistreated financially by your business partner. Unfortunately this has happened to several in Scn, and the Rex Fowler case was very public and high profile in the news. Now that you are out and declared an SP? (are you), how about suing the former partner? It would do two things: It would put justice and ethics in on him since the church obviously won’t do it, and it may get you all or part of your money back, and it would help bring light on the vulture culture of money money money to pay for Bridge and donos and Ideal everything, and I’m sure Tony Ortega would pick it up and give it air time, which all helps bring down DM sooner. What do you say? Lawsuit time?

Hallie Jane, yes I agree everyone should be audited on same terms as others. But that’s now done at Flag and at CC’s. At Flag they put one high up on the org board person one on one with the celeb (Kelly Preston, John’s wife for one) and hire or bring in a ringer who reads really well on the meter to hold the cans, and so with these two bolstering up the person doing the emeter drills, they get through it faster. And they take word clearers off post, which leaves the rest of the entire course room hanging, to have them sit right next to the celeb on course so that they’ll be there if they have an MU etc. So LRH references on “do not give special treatment to celebs or media” were not only ignored but the opposite was done. Just more proof that under DM, money is king, and money buys you out of your ethics trouble and it buys you preferrential treatment. When DM finally goes to jail, I wonder if all his money will prevent him from becoming some inmate’s personal bitch?

There were detailed instructions from LRH on the tone level of every line. And exactly how every word was to be said.

Originally, the intention had been for Fred Hare to record it as he sounded similar to LRH. He did the first version of it I think.

But the Jeff Pomerantz version was micromanaged by Miscavige — he had to approve every single take and then the entire edit once it was done.

Ulf may even have been around for that…

Funny Indie 8 Mill. Yes, Larry is probably glad to live that one down. The other thing I refused to give out was the “Can We Ever Be Friends” CD. The voice on it creeped me out. But I heard from the narrator of it, Jeff Pomeranz, that LRH (or DM if it was after 1982?) had specific instructions on how to read those lines, the tone level to do it in, the exact words to say really loudly, the big pauses in awkward places. There was a whole theory of how this would “go in” and “sink in” much more effectively to the listener. When I head him explaining all about this to me, it sounded to me like the purpose was to implant the listener.

Mike I left a reply for Indie 8mill but don’t see it so I”ll post again. Disregard this if the earlier one shows up. Re Nichole Simms, when the stolen money from the account against the parishoner’s wishes (by her) was discovered years later, Nichole had blown AOLA by that time and the SO who were left instructed my friend to “write a KR” on Nichole and she did, but nothing ever came of it. Nichole eventually married the guy she went out 2D with while married to Harold Sims in the SO. Harold took the breakup of his marriage so hard that he had a nervous breakdown over it and died mostly from a broken heart. Nichole’s last name now is something like Wheedon and last I heard she works at Management Success, a Scn company.

Wow. Really, Jane? I didn’t know that. I’ve been seeing her around town and she does seem really MWD’y. Oh well. It’s her karma. Good luck with that Nicole.

Yes. That’s why God made hushmail.