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		By: Becky		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-605346</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Becky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2025 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597742&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s amazing to me how the members continue to ignore what is going on right under their noses.  Don&#039;t they understand that having a &quot;band&quot; of attorneys costs money?  I assume then that they don&#039;t mind having their money wasted instead of being used for a better purpose.  Oh how blinded they are.  Hopefully someday this will all end and that &quot;church&quot; will be history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597742">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing to me how the members continue to ignore what is going on right under their noses.  Don&#8217;t they understand that having a &#8220;band&#8221; of attorneys costs money?  I assume then that they don&#8217;t mind having their money wasted instead of being used for a better purpose.  Oh how blinded they are.  Hopefully someday this will all end and that &#8220;church&#8221; will be history.</p>
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		By: unelectedfloofgoofer		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-598236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[unelectedfloofgoofer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2024 09:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We can only dream of Biden doing the right thing, and ordering someone to do something against this evil cult. He easily could, and has nothing to lose anyway. If Trump were then to decide to kiss Miscavige&#039;s ass and call off the feds, that might even help the Democrats. 
Of course none of this will happen, Evil will be allowed to win again like it always does. That&#039;s just how the system works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can only dream of Biden doing the right thing, and ordering someone to do something against this evil cult. He easily could, and has nothing to lose anyway. If Trump were then to decide to kiss Miscavige&#8217;s ass and call off the feds, that might even help the Democrats.<br />
Of course none of this will happen, Evil will be allowed to win again like it always does. That&#8217;s just how the system works.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LoosingMyReligion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2024 04:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-598116&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

Done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-598116">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>Done.</p>
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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AnEx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2024 23:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-598021&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello LMR, Nice to see you chip in. 

I wouldn&#039;t want to publish my real email address here but you could email me at MarieP@mail2tor.com (that email address will only be active for about the next two weeks) and I will then reply to you.

AnEx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-598021">LoosingMyReligion</a>.</p>
<p>Hello LMR, Nice to see you chip in. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to publish my real email address here but you could email me at <a href="mailto:MarieP@mail2tor.com">MarieP@mail2tor.com</a> (that email address will only be active for about the next two weeks) and I will then reply to you.</p>
<p>AnEx</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2024 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597742&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

My Dear friend An Ex and how can we forget others Alfredo Biondi, Daria Pesce, Fabrizio D’Agostini, Giuliano Pisapia, Alessio Lanzi, Luigi Vanni, Sebastiano Scatà, Giuliano Spazzali, and then Raffaele Della Valle at the Milano trial. 
If I remember well all they had gone to the US - and Leale - to talk to Miscavige and Ratburn and had been told that the funds were unlimited.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597742">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>My Dear friend An Ex and how can we forget others Alfredo Biondi, Daria Pesce, Fabrizio D’Agostini, Giuliano Pisapia, Alessio Lanzi, Luigi Vanni, Sebastiano Scatà, Giuliano Spazzali, and then Raffaele Della Valle at the Milano trial.<br />
If I remember well all they had gone to the US &#8211; and Leale &#8211; to talk to Miscavige and Ratburn and had been told that the funds were unlimited.</p>
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		By: Glenn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597743&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Mark; the cult definitely has the mantra that it is far superior to the wog world and uses it to justify its sidestepping oh so much, especially morality, laws and human decency.  We are the answer to all mankinds troubles and ills so must be permitted to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING it takes to cure society&#039;s of all it&#039;s troubles. PUKE!  

I worked with all of the Hubbard family and I now look back on on the fact that only one of them, Diana, is still in the cult today.  The rest left long ago and I am certain they are very happy they did.  I think it is an interesting stat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597743">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Mark; the cult definitely has the mantra that it is far superior to the wog world and uses it to justify its sidestepping oh so much, especially morality, laws and human decency.  We are the answer to all mankinds troubles and ills so must be permitted to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING it takes to cure society&#8217;s of all it&#8217;s troubles. PUKE!  </p>
<p>I worked with all of the Hubbard family and I now look back on on the fact that only one of them, Diana, is still in the cult today.  The rest left long ago and I am certain they are very happy they did.  I think it is an interesting stat.</p>
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		By: Scooter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597717&quot;&gt;Geoff&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s a great idea Geoff but

Unless the person has some personal experience of the kult&#039;s behaviour it&#039;s usually unreal to the person who&#039;s about to get stonewalled by a kultie.

As I said in my previous post, I&#039;ve educated a lot of peeps on the kult and they usually don&#039;t get it. But once they&#039;ve had an encounter with Hubbardian &quot;handling&quot;, they are ready for the truth.

One example was a journo who interviewed me then went to the local org to talk to OSAbots. I&#039;d pre-warned her but she didn&#039;t &quot;get&quot; it. She rang me after and was hesitant to tell me what the OSAbots had said to her. So I told her what I reckon they would have said.

She was gobsmacked. Because I gave her almost word-for-word what she&#039;s been given. THEN I told her that they have to say that because that&#039;s what&#039;s in the Sacred Scriptures of $cientology. Now she got it and did a good article. But she couldn&#039;t get it before until she&#039;d actually encountered a read live kultie.

Your mileage may vary but that&#039;s what I&#039;ve experienced when I was very active trying to get media interested in the kult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597717">Geoff</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great idea Geoff but</p>
<p>Unless the person has some personal experience of the kult&#8217;s behaviour it&#8217;s usually unreal to the person who&#8217;s about to get stonewalled by a kultie.</p>
<p>As I said in my previous post, I&#8217;ve educated a lot of peeps on the kult and they usually don&#8217;t get it. But once they&#8217;ve had an encounter with Hubbardian &#8220;handling&#8221;, they are ready for the truth.</p>
<p>One example was a journo who interviewed me then went to the local org to talk to OSAbots. I&#8217;d pre-warned her but she didn&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; it. She rang me after and was hesitant to tell me what the OSAbots had said to her. So I told her what I reckon they would have said.</p>
<p>She was gobsmacked. Because I gave her almost word-for-word what she&#8217;s been given. THEN I told her that they have to say that because that&#8217;s what&#8217;s in the Sacred Scriptures of $cientology. Now she got it and did a good article. But she couldn&#8217;t get it before until she&#8217;d actually encountered a read live kultie.</p>
<p>Your mileage may vary but that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve experienced when I was very active trying to get media interested in the kult.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 18:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597610&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Glenn, the &quot;fact&quot; that they are the only ones saving the universe means that &quot; homo-sap-meat-sack considerations&quot; about laws, ethics, morality, and decency don&#039;t apply to them-ever. In a &quot;race against time&quot;, they can and do do whatever they want to...and the rest of us can simply fuck off.
So &quot;theta&quot;, eh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-lawyers-and-litigation/#comment-597610">Glenn</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Glenn, the &#8220;fact&#8221; that they are the only ones saving the universe means that &#8221; homo-sap-meat-sack considerations&#8221; about laws, ethics, morality, and decency don&#8217;t apply to them-ever. In a &#8220;race against time&#8221;, they can and do do whatever they want to&#8230;and the rest of us can simply fuck off.<br />
So &#8220;theta&#8221;, eh?</p>
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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AnEx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 17:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this article. First ever that the legal puppets of the cult have been laid out in so much detail. 

The European contingent also has:
 
Giovanni Leale, Rafael Burgos Perez, Gonzalo Fresneda Martinez, Fabrizio D&#039;Agostini, Isabel Ayuso Puente, Luz Almeida Castro, Alexander Petz and Oppenhejm.

AnEx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article. First ever that the legal puppets of the cult have been laid out in so much detail. </p>
<p>The European contingent also has:</p>
<p>Giovanni Leale, Rafael Burgos Perez, Gonzalo Fresneda Martinez, Fabrizio D&#8217;Agostini, Isabel Ayuso Puente, Luz Almeida Castro, Alexander Petz and Oppenhejm.</p>
<p>AnEx</p>
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		By: Geoff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Given that SCN tactics are so well known and so brazenly open that we can almost predict what they are going to do, would it not be best to produce a guide that can be offered on what they will do and how to counter it? If what Mike says is true that they follow LRH policies to the letter without deviation then the combined knowledge of ex-SCN should be enough to put forward an action plan that will thwart, counter, obfuscate SCN and ensure that all parties (Judges, lawyers etc) are ready to go. The old adage &quot;Forewarned is forearmed&quot; could never be truer with SCN.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that SCN tactics are so well known and so brazenly open that we can almost predict what they are going to do, would it not be best to produce a guide that can be offered on what they will do and how to counter it? If what Mike says is true that they follow LRH policies to the letter without deviation then the combined knowledge of ex-SCN should be enough to put forward an action plan that will thwart, counter, obfuscate SCN and ensure that all parties (Judges, lawyers etc) are ready to go. The old adage &#8220;Forewarned is forearmed&#8221; could never be truer with SCN.</p>
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