Thanks, Richard. I can’t – I don’t want to – imagine doing these processes for “endless” hours. These poor people – OMG. I am so glad, so deeply thankful to be out of there.

Maybe the still ins are better off – if they have to get fleeced and scammed – maybe they’re better off NOT being able to afford auditing due to being pressured so much for IAS and Ideal Morgue donations, you know?

Maybe they’re better off being “cheated” of these services. Better off NOT training as auditors,better off NOT GETTING AUDITED if they’re going to be receiving or God help them DELIVERING this – whatever it is – Golden Age of Insanity-Creating Crap. What a mind fuck!

Aqua – Maybe you and I were on the lower bridge before Miscavige squirreled it for whatever reasons. I think there is now a “Survival Rundown” with MANY objectives and students are required to co-audit on it for endless hours. I haven’t been able to locate a current “Classification and Gradation Chart”.

Thank you all for your responses.

Richard, that’s how I remember my Objectives auditing. Not a lot of time spent on each CCH. I don’t remember exactly how many of them there were – 5 maybe?
Anyway I don’t understand what the Objectives are today in that people share about the processes they did going on for MONTHS. Such a length of time would necessitate scores of intensives! More processes HAD to have been added. I’m confused. Oh, well.

It would seem that the further away from Hubbard and the sea org the better. I got out in 1982 before he ramped up the sea org and tightened the grip. Maybe he decided scn was growing too fast and wanted to slow things down so he could maintain absolute control. Who knows.

Overrun – When I delivered the objectives in the 1970’s they weren’t a grind and most people could honestly say they got some benefit. Back then dianetic auditing came before the grades. I was an interned dianetic auditor and doing auditor training on the grades when the monthly price increases resumed which caused me to split. This might explain the discrepancy from my recollection to that of other people.

As I recall, at least in introductory auditing, there were four or possibly eight CCH objective processes. A few hours were spent on them and then we moved on. For never-ins, CCH stands for Communication Control Havingness and an example would be “Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. Touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. . . . repeat”. Out of context it sounds stupid but there is theory behind it, although some people might say it’s programming. Anyhow, I’ve always been highly resistant to being “controlled”. I don’t recall what realizations I might have had when I did the objectives, but no doubt it had an “effect” – haha.

One time I dated a gal who apologetically admitted to me that when she was a kid she made her younger brother call her “Master” and made him do some of her chores. That guy probably had some issues with being controlled.

I Yawnalot – Thanks for the write up. It gives me an idea of how things degenerated over time. After I left Scn in 1982 I never followed what was going on in Scn until watching “Going Clear” got me interested. Students asking you for relief from regges is sad. I suppose things went sour gradually over time and people adjusted. Even with the internet exposing Scn, maybe some of the lower level “processes” survive and some people are still getting some “wins” despite all the obstacles which keeps them hanging around, but that’s just one small part of the picture and a guess.

Overrun in CA

I had two wins on my 4 th round of TRs and OBJs in 6 years.

It cost me $59,650 for the purify, sec checks and retreads….plus IAS donations of $175,000 for my wins

But

I now have complete knowingness that….YES…..Birds do fly

And

Hell yes….Fish do swim !

Thank you, Sir, for the tech!

So theta!

Harvey Dent – lol ?
That was hysterical and a $cientologically spot on answer. Now ….the rest of you….drop and give me 20…..thousand dollars as your amends for squirreling and giving us verbal tech ?