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		By: OhNo!		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scamology has been safe under EVERY President since Bush I.  Trump&#039;s admin will be no different than the past 5 Presidents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scamology has been safe under EVERY President since Bush I.  Trump&#8217;s admin will be no different than the past 5 Presidents.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2024 16:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-safe-in-us-for-4-years/#comment-597091&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Ciao Aqua, I hope you got that email address I sent you recently. Let me now. Stay well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-safe-in-us-for-4-years/#comment-597091">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Ciao Aqua, I hope you got that email address I sent you recently. Let me now. Stay well.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Safepointing is essentially criminal behavior.]]></description>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Comments, I see exchanges concerning the overt relationship between Grant &#038; Elena Cardone and Donald Trump. 

Two things I observed during the last few years (when Trump was not in office) are 1) Trump was a revered Interview Guest on-stage with Grant at one of Cardone&#039;s massive &quot;10X&quot; summits; and 2) the Cardone&#039;s initiated a &quot;Go Fund Me&quot; campaign to pay for Trump&#039;s legal bills. 

This second one was so odd. Those of us Previous-Ins know the credo around &quot;No charity!&quot; If you reward a downstatistic, you only will engender a further decline. 

Also, both the Cardone and Trump households tout that they are billionaires. The Go Fund Me platform is typically employed by individuals with limited or no resources to underwrite their documentary film, produce a CD of their music, or pay off medical debt. I found it be AN OUTPOINT of magnitude that a billionaire household was orchestrating a Go Fund Me campaign for a fellow billionaire household. 

This tact begs the question.... Why don&#039;t the handful of billionaire households who endorse Trump simply come together (quietly) and write him a check? Or better yet why doesn&#039;t the self-proclaimed Upstat Trump (quietly) (and efficiently) pay his own bills? 

There is LRH financial policy on a person addressing their own obligations, and PTSness or &quot;being a magnet for trouble&quot; is not an excuse. A justification perhaps but certainly no excuse. To not take responsibility for one&#039;s own condition is assigning oneself the status of &#039;Victim&#039; (complete effect) and a big No-No to anyone practicing Scientology. 

Bringing me back to what an outpoint that Grant &#038; Elena Cardone—two OT 8&#039;s, right?—would seek to bypass Trump in this way. If they bypass Trump, wouldn&#039;t that de facto put Trump in the condition of &#039;Danger&#039;? Who is the Div 5 Qual officer for Grant &#038; Elena to guide their actions and make sure they are operating in a strictly pro-survival on-policy fashion? [Rhetorical question, of course.] Or I know... the Cardone&#039;s must be employing, &quot;Purpose is Senior to Policy,&quot; the refrain oft heard from IAS fundraisers to get you to dismiss Standard Finance Policy of &quot;Do not spend any money not in the bank&quot; and, instead, put your donations on credit cards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Comments, I see exchanges concerning the overt relationship between Grant &amp; Elena Cardone and Donald Trump. </p>
<p>Two things I observed during the last few years (when Trump was not in office) are 1) Trump was a revered Interview Guest on-stage with Grant at one of Cardone&#8217;s massive &#8220;10X&#8221; summits; and 2) the Cardone&#8217;s initiated a &#8220;Go Fund Me&#8221; campaign to pay for Trump&#8217;s legal bills. </p>
<p>This second one was so odd. Those of us Previous-Ins know the credo around &#8220;No charity!&#8221; If you reward a downstatistic, you only will engender a further decline. </p>
<p>Also, both the Cardone and Trump households tout that they are billionaires. The Go Fund Me platform is typically employed by individuals with limited or no resources to underwrite their documentary film, produce a CD of their music, or pay off medical debt. I found it be AN OUTPOINT of magnitude that a billionaire household was orchestrating a Go Fund Me campaign for a fellow billionaire household. </p>
<p>This tact begs the question&#8230;. Why don&#8217;t the handful of billionaire households who endorse Trump simply come together (quietly) and write him a check? Or better yet why doesn&#8217;t the self-proclaimed Upstat Trump (quietly) (and efficiently) pay his own bills? </p>
<p>There is LRH financial policy on a person addressing their own obligations, and PTSness or &#8220;being a magnet for trouble&#8221; is not an excuse. A justification perhaps but certainly no excuse. To not take responsibility for one&#8217;s own condition is assigning oneself the status of &#8216;Victim&#8217; (complete effect) and a big No-No to anyone practicing Scientology. </p>
<p>Bringing me back to what an outpoint that Grant &amp; Elena Cardone—two OT 8&#8217;s, right?—would seek to bypass Trump in this way. If they bypass Trump, wouldn&#8217;t that de facto put Trump in the condition of &#8216;Danger&#8217;? Who is the Div 5 Qual officer for Grant &amp; Elena to guide their actions and make sure they are operating in a strictly pro-survival on-policy fashion? [Rhetorical question, of course.] Or I know&#8230; the Cardone&#8217;s must be employing, &#8220;Purpose is Senior to Policy,&#8221; the refrain oft heard from IAS fundraisers to get you to dismiss Standard Finance Policy of &#8220;Do not spend any money not in the bank&#8221; and, instead, put your donations on credit cards.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 19:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[President Trump has a history of making bad choices. (Kenneth Copeland as a religious advisor being a case in point. At least it wasn&#039;t DM.) At some point he should turn on the Cardones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Trump has a history of making bad choices. (Kenneth Copeland as a religious advisor being a case in point. At least it wasn&#8217;t DM.) At some point he should turn on the Cardones.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 19:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All this Trump commentary made me think about a MAD magazine parody of The Wizard of Oz called “The Wizard of Odds” done sometime in the 1990s. In it, Dorothy and her house are carried by a tornado into the 1990s where she encounters a land inhabited by selfish yuppies. The Good Witch of the North (played by Vanna White) tells Dorothy that she has to go to Ephemeral City and talk to the Wizard of Odds about being sent back to 1939. Along the way she encounters the Scarecrow who’s out of work, the Tin Woodman who feels rejected because he’s not chrome plated and the Cowardly Lion who’s about to become extinct. They get to Ephemeral City(after an encounter with Tammy Faye, the Righteous Witch of the West who tries to offer them salvation for various prices) and meet the Wizard of Odds who turns out to be Donald Trump. He rejects their initial wishes and substitutes them with unethical, dishonest and blatantly immoral replacements. I wish I could find the article somewhere but I do remember the song at the end which began something like:
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f3b6.png" alt="🎶" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />We’re glad we found the Wizard!
The Wonderful Wizard of Odds!
He is, he is a wiz of a wiz!
So what if he rips off clods?<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f3b6.png" alt="🎶" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />

If anyone can locate that parody, please let us know. It’s both hilarious and appropriate!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this Trump commentary made me think about a MAD magazine parody of The Wizard of Oz called “The Wizard of Odds” done sometime in the 1990s. In it, Dorothy and her house are carried by a tornado into the 1990s where she encounters a land inhabited by selfish yuppies. The Good Witch of the North (played by Vanna White) tells Dorothy that she has to go to Ephemeral City and talk to the Wizard of Odds about being sent back to 1939. Along the way she encounters the Scarecrow who’s out of work, the Tin Woodman who feels rejected because he’s not chrome plated and the Cowardly Lion who’s about to become extinct. They get to Ephemeral City(after an encounter with Tammy Faye, the Righteous Witch of the West who tries to offer them salvation for various prices) and meet the Wizard of Odds who turns out to be Donald Trump. He rejects their initial wishes and substitutes them with unethical, dishonest and blatantly immoral replacements. I wish I could find the article somewhere but I do remember the song at the end which began something like:<br />
🎶We’re glad we found the Wizard!<br />
The Wonderful Wizard of Odds!<br />
He is, he is a wiz of a wiz!<br />
So what if he rips off clods?🎶</p>
<p>If anyone can locate that parody, please let us know. It’s both hilarious and appropriate!</p>
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		By: Inspector		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump’s presidency shifted the media’s attention almost entirely onto him, effectively pulling the spotlight away from Scientology. Before this, Scientology faced years of relentless scrutiny, starting in 2009 with The Truth Rundown published by the Tampa Bay Times, Debbie Cook’s email, the release of Going Clear and its 2015 documentary adaptation, as well as the series The Aftermath. These were major blows for David Miscavige and Scientology.

However, once Trump entered office, the media’s near-exclusive focus on him allowed Scientology to slip out of the public eye, sparing it from further significant attention or criticism.  So, over the next four years, it’s likely that the diminished interest in Scientology will continue, as the media remains preoccupied with him...

Take care Mike!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump’s presidency shifted the media’s attention almost entirely onto him, effectively pulling the spotlight away from Scientology. Before this, Scientology faced years of relentless scrutiny, starting in 2009 with The Truth Rundown published by the Tampa Bay Times, Debbie Cook’s email, the release of Going Clear and its 2015 documentary adaptation, as well as the series The Aftermath. These were major blows for David Miscavige and Scientology.</p>
<p>However, once Trump entered office, the media’s near-exclusive focus on him allowed Scientology to slip out of the public eye, sparing it from further significant attention or criticism.  So, over the next four years, it’s likely that the diminished interest in Scientology will continue, as the media remains preoccupied with him&#8230;</p>
<p>Take care Mike!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2024 21:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-safe-in-us-for-4-years/#comment-597133&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Will do, Mark, thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-safe-in-us-for-4-years/#comment-597133">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Will do, Mark, thanks.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2024 21:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-safe-in-us-for-4-years/#comment-597134&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Honestly, Mark?  He is what he is. and he is who he is.   That he has actually been  RE- elected via not only the Electoral College but with a clear majority vote to me says  who we really are as a country,  who and what we are as Americans.  For 8 years I&#039;ve been reading that people like me live in a bubble, that people like me don&#039;t know the real America, that we neither know or understand real Americans, etc.    I didn&#039;t believe it, couldn&#039;t perhaps.  I thought I knew the real America today.   Well, I didn&#039;t. 
 they were right and I was wrong.  Its that simple.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-safe-in-us-for-4-years/#comment-597134">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Honestly, Mark?  He is what he is. and he is who he is.   That he has actually been  RE- elected via not only the Electoral College but with a clear majority vote to me says  who we really are as a country,  who and what we are as Americans.  For 8 years I&#8217;ve been reading that people like me live in a bubble, that people like me don&#8217;t know the real America, that we neither know or understand real Americans, etc.    I didn&#8217;t believe it, couldn&#8217;t perhaps.  I thought I knew the real America today.   Well, I didn&#8217;t.<br />
 they were right and I was wrong.  Its that simple.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2024 21:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-safe-in-us-for-4-years/#comment-597135&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed in part but they&#039;re not HIS policies. He doesn&#039;t really have any policies.  All he will be doing is holding rallies and entertaining his worshippers, &quot;truthing&quot; his untruths and outright lies via stream of consciousnessness inane/non-sequitur/vulgar crap, and providing fodder for endless clicks benefitting the various media both pro Trump and anti Trump  spewing out endless praise, cesure,  speculation as to what he really means, speculation as to what could be the consequences to the US and the world, etc. if he actually follows thru with whatever threats he happens to be making in the early morning hours, etc., etc., and on and on about him ad nauseum, informing us not at all about what we actually need to know.  
The Trump Show is our 21st century Corn and Games.    He is the bright shiny object to be dangled in front of us for the next 4 years to delight, entertain, amuse, bore, repel,  disgust and utterly horrify us so that our attention is one way or another captured while Project 2025 gets implemented. 

 Steve Bannon came right out and explained the stratagem: &quot;Flood the media with shit&quot;.  That&#039;s waht he said, exactly and that&#039;s what they&#039;ve been doing for the past 8 years and that&#039;s what they have planned for the next 4 years.  I made up my mind, though,  I won&#039;t be watching, reading or listening to the Trump Shit Show, and its not sour grapes because Harris lost.  Its because I realized that paying attention to this is a waste of time.  I&#039;m not going to learn anything.  Admittedly, I am horrified.  I never thought I&#039;d be embarrassed to be an American, but I&#039;m embarrassed and ashamed now.  And horrified.  So that makes me owned, I suppose.  OK, I admit it.  I&#039;m owned.  But also because I see the game, I&#039;m also bored.  Is it possible to be both horrified and bored?  Maybe I&#039;m just bored of being horrified.  I think that&#039;s it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-safe-in-us-for-4-years/#comment-597135">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed in part but they&#8217;re not HIS policies. He doesn&#8217;t really have any policies.  All he will be doing is holding rallies and entertaining his worshippers, &#8220;truthing&#8221; his untruths and outright lies via stream of consciousnessness inane/non-sequitur/vulgar crap, and providing fodder for endless clicks benefitting the various media both pro Trump and anti Trump  spewing out endless praise, cesure,  speculation as to what he really means, speculation as to what could be the consequences to the US and the world, etc. if he actually follows thru with whatever threats he happens to be making in the early morning hours, etc., etc., and on and on about him ad nauseum, informing us not at all about what we actually need to know.<br />
The Trump Show is our 21st century Corn and Games.    He is the bright shiny object to be dangled in front of us for the next 4 years to delight, entertain, amuse, bore, repel,  disgust and utterly horrify us so that our attention is one way or another captured while Project 2025 gets implemented. </p>
<p> Steve Bannon came right out and explained the stratagem: &#8220;Flood the media with shit&#8221;.  That&#8217;s waht he said, exactly and that&#8217;s what they&#8217;ve been doing for the past 8 years and that&#8217;s what they have planned for the next 4 years.  I made up my mind, though,  I won&#8217;t be watching, reading or listening to the Trump Shit Show, and its not sour grapes because Harris lost.  Its because I realized that paying attention to this is a waste of time.  I&#8217;m not going to learn anything.  Admittedly, I am horrified.  I never thought I&#8217;d be embarrassed to be an American, but I&#8217;m embarrassed and ashamed now.  And horrified.  So that makes me owned, I suppose.  OK, I admit it.  I&#8217;m owned.  But also because I see the game, I&#8217;m also bored.  Is it possible to be both horrified and bored?  Maybe I&#8217;m just bored of being horrified.  I think that&#8217;s it.</p>
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