If it is all about “priest-penitent trust”, as they claim in their most recent FALSE REPORT entered into the court records, WHY are there video cameras in all of the auditing rooms now?

Has Corporate Scientology ever, since its inception, released an apology letter of any sort, no matter how trivial?

Jeff

My guess is that this could well have been written by sometime PR person and full time “D list” Scientology outside attorney Gary Soter, who is probably itching for work after his stellar performance in the Debbie Cook case and other recent cult litigation losses. It might also have been a Pat Harney production. But FWIW, this one is almost certainly not Sherman.

It was happening in the Sea Org between staff in the 90’s. I know because it happened to me. I was getting SEC CHECKED on OTHER PEOPLE! YES! Sec checked on what I knew about other staff!

I became a sort of ” go to” figure for staff in trouble or staff wanting to “natter” (I didn’t write KR’s on them) or staff wanting to leave or whatever. I didn’t have issues giving staff money to leave or for airlines tickets and I didn’t turn on people if they wanted to leave or had a gripe.

One day I am routed to an auditing room and there it starts! I am getting sec checked on what I might know about other people!!!!!!!!!!!! The sec checks weren’t even about ME! I started getting sec checked on OTHERS!

For instance: (After “I am not auditing you” r factor)

Has ______ mentioned anything to you about leaving?
Do you know of any problems _________ might be having?
Did ________ have anything negative to say about the Sea Org?

My theory was this, If the auditor sitting across from me could look at me with a straight face and say, “I am not auditing you”, then “Start of session”. I could sit there and look back with the ides that I wasn’t really getting auditing, therefore not obligated to act like any P.C. or wear that hat, and the abracadabra was a two way street.

Did I ever know anything? No. 🙂

That whole system was pretense. And it went BOTH WAYS. A waste of my time. A waste of the sec checker’s time.

I never agreed in any way to have the emeter used on me to investigate other people. Not before during or after the Sea Org. Those people had shifted to some other planet with purposes for the emeter.

Once those P.C. folders are opened in a court of law and people can see for themselves how those emeters are being used in the Church, (For interrogations and thier own justice, NOT as religious device as they claim before the high courts) it is going to be ANOTHER FLAP.

Also be aware, Phsycometry is still NEW and a field of science with vast applications. The Church has/is more or less used and using psychometry to abuse people at this point and practically run the science into the ground by now. The only place you find it being used, even out in the world, is by the Justice Department for lie detectors and stress tests in investigations. Not in any form of therapy. Psychometry is a wholly different field of science and application far removed from Scientology. In fact, psychometry was first widely dissemintated in the late 1940’s by Clause Bristol long before an emeter was ever used in Scientology. Hubbard imported it into his research but it was already known about and even being used by others. Psychometry is NOT a Scientology or Hubbard baby. It has been around since the early 1900’s.

The Church is not authorized to use them as lie detectors and in investigative procedures to police people. There are REAMS of official documents the Church filed attesting over and over again these are used as “Religious devices” for HEALING and HOLY purposes.

Right here. on their OWN web site they say about the meter: “The needle reactions on the E-Meter tell the auditor where the charge lies, and that it should be addressed through auditing.”

http://www.scientology.org/faq/scientology-and-dianetics-auditing/what-is-the-emeter-and-how-does-it-work.html

So when they set it up and say, “I am NOT auditing you”…….!!!!!!!!!

Take PHOTOS of this web site!

The sect restricts the use of the E-meter to trained Scientologists, treating it as “a religious artifact used to measure the state of electrical characteristics of the ‘static field’ surrounding the body”. The meter, when used by a trained Scientologist, is claimed to reflect or indicate whether or not a person has been relieved from spiritual impediment of past experiences. Officials within Scientology assert that the E-meter is intended for use only in sect-sanctioned auditing sessions and is in itself not a curative or medical device.

It is also NOT supposed to be used to interrogate people or as an “internal justice device”. This is a HUGE with hold of the Church of Scientology!

Every legal challenge they had to overcome to be able to USE this emeter legally, is invalidated when the systems for it’s current use are laid out in a courtroom.

ANYONE who was tortured in ANY WAY through the use of these along the lines of punishment or justice has a legal claim.

“And what about the Sec Checks that begin with, the auditor saying, “I am not auditing you.”

This alone is evidence that the emeter is used as an interrogation tool and invalidates every claim the Church has made legally and in documents as to their use of the emeter and it’s purposes.

They are NOT legally permitted to use the emeter for purposes of interrogation. Did you know that? Go research their legal docs and claims for the emeter.

Silvia, and the church fails to mention that untrained MAA’s see their folders too and the auditor KR’s from the auditing.

Yes Aeolus! You couldn’t have said it better. Say it again and again for all the world to hear.

Thanks for the clarification and data Conan. I see your point. I had been in Scn for decades before I found out that even the Flag Ethics rooms are wired and recorded. And get this, since they are now using only very young, green MAA’s who are new to Scn and new to Ethics, and did I mention very young? (maleable and controllable and untrained other than in an instant or maybe even full hat of their post if they’re lucky.) So since these young ones are so untrained in Scn, the ones I had had ear phone buds in their ears and were communicated to by ear plugs that you had to look hard to see, the other more senior HCO were viewing the whole thing behind the electronics set up and were telling this person what to say. And the young MAA could communicate to them with typing on the computer. It didn’t take me long to see all this. And I know they share personal pc information with everyone and their dog because I’ve experienced it. Certain buttons, things that were your achilles heel in auditing, your ruin, were brought up outside of session by registrars trying to close you to “go to Flag” or “buy more auditing” or whatever. They even made up stories of “other parishoners who had such and so problem, (coincidentally the exact same problem you have), these others bought the auditing and now are living happily ever after with ____” Fill in the blank with the button they culled from your folders to use against you. And if you ever dare to leave the church or dare to speak out, the folders are culled again for bad things they can make public about you in a smear campaign to black PR you. I read Vicki Aznaran’s deposition where she said it was one of her jobs to cull the folders to find dirt on pcs to be used against them and she also culled folders to omit and get rid of evidence from pc’s sessions that made the church look bad. Non stop shredding going on etc. I believe Vicki. Unfortunately the church got to her and waved a ton of money under her nose and then she mysteriously “recanted” later after she got the hush money payoff. This is what our IAS war chest buys.