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		By: concerned citizen		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-165119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[concerned citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2017 16:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[so shocking to read considering its been reports that members inside the sea org have their letters read and they have no phone number to be reached at, you must call a main phone number and if you do succeed in getting through to them they have a &quot;handler&quot; coaching them on how to respond. if a member is going to visit a relative nonscientologist, they are coached on how to respond to criticism...and if the criticism is too negative influenced to completely cut off the family member...including their own children.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so shocking to read considering its been reports that members inside the sea org have their letters read and they have no phone number to be reached at, you must call a main phone number and if you do succeed in getting through to them they have a &#8220;handler&#8221; coaching them on how to respond. if a member is going to visit a relative nonscientologist, they are coached on how to respond to criticism&#8230;and if the criticism is too negative influenced to completely cut off the family member&#8230;including their own children.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-165043</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164568&quot;&gt;Idle Morgue&lt;/a&gt;.

Idle Morgue, that link does NOT give the ID of the person]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164568">Idle Morgue</a>.</p>
<p>Idle Morgue, that link does NOT give the ID of the person</p>
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		By: Notmy realname		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164939</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Notmy realname]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2017 04:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164545&quot;&gt;secretfornow&lt;/a&gt;.

Not me ! ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164545">secretfornow</a>.</p>
<p>Not me ! ?</p>
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		By: Kass Arthur		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164807</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kass Arthur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 14:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164805&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

the IRS giveth and the IRS taketh away]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164805">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>the IRS giveth and the IRS taketh away</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164805</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 14:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164586&quot;&gt;Idle Morgue&lt;/a&gt;.

Idle, the IRS &#038; FBI have no power to declare something like the CoS NOT a church.  See the U.S. Const. for more details.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164586">Idle Morgue</a>.</p>
<p>Idle, the IRS &amp; FBI have no power to declare something like the CoS NOT a church.  See the U.S. Const. for more details.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164803</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 14:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164772&quot;&gt;Jens TINGLEFF&lt;/a&gt;.

Jens, in the US, if the data is publicly available or freely given, anyone has an innate natural right to copy and store such data.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164772">Jens TINGLEFF</a>.</p>
<p>Jens, in the US, if the data is publicly available or freely given, anyone has an innate natural right to copy and store such data.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens TINGLEFF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(not sure anyone else brought it up)

In some countries, there is a legal obligation on organisations gathering information to declare what they gather on whom.

I give you: COSRECI and their all-purpose data slurp: https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/Z7365741

To me, this reads more like them dutifully ticking the boxes available. All the boxes available...

(And, yes, it&#039;s an interesting question whether one can get one&#039;s information removed, as is a requirement by the law; anecdotally not an easy task ....)

Type/classes of information processed

We process information relevant to the above reasons/purposes. This may include:

    personal details
    family details
    lifestyle and social circumstances
    membership details
    goods and services
    financial details
    education and employment details
    visual images, personal appearance and behaviour


We also process sensitive classes of information that may include:

    physical or mental health details
    racial or ethnic origin
    religious or other beliefs of a similar nature
    offences and alleged offences
    criminal proceedings, outcomes and sentences
    trade union membership

Who the information is processed about

We process personal information about:

    members
    staff, volunteers
    supporters
    complainants, enquirers
    advisers
    representatives of other organisations
    individuals captured by CCTV images]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(not sure anyone else brought it up)</p>
<p>In some countries, there is a legal obligation on organisations gathering information to declare what they gather on whom.</p>
<p>I give you: COSRECI and their all-purpose data slurp: <a href="https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/Z7365741" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/Z7365741</a></p>
<p>To me, this reads more like them dutifully ticking the boxes available. All the boxes available&#8230;</p>
<p>(And, yes, it&#8217;s an interesting question whether one can get one&#8217;s information removed, as is a requirement by the law; anecdotally not an easy task &#8230;.)</p>
<p>Type/classes of information processed</p>
<p>We process information relevant to the above reasons/purposes. This may include:</p>
<p>    personal details<br />
    family details<br />
    lifestyle and social circumstances<br />
    membership details<br />
    goods and services<br />
    financial details<br />
    education and employment details<br />
    visual images, personal appearance and behaviour</p>
<p>We also process sensitive classes of information that may include:</p>
<p>    physical or mental health details<br />
    racial or ethnic origin<br />
    religious or other beliefs of a similar nature<br />
    offences and alleged offences<br />
    criminal proceedings, outcomes and sentences<br />
    trade union membership</p>
<p>Who the information is processed about</p>
<p>We process personal information about:</p>
<p>    members<br />
    staff, volunteers<br />
    supporters<br />
    complainants, enquirers<br />
    advisers<br />
    representatives of other organisations<br />
    individuals captured by CCTV images</p>
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		By: Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164689</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164667&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly Cindy, it has become the ultimate witch hunt and I have seen no precedent for that especially within the scn community who are not on staff or in the SO. Never before have I seen where the public have been targeted so viciously. It will ultimately bring down the church along with all the bad PR. Yes, witch hunts happened in the SO and maybe in the orgs, but usually it was very much more localized and once it got it&#039;s foot in the door it was usually stopped. I am so sorry you have lost 2 kids in this. It is just awful and really is the reason I decided to come forward and speak out. As much as people like to demonize LRH and yes, it is his policies, but they are being used so robotically it drives me crazy.......there is even a policy to NOT use policy to STOP. Scn is very different from what I knew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164667">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly Cindy, it has become the ultimate witch hunt and I have seen no precedent for that especially within the scn community who are not on staff or in the SO. Never before have I seen where the public have been targeted so viciously. It will ultimately bring down the church along with all the bad PR. Yes, witch hunts happened in the SO and maybe in the orgs, but usually it was very much more localized and once it got it&#8217;s foot in the door it was usually stopped. I am so sorry you have lost 2 kids in this. It is just awful and really is the reason I decided to come forward and speak out. As much as people like to demonize LRH and yes, it is his policies, but they are being used so robotically it drives me crazy&#8230;&#8230;.there is even a policy to NOT use policy to STOP. Scn is very different from what I knew.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164544&quot;&gt;secretfornow&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent points, Secret and Lois.  The church isn&#039;t even following their own HCOB&#039;s and HCOPL&#039;s and LRH written things.  It&#039;s all so arbitrary now and you can&#039;t even demand that the staff follow LRH because that would be a for sure declare.  The church doesn&#039;t even have to put out goldenrod anymore.  All they do is have HCO say to your friends, FB, work associates, family, that you are &quot;no longer in good standing&quot; whatever that means nowadays.  They don&#039;t bother to tell you why or even that you are no longer in good standing (at least in my case it was that way.)  But with no goldenrod in hand, no written ethics order or SP Declare, all my Scn people including my two kids, disconnected me just on the &quot;no longer in good standing&quot; thing.  It is the witch hunt that LRH warned against in the &quot;The AntiSocial Personality&quot; bulletin.  The church took my best friend and had her spy on me for 3 months to get dirt on me.  They had her ask how I felt about my son being recruited for the SO and that was reported (to see if I was &quot;CI&quot; or counter intention to it.)  They had her spy to see if I said anything that was &quot;natter&quot; or &quot;disaffection&quot; against the church.  So finally when she confronted me on &quot;do this or I&#039;ll disconnect from you...&quot; she said she&#039;d written a KR on me.  I asked why she hadn&#039;t given me a copy of it per policy?  I forced her to give me the copy.  When I got it, the date it was written was 3 months earlier.  She had been spying for 3 months on me... I won&#039;t bore you with all the details... but yes the definition of &quot;in good standing&quot; has changed and is purely arbitrary.  And with that alone, a whispering campaign can oust you without even having to write the goldenrod.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164544">secretfornow</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent points, Secret and Lois.  The church isn&#8217;t even following their own HCOB&#8217;s and HCOPL&#8217;s and LRH written things.  It&#8217;s all so arbitrary now and you can&#8217;t even demand that the staff follow LRH because that would be a for sure declare.  The church doesn&#8217;t even have to put out goldenrod anymore.  All they do is have HCO say to your friends, FB, work associates, family, that you are &#8220;no longer in good standing&#8221; whatever that means nowadays.  They don&#8217;t bother to tell you why or even that you are no longer in good standing (at least in my case it was that way.)  But with no goldenrod in hand, no written ethics order or SP Declare, all my Scn people including my two kids, disconnected me just on the &#8220;no longer in good standing&#8221; thing.  It is the witch hunt that LRH warned against in the &#8220;The AntiSocial Personality&#8221; bulletin.  The church took my best friend and had her spy on me for 3 months to get dirt on me.  They had her ask how I felt about my son being recruited for the SO and that was reported (to see if I was &#8220;CI&#8221; or counter intention to it.)  They had her spy to see if I said anything that was &#8220;natter&#8221; or &#8220;disaffection&#8221; against the church.  So finally when she confronted me on &#8220;do this or I&#8217;ll disconnect from you&#8230;&#8221; she said she&#8217;d written a KR on me.  I asked why she hadn&#8217;t given me a copy of it per policy?  I forced her to give me the copy.  When I got it, the date it was written was 3 months earlier.  She had been spying for 3 months on me&#8230; I won&#8217;t bore you with all the details&#8230; but yes the definition of &#8220;in good standing&#8221; has changed and is purely arbitrary.  And with that alone, a whispering campaign can oust you without even having to write the goldenrod.</p>
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		By: Alex De Valera		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-spying-hypocrisy/#comment-164652</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex De Valera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had read Orwell&#039;s 1984 and Huxley&#039;s Brave New World when I was very young. I went through 1984 recently and I realised the Orwellian nightmare is a joke compared to the control and the mind bending that Scientology exerts on its members.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had read Orwell&#8217;s 1984 and Huxley&#8217;s Brave New World when I was very young. I went through 1984 recently and I realised the Orwellian nightmare is a joke compared to the control and the mind bending that Scientology exerts on its members.</p>
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