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		By: Thoughtful		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, Great reporting and great analysis. As for DM and Co... I&#039;m speechless. A monkey on a typewriter would literally make more sense than DM&#039;s programming, planning, disasters. They&#039;ve set a new standard for how Glutz anyone can be, saying that GAT takes 3.5 years. More time that it actually takes to dissolve a river rock in your mouth. In 1984, I did several Academy Levels at Flag. Each one took 2 weeks or less, and I was not even going full time. They were easy to do, and FUN. Here&#039;s what really bothers me: Try as I may, I can not think of a single job that DM could do anywhere in the world... and not f**k it up totally. I mean, what could he do? Rake leaves? No. He&#039;d break the rake and invent a faster rake with tines at each end but it would take months to prepare the specially-painted rust-resistant teflon rake tines plus matching goggles with mirror lenses made by Oakley that prevented anyone from seeing anything, and electronic timed drills for raking, and hundreds of rules you had to memorize including the physical shape of every kind of leaf of every tree in the world because (in his words) &quot;If you are raking leaves, number one, you should know what kind of leaves they are to be given that to do, G*d damn... okay, number two, down to the core and that&#039;s what&#039;s the pie faces f**king that SP c**t in the ass yesterday? Forget all the drills. Just put them out. This week. And every one of you will be comm ev&#039;ed and you should be buried alive in an ant bed for not getting those drills done yet. I want them done okay. And no one is coming along behind me to stop it or I want ethics put in. You know what? It&#039;s going to take too long. F**k it. Cancelled! No drills, just put out the rakes and they better be priced. You read price engram? There&#039;s not going to be any degrade of tech. These rakes are so good, they ought to cost more than a car. They&#039;re that good. I want drills for every kind of raking. Grass, no grass, sand, dirt. What if it&#039;s a stone garden? What&#039;s the drill for that? I better see those drills on my desk or you&#039;re all toast and I mean everyone. When LRH did it, do you know what he did it? ANSWER ME! You heard exactly what I said. No ANSWER ME! (savagely attacks GL and MY, drawing blood). Get that cleaned up. Just put the rakes out, I want to know what we all them. Quantum? The Shield? You know what? I don&#039;t want to see any drills. Get that mess cleaned up and I better not find out you guys secured tonight without getting this done. I don&#039;t care if you never sleep.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, Great reporting and great analysis. As for DM and Co&#8230; I&#8217;m speechless. A monkey on a typewriter would literally make more sense than DM&#8217;s programming, planning, disasters. They&#8217;ve set a new standard for how Glutz anyone can be, saying that GAT takes 3.5 years. More time that it actually takes to dissolve a river rock in your mouth. In 1984, I did several Academy Levels at Flag. Each one took 2 weeks or less, and I was not even going full time. They were easy to do, and FUN. Here&#8217;s what really bothers me: Try as I may, I can not think of a single job that DM could do anywhere in the world&#8230; and not f**k it up totally. I mean, what could he do? Rake leaves? No. He&#8217;d break the rake and invent a faster rake with tines at each end but it would take months to prepare the specially-painted rust-resistant teflon rake tines plus matching goggles with mirror lenses made by Oakley that prevented anyone from seeing anything, and electronic timed drills for raking, and hundreds of rules you had to memorize including the physical shape of every kind of leaf of every tree in the world because (in his words) &#8220;If you are raking leaves, number one, you should know what kind of leaves they are to be given that to do, G*d damn&#8230; okay, number two, down to the core and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s the pie faces f**king that SP c**t in the ass yesterday? Forget all the drills. Just put them out. This week. And every one of you will be comm ev&#8217;ed and you should be buried alive in an ant bed for not getting those drills done yet. I want them done okay. And no one is coming along behind me to stop it or I want ethics put in. You know what? It&#8217;s going to take too long. F**k it. Cancelled! No drills, just put out the rakes and they better be priced. You read price engram? There&#8217;s not going to be any degrade of tech. These rakes are so good, they ought to cost more than a car. They&#8217;re that good. I want drills for every kind of raking. Grass, no grass, sand, dirt. What if it&#8217;s a stone garden? What&#8217;s the drill for that? I better see those drills on my desk or you&#8217;re all toast and I mean everyone. When LRH did it, do you know what he did it? ANSWER ME! You heard exactly what I said. No ANSWER ME! (savagely attacks GL and MY, drawing blood). Get that cleaned up. Just put the rakes out, I want to know what we all them. Quantum? The Shield? You know what? I don&#8217;t want to see any drills. Get that mess cleaned up and I better not find out you guys secured tonight without getting this done. I don&#8217;t care if you never sleep.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Paul Foster (Martin Luther)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 20:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5823&quot;&gt;Sinar&lt;/a&gt;.

This reminds me-- has anyone ever found an intact copy of the World Out Of Comm Eval in the wild? I&#039;d be intensely interested in reading this, but I&#039;ve never been able to find it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5823">Sinar</a>.</p>
<p>This reminds me&#8211; has anyone ever found an intact copy of the World Out Of Comm Eval in the wild? I&#8217;d be intensely interested in reading this, but I&#8217;ve never been able to find it.</p>
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		By: Automatic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5863&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey, thank you so much for your reply man! And I apologize, I had just finished reading two books from former CoS memebers and then after surfing the net for awhile came across your blog, and had a brain fart thinking that one of the books was yours, sorry about that (though if you did write a book I would totally buy it :D) 

I know that the bible and koran aren&#039;t copyrightable, which is one of the reasons I had the line of logic concerning Scientology. I haven&#039;t read on the cases concerning Christian Science but will indeed take a look, for I am curious. I had always thought it strange though that a religion can have &quot;copyrightable scriptures&quot;, I mean, I understand if church members wrote their own books interpreting their beliefs of their religion, and wished to copyright their books. But I firmly believe that any church that wishes to retain their tax exempt status should not be allowed to have their &quot;scriptures&quot; copyrighted, as it is those writings which disseminate the belief system itself, and by such if one cannot determine what the religion believes in without having to pay for it, then it is not a &quot;religion&quot; but a &quot;corporation&quot; and more resembles a pay-to-play self help system. But I digress...I understand the &quot;intellectual property&quot; arguments, yet, considering the very fact that the bible and koran are not copyrightable, and are also considered &quot;scriptures&quot; then just by using those two examples, wouldn&#039;t they set precedence that any religion cannot copyright their &quot;scriptures&quot;? (such as OT materials that are considered necessary belief systems in order to spiritually advance as a being) It is a dangerous slope, you see, because it could allow anyone to just make up a system, or take an existing system, copyright it, sell it, and claim tax exemption as a religion. That could include: self-help books, cookbooks, and any other books you might imagine could be construed as &quot;religions&quot;. Belief systems themselves should not be allowed to be copyrighted imho, individual interpretations of said belief systems I think is fair, but not the actual &quot;religion&quot; itself. This is the flaw in our law(s).

Just my two cents. Keep up the great work man, I enjoy reading your blog and think it is incredibly brave of you to openly do so knowing what I know now of the CoS tactics towards people who do speak out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5863">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Hey, thank you so much for your reply man! And I apologize, I had just finished reading two books from former CoS memebers and then after surfing the net for awhile came across your blog, and had a brain fart thinking that one of the books was yours, sorry about that (though if you did write a book I would totally buy it :D) </p>
<p>I know that the bible and koran aren&#8217;t copyrightable, which is one of the reasons I had the line of logic concerning Scientology. I haven&#8217;t read on the cases concerning Christian Science but will indeed take a look, for I am curious. I had always thought it strange though that a religion can have &#8220;copyrightable scriptures&#8221;, I mean, I understand if church members wrote their own books interpreting their beliefs of their religion, and wished to copyright their books. But I firmly believe that any church that wishes to retain their tax exempt status should not be allowed to have their &#8220;scriptures&#8221; copyrighted, as it is those writings which disseminate the belief system itself, and by such if one cannot determine what the religion believes in without having to pay for it, then it is not a &#8220;religion&#8221; but a &#8220;corporation&#8221; and more resembles a pay-to-play self help system. But I digress&#8230;I understand the &#8220;intellectual property&#8221; arguments, yet, considering the very fact that the bible and koran are not copyrightable, and are also considered &#8220;scriptures&#8221; then just by using those two examples, wouldn&#8217;t they set precedence that any religion cannot copyright their &#8220;scriptures&#8221;? (such as OT materials that are considered necessary belief systems in order to spiritually advance as a being) It is a dangerous slope, you see, because it could allow anyone to just make up a system, or take an existing system, copyright it, sell it, and claim tax exemption as a religion. That could include: self-help books, cookbooks, and any other books you might imagine could be construed as &#8220;religions&#8221;. Belief systems themselves should not be allowed to be copyrighted imho, individual interpretations of said belief systems I think is fair, but not the actual &#8220;religion&#8221; itself. This is the flaw in our law(s).</p>
<p>Just my two cents. Keep up the great work man, I enjoy reading your blog and think it is incredibly brave of you to openly do so knowing what I know now of the CoS tactics towards people who do speak out.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 13:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5860&quot;&gt;Automatic&lt;/a&gt;.

First, I have  no kindle book.

A religion can have intellectual property rights -- there are tons of cases on this subject, many dealing with Christian Science. The bible and koran arent copyrightable, so the cases concern later religions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5860">Automatic</a>.</p>
<p>First, I have  no kindle book.</p>
<p>A religion can have intellectual property rights &#8212; there are tons of cases on this subject, many dealing with Christian Science. The bible and koran arent copyrightable, so the cases concern later religions.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Kris S. You got it correct.
Heres the secret of GAT 3
D.M. will sell Door knobs( Valley Org successful action)
and Clear the Planet by himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Kris S. You got it correct.<br />
Heres the secret of GAT 3<br />
D.M. will sell Door knobs( Valley Org successful action)<br />
and Clear the Planet by himself.</p>
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		By: Automatic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 06:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5777&quot;&gt;Forever Lurker&lt;/a&gt;.

Bravo! I had actually thought the same thing the very first time that I read Dianetics. One question for Mike Rinder (by the way I bought your kindle book and recommend it to anyone interested in the Co$) ...my question which does pertain to this very post:
Since Judge Pfaelzer ruled that Scientology was a religion, and not a commercial corporation, and that the ruling that the upper level material (and by default all the &quot;religious&quot; materials) being indisputably religious, could not be protected from unauthorized use by way of commercial law. Thereby negating copyrights to ALL religious Co$ materials. Is this a fair statement? Did this ruling in effect erase the church&#039;s hold on the copyrights?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5777">Forever Lurker</a>.</p>
<p>Bravo! I had actually thought the same thing the very first time that I read Dianetics. One question for Mike Rinder (by the way I bought your kindle book and recommend it to anyone interested in the Co$) &#8230;my question which does pertain to this very post:<br />
Since Judge Pfaelzer ruled that Scientology was a religion, and not a commercial corporation, and that the ruling that the upper level material (and by default all the &#8220;religious&#8221; materials) being indisputably religious, could not be protected from unauthorized use by way of commercial law. Thereby negating copyrights to ALL religious Co$ materials. Is this a fair statement? Did this ruling in effect erase the church&#8217;s hold on the copyrights?</p>
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		By: tony dephillips		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 06:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5858&quot;&gt;tony dephillips&lt;/a&gt;.

Pretty funny movie.
It reminded me of dm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5858">tony dephillips</a>.</p>
<p>Pretty funny movie.<br />
It reminded me of dm.</p>
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		By: tony dephillips		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 06:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYplvwBvGA4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYplvwBvGA4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYplvwBvGA4</a></p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 05:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5739&quot;&gt;Sinar&lt;/a&gt;.

More time to work on his tan though, Sinar. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-summer-of-love/#comment-5739">Sinar</a>.</p>
<p>More time to work on his tan though, Sinar. 😉</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 05:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OM effing G! 
Thank you for deciphering that gobbledygook.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OM effing G!<br />
Thank you for deciphering that gobbledygook.</p>
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