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		By: KM Kazmierczak		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KM Kazmierczak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2021 19:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-422626&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

It might put the visa line under a microscope. But yes I&#039;m willing to do it. Got a call from CLO not just 30 min ago, I more or less told them to stuff it and told them I&#039;m talking to you; so looks like I&#039;m on board. 


I had to think about the answer  being an unavoidable yes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-422626">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>It might put the visa line under a microscope. But yes I&#8217;m willing to do it. Got a call from CLO not just 30 min ago, I more or less told them to stuff it and told them I&#8217;m talking to you; so looks like I&#8217;m on board. </p>
<p>I had to think about the answer  being an unavoidable yes.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 20:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-422576&quot;&gt;Krzysztof Michal Kazmierczak&lt;/a&gt;.

That is some fascinating stuff.

There are some reporters in Australia who may be willing to follow up on this. Ben Schneiders being one... Would you be willing to provide whatever information you have to him?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-422576">Krzysztof Michal Kazmierczak</a>.</p>
<p>That is some fascinating stuff.</p>
<p>There are some reporters in Australia who may be willing to follow up on this. Ben Schneiders being one&#8230; Would you be willing to provide whatever information you have to him?</p>
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		By: Krzysztof Michal Kazmierczak		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Krzysztof Michal Kazmierczak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 19:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-394422&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Totally, I was told that I could do &quot;favours&quot; for Scientologists to earn cash such as cleaning etc. and they redefined what could be taxed and not taxed. This is how they got people to go on a Religious Visas in Sydney Org back before it went Ideal at least. This greatest good thing was really stretched here. They will go pretty far to muddle shit up so they can get a staff on board.

Anyway the HAS Jennifer AnokiChan, Diane Gilbert the ED, Miriam Kortbawi DED (They used her as a success story for for how the visa worked but you eventually find out that Miriam was crashing at her dad&#039;s the whole time and didn&#039;t have to pay rent), Tojo DSA and the mysterious Scientology lawyer who checked everything out for me says it&#039;s all OK, and pretty much the whole org needed to peddle this stuff for it to sound convincing.

The line was more or less the following: As long as you get under the tax free threshold you don&#039;t need to pay tax and favours don&#039;t count; the tax free limit was about $12K the first year in 2010 and $24k my second year. This type of activity is expressly forbidden under the visa terms and is called something like income building activity or related activity and does not qualify for tax exemption. But you don&#039;t find out till it&#039;s too late and you&#039;re committed.

Anyway they couldn&#039;t find me enough work this way so I just worked illegally for a Scientology company (Sorry Lenny) Sydney Shade Sails, and payed regular tax until I left staff to go back to Canada.

I certainly evaded a few thousand in tax before I got fed up with the whole thing, not a lot but enough to be illegal as it&#039;s fraudulent reporting. I&#039;m not a big fan of taxes but the whole point of this was to do it legally and it was anything but since I was gunning for the Australian version of a green card and doing illegal shit does not help.

The whole EC/AC council then would be suspect, so Paul Reid was the OES, there were two siblings James HCO COPE OFF and Sarah Robson would be in on it as well and some Russian from HCO called Rouslan.

The whole thing was obviously kept quiet as I made no attempt to hide my activity from them. It was all for the greatest good and I believed it but really didn&#039;t like the nasty feeling that came with it, so... here is my side. Hope it helps someone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-394422">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Totally, I was told that I could do &#8220;favours&#8221; for Scientologists to earn cash such as cleaning etc. and they redefined what could be taxed and not taxed. This is how they got people to go on a Religious Visas in Sydney Org back before it went Ideal at least. This greatest good thing was really stretched here. They will go pretty far to muddle shit up so they can get a staff on board.</p>
<p>Anyway the HAS Jennifer AnokiChan, Diane Gilbert the ED, Miriam Kortbawi DED (They used her as a success story for for how the visa worked but you eventually find out that Miriam was crashing at her dad&#8217;s the whole time and didn&#8217;t have to pay rent), Tojo DSA and the mysterious Scientology lawyer who checked everything out for me says it&#8217;s all OK, and pretty much the whole org needed to peddle this stuff for it to sound convincing.</p>
<p>The line was more or less the following: As long as you get under the tax free threshold you don&#8217;t need to pay tax and favours don&#8217;t count; the tax free limit was about $12K the first year in 2010 and $24k my second year. This type of activity is expressly forbidden under the visa terms and is called something like income building activity or related activity and does not qualify for tax exemption. But you don&#8217;t find out till it&#8217;s too late and you&#8217;re committed.</p>
<p>Anyway they couldn&#8217;t find me enough work this way so I just worked illegally for a Scientology company (Sorry Lenny) Sydney Shade Sails, and payed regular tax until I left staff to go back to Canada.</p>
<p>I certainly evaded a few thousand in tax before I got fed up with the whole thing, not a lot but enough to be illegal as it&#8217;s fraudulent reporting. I&#8217;m not a big fan of taxes but the whole point of this was to do it legally and it was anything but since I was gunning for the Australian version of a green card and doing illegal shit does not help.</p>
<p>The whole EC/AC council then would be suspect, so Paul Reid was the OES, there were two siblings James HCO COPE OFF and Sarah Robson would be in on it as well and some Russian from HCO called Rouslan.</p>
<p>The whole thing was obviously kept quiet as I made no attempt to hide my activity from them. It was all for the greatest good and I believed it but really didn&#8217;t like the nasty feeling that came with it, so&#8230; here is my side. Hope it helps someone.</p>
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		By: Karen Fancher		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2021 20:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, just WOW!  I had no idea how awful this organization is.  Thanks so much for the insight...please keep up the good work.  I had a relative who was going to go into Scientology and I&#039;m so glad she didn&#039;t.  She told me that it was &quot;bullshit&quot; and hypocritical...guess she was right]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, just WOW!  I had no idea how awful this organization is.  Thanks so much for the insight&#8230;please keep up the good work.  I had a relative who was going to go into Scientology and I&#8217;m so glad she didn&#8217;t.  She told me that it was &#8220;bullshit&#8221; and hypocritical&#8230;guess she was right</p>
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		By: Brian J Sheen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian J Sheen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2021 15:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-397288&quot;&gt;adobe blue&lt;/a&gt;.

what an interesting perspective. I never got to know them as I was just introduced to them at my daughters wedding to their son, and Scientology played a zero role in this meeting.]]></description>
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<p>what an interesting perspective. I never got to know them as I was just introduced to them at my daughters wedding to their son, and Scientology played a zero role in this meeting.</p>
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		By: adobe blue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2021 07:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-397213&quot;&gt;Brian J Sheen&lt;/a&gt;.

I thought of an anecdote that relates to this.  When I worked for Atkinson-Baker, the CEO, Alan Atkinson-Baker liked to hire scientologists, whether they were qualified for the job or not,  He knew he could fire these scn&#039;s without recourse based on the policies quoted above whereas with non scn&#039;s he had to worry about being sued. He used this liberally in his business, firing scn&#039;s at will ( I believe he liked firing people) and keeping on unqualified non scn&#039;s to avoid a lawsuit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-397213">Brian J Sheen</a>.</p>
<p>I thought of an anecdote that relates to this.  When I worked for Atkinson-Baker, the CEO, Alan Atkinson-Baker liked to hire scientologists, whether they were qualified for the job or not,  He knew he could fire these scn&#8217;s without recourse based on the policies quoted above whereas with non scn&#8217;s he had to worry about being sued. He used this liberally in his business, firing scn&#8217;s at will ( I believe he liked firing people) and keeping on unqualified non scn&#8217;s to avoid a lawsuit.</p>
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		By: Brian J Sheen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian J Sheen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2021 18:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I feel like gagging, reading what you shared of how great Co$ justice is and how they do not discourage members from reporting anything to the police. As I share in my book Relentless, Rescuing My Daughter from Scientology, one of the &#039;crimes&quot; I was charged with to be declared SP was reporting to the police  the kidnapping of my daughter from daycare when she was 4 years old. I was not even a Scientologist at the time and didn&#039;t find out until days later, my ex-wife had kidnapped her and took her on a train from Florida to California, only telling me 4 days later. The crime wasn&#039;t her kidnapping my daughter, but not reporting it to Scientology to handle because she was a Scientologist! Co$ also refused to have be at the hearing in which they declared me SP and refused to give me a copy of hearings findings. Yes...what justice they share.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like gagging, reading what you shared of how great Co$ justice is and how they do not discourage members from reporting anything to the police. As I share in my book Relentless, Rescuing My Daughter from Scientology, one of the &#8216;crimes&#8221; I was charged with to be declared SP was reporting to the police  the kidnapping of my daughter from daycare when she was 4 years old. I was not even a Scientologist at the time and didn&#8217;t find out until days later, my ex-wife had kidnapped her and took her on a train from Florida to California, only telling me 4 days later. The crime wasn&#8217;t her kidnapping my daughter, but not reporting it to Scientology to handle because she was a Scientologist! Co$ also refused to have be at the hearing in which they declared me SP and refused to give me a copy of hearings findings. Yes&#8230;what justice they share.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2021 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-394391&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

Bruce did you read what was in the link above I posted??

&quot;The original description of the big lie appeared in Mein Kampf. Adolf Hitler applied it to the behavior of Jews rather than as a tactic he advocated. Specifically, he accused Viennese Jews of trying to discredit the Germans’ activities during World War I. Hitler wrote of the Jews’ “unqualified capacity for falsehood” and “that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily;&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-394391">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>Bruce did you read what was in the link above I posted??</p>
<p>&#8220;The original description of the big lie appeared in Mein Kampf. Adolf Hitler applied it to the behavior of Jews rather than as a tactic he advocated. Specifically, he accused Viennese Jews of trying to discredit the Germans’ activities during World War I. Hitler wrote of the Jews’ “unqualified capacity for falsehood” and “that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily;&#8221;</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balletlady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2021 15:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-394458&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes indeed!  

I thought THIS hit it OUT of the ballpark because deep within my soul &#038; heart of hearts I can actually HEAR HIM DENY EVERY ASSAULT as in &quot;THEY wanted ME&quot;............or....&quot; NO, it WASN&#039;T ME.................THEY&#039;RE CONFUSED from drinking too much booze etc&quot;............. .....SMH.

Of course with a high power Attorney Like Tom M......hang onto your hats......

I hope &#038; pray that everyone he assaulted get JUSTICE. I KNOW we all would like to comfort his VICTIMS.......No one ever forgets a sexual assault........]]></description>
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<p>Yes indeed!  </p>
<p>I thought THIS hit it OUT of the ballpark because deep within my soul &amp; heart of hearts I can actually HEAR HIM DENY EVERY ASSAULT as in &#8220;THEY wanted ME&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;or&#8230;.&#8221; NO, it WASN&#8217;T ME&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..THEY&#8217;RE CONFUSED from drinking too much booze etc&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. &#8230;..SMH.</p>
<p>Of course with a high power Attorney Like Tom M&#8230;&#8230;hang onto your hats&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I hope &amp; pray that everyone he assaulted get JUSTICE. I KNOW we all would like to comfort his VICTIMS&#8230;&#8230;.No one ever forgets a sexual assault&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2021 15:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-tells-another-big-lie-or-two/#comment-394286&quot;&gt;georgemwhite&lt;/a&gt;.

George - I was wondering to whom you were replying. I just now &quot;got it&quot;. Duh <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f644.png" alt="🙄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
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<p>George &#8211; I was wondering to whom you were replying. I just now &#8220;got it&#8221;. Duh 🙄</p>
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