i came here looking for info about it as well, giving the fact that it is 2 years already.. but i would not give her money because it is first the mother’s property first and second, i also would want to have a peace of land ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ my money with me

Great work all support t to those doing this Question is now the stories of some have been exposed what actions of authorities if involved now will be done to actually go and see for themselves what is going on,
e g: access to be seen from within since this exposure would be essential

I’m posting because I have a question for Liz, Mike, Leah, and other participants from the TV program. How great a risk is it to expose Scientology and reveal your stories on television and on the internet as you are doing? Are there credible risks to your safety and to the safety of your spouses or children as well as to yourself?

I came to this page looking for people who might be working on a fundraising campaign for Liz Gale. Did Liz have the ability to purchase the property? Is there anything we can do to help???

I agree!

Lions ROAR! Chickens, run an hide in the coop.

It also makes me sick how the church handles mental illnesses.
To the CoS: PEOPLE WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL NEED REAL HELP. PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH DEPRESSION OR BIPOLAR OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE NEED REAL HELP. Not the Scientology crap you spew down their throats. That just makes everything worse.

And for God sakes, allow these people to grieve when they lose someone they love. You don’t know how much damage you are doing to these people. It makes me sick.

Keep exposing the church Mike and Leah. You are reaching so many people!

Harpoona Frittata, I always want to mention it, but I don’t think I ever have. When I say it causes mental illness, I say it not as an insult, but as an awareness from someone (me) who was caused some degree of mental illness, from having been so deeply involved. Fortunately, I left with my young children before sinking deeper into mental illness. I never crossed that line that many staff members do of abandoning their children. If I had, I most certainly would have been in much worse shape than I was when I left.

It took a lot of years and a lot of living to unravel the “mind fluck” I experienced. And even 12 years after leaving, I knew I still had twisted, unreal views of myself and the world that I’d formed completely and solely from the church and all it encompassed. I was still mentally ill, in other words. Probably not enough to be diagnosed with any particular condition, but I knew my thinking wasn’t right. I definitely wasn’t mentally healthy.

I went to Mark Rathbun to resolve these final vestiges of messed up thinking that I hadn’t been able to shake and will ever be grateful to him for helping me sort them out and finally rid myself of these twisted, narcissistic ideas forever. He was perfect for the task, because he knew where it all came from.

It wasn’t until then, that I was truly and finally freed from the brainwashing. I regained the humanity I had arrived with way back in 1987, but had lost along the way. I was no longer mentally ill and could work to become mentally healthy; a work which is in progress. 🙂

Jere, was my intention by using that phrase, glad it did not go unnoticed. I tried to read one myself many years ago and was just so underwhelmed I couldn’t handle it. It was just such amateurish crap, And Battlefield Earth was so poorly written I could not get through even a third of it. I had no idea about the Westerns. It should also be mentioned that his fellow sci-fi authors during that time didn’t have inordinate respect for him either, other than the fact he could crank stuff out and market it. They kinda thought he was a real hack, if an interesting weird guy. I wonder what his colleagues in the other genre really thought of his “talent”. The dialog was really comic book level.

Moxie, I think Battlefield Earth was enough of a box-office nightmare the first time without making every CoS member have to buy multiple tickets to see a new version, even if it starred the major principles and cost them a lot of money to make. It was the first modern sci-fi movie ever made, imo, that looked like it was already the Mystery Science Theater parody version of itself. Although I suppose that would give people who suffered a lot a bit of comfort. Maybe one with a similar voice-over commentary by people who escaped the clutches of CoS would be even better.

When I worked at bookstores in the 70s and 80s we just used to rip off the covers of Dianetics and dump them in the back with the romance novels. (SOP for books that don’t sell – just return the covers to publishers for credit because it’s too expensive to ship back the rejects. Only CoS always wanted them sent back intact so they could repackage them, and resell the copies to jack up the numbers on the bestseller lists. We used to laugh when we would open the boxes and the books had obviously been sold before, ready for recycling.)

How about redoing Battlefield Earth with Tom Cruise as Johnnie Goodboy and Dave as Terl? Hell, I’d buy a ticket!