Well FredEX2, I’m quite certain I didn’t say anything about members being “lazy”; made no mention of work ethic at all.

But the folks who fall for these “too good to be true” cons are gullible; they just are. That’s not to say they aren’t intelligent in other ways, perhaps academically; but from a common sense (which isn’t all that common today) or street sense perspective, they’d be considered a “mark”.

What’s most telling to me is when we see the interview with a much younger Leah Remini at the beginning of episodes, and she’s talking about how the world would be without Scientologists doing all these good deeds; except there never are any. I’ve yet to hear or read about any noteworthy and verifiable charity work. When we see the vast amounts of money they’ve clearly collected to buy up all that property and build these extravagant structures, surely there must be countless projects and accomplishments they could point to and make their case.

Any time other wealthy benefactors start a charitable foundation, establish scholarships or grants for further education, or donate 6, 7, even 8-figure sums to benefit others, it gets reported by the media, even if those benefactors didn’t want any publicity over it in the first place.

Well, this cult has obviously had access to the kind of money that would make it impossible to keep their charitable works a secret if they’d participated similarly to other multi-millionaire or billionaire entities and individuals.

I can’t recall where I read it now, but a story was published recently about Scientology claiming they’d sent tens of thousands of Scientologists to Texas to aid in the Harvey disaster; but someone on the ground there said there were actually fewer than 500.

That’s what I mean when I characterize members as “gullible”; after only a year, if there hadn’t been any news or evidence of charitable work having been accomplished, most observant folks would label that a “clue” that no such work was being performed. I’m not special, but I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t take me a year to arrive at that conclusion; the first time they handed me those ridiculous canisters in an auditing session I wouldn’t be able to continue because I wouldn’t be able to stop laughing long enough to go on.

The following commercial was American Horror Story and the theme is Cult.

I hope you know that there exists a network of others who have felt just like you do today. I’ve read their stories and watched them on Aftermath. You would do well to reach out to this brother/sisterhood for more validation. Continue in your healing and recovery. You are far from insane..

Blessings!

I think this is SO very powerful. It’s not He said She said. It’s hubbard himself, saying it.

It was sooo bloody masterful.

Just masterful use of his own BS to show the world.

I just love it.

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and…. as an aside……

I’m an old Div 6er. Lots of stories there – and I just shudder and wonder what the hell it’s like these days, being a div 6er. Who comes in to a North American Org, and wants to know, “what this is about”?

We never had to contend with people spouting the contents of the OT levels.

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeze louise. I can’t even imagine. Who in their right mind gets into scn after hearing all of this stuff?

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I’m feeling rather cheerful.

Blue pill mmm ahh. What? 😀 I honestly don’t know where to dig up the suitcases of cash.

Regarding the comment about folks who get involved in cults being ” ignorant and gullible”:
I’d recommend checking out Open Minds Foundation, Freedom Of Mind Resource Center, and International Cultic Studies Association. All are easy to find on the internet and offer tons of information about the general topics of cults and undue influence.
Two models that explain the mechanics of cult control and influence in a concise, comprehensive way are Steve Hassan’s BITE model(for behavior, information, though, and emotion control/modification) and Robert Jay Lifton’s 8 Criteria For Thought Reform.

Thanks Aqua. I could do an album of this stuff!

My great Grandfather William Leany was there. He was severely injured and never fully recovered because he helped some of them, because they had helped him earlier.

http://www.exmormon.org/journey/journey_h.htm

Excellent, Moxie! I could just hear Sammy Davis’ amazing voice singing your version.

And you’re right that they weren’t the Mormon’s friends. However, the account I read said that the Mormons “befriended them” and offered to help them over the pass and walked with them to show them the way and then on command turned and shot them.