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		By: 867-5309		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jenny, Jennie, who can I turn to??

Every time I see this hot, passionate, DERANGED chick spitting, biting Scratching wildcat and totally unhinged lunatic, (Jennie Linson) can’t help but wonder if she brings that madness to her more intimate encounters. I like to think of her screaming at me like a homeless woman screaming at pigeons at the bus stop, while the two of us wrassel around on DM’s floor, totally nekkid. I can’t be the only one to dream of Jennie with the light brown hair? I’ve heard she’s probably in the hole when she’s not out ranting like a banshee on behalf of her master. Speaking of which, is there any word on whether DM takes advantage of this hot little Tasmanian Devil?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny, Jennie, who can I turn to??</p>
<p>Every time I see this hot, passionate, DERANGED chick spitting, biting Scratching wildcat and totally unhinged lunatic, (Jennie Linson) can’t help but wonder if she brings that madness to her more intimate encounters. I like to think of her screaming at me like a homeless woman screaming at pigeons at the bus stop, while the two of us wrassel around on DM’s floor, totally nekkid. I can’t be the only one to dream of Jennie with the light brown hair? I’ve heard she’s probably in the hole when she’s not out ranting like a banshee on behalf of her master. Speaking of which, is there any word on whether DM takes advantage of this hot little Tasmanian Devil?</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As someone who was &quot;once in,&quot; this occurrence seems a vivid illumination that there may be no such thing as &quot;operating thetan (OT) abilities.&quot; It makes me sad to write those words. Though out for a while, I retained a lot of my virtuous feeling toward many of the spiritual things I studied and, of course, wanted to get the promised benefit (super charged OT abilities) out of all the past services I have done and the more than half a million dollars I spent, even as a middle-class wage earner.

This meltdown/shakedown though, and others like it which have been documented, show me there may be no such thing as OT abilities. If these abilities to &quot;think&quot; a thought toward what you want—from an individual, or a vehicle driving by, or a weather pattern you wish to repel—were honestly available, WOULDN&#039;T THE TOP TRAINED LEADERS OF SCIENTOLOGY BE USING THEM?

They do not, though. Instead, as is discussed here, the &quot;tactic&quot; to make an effect on another—which this &quot;most ethical group on the planet&quot; thinks is a worthy effect—is to show up as a gang of outrageously verbally abusing thugs. As others convey here: This is simply un-believable, first and foremost as adult behavior, and secondly from a &quot;PR&quot; standpoint as anyone could have been walking by or pulling into the parking lot to get to their doctor appointment. The fact that a BBC reporter was on the phone is sweet justice, in my opinion (and further evidence of zero ability on the part of these elite scientology group members to accurately predict or constructively control their environment).

Morally, for myself, I have to squarely consider: If OT abilities so many of us paid massive amounts of money for and dedicated many, many hours, weeks, weekends, travel time to pursue and attain are real, then why aren&#039;t these abilities used by C of S top management to influence people and events, and thereby attain their stated purpose of forging a decent society?

It&#039;s hard to find a word to attach to all this: irony, sham, deceit, fraud, spiritual Ponzi scheme. Being in scientology truly is like being in &quot;The Matrix.&quot; 

To say Mike has transcended all the madness of the infamous parking lot encounter AND SO MUCH MORE seems an understatement. It reminds me that actions and character count—and perhaps a measure of humility, too. (Certainly can&#039;t hurt.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who was &#8220;once in,&#8221; this occurrence seems a vivid illumination that there may be no such thing as &#8220;operating thetan (OT) abilities.&#8221; It makes me sad to write those words. Though out for a while, I retained a lot of my virtuous feeling toward many of the spiritual things I studied and, of course, wanted to get the promised benefit (super charged OT abilities) out of all the past services I have done and the more than half a million dollars I spent, even as a middle-class wage earner.</p>
<p>This meltdown/shakedown though, and others like it which have been documented, show me there may be no such thing as OT abilities. If these abilities to &#8220;think&#8221; a thought toward what you want—from an individual, or a vehicle driving by, or a weather pattern you wish to repel—were honestly available, WOULDN&#8217;T THE TOP TRAINED LEADERS OF SCIENTOLOGY BE USING THEM?</p>
<p>They do not, though. Instead, as is discussed here, the &#8220;tactic&#8221; to make an effect on another—which this &#8220;most ethical group on the planet&#8221; thinks is a worthy effect—is to show up as a gang of outrageously verbally abusing thugs. As others convey here: This is simply un-believable, first and foremost as adult behavior, and secondly from a &#8220;PR&#8221; standpoint as anyone could have been walking by or pulling into the parking lot to get to their doctor appointment. The fact that a BBC reporter was on the phone is sweet justice, in my opinion (and further evidence of zero ability on the part of these elite scientology group members to accurately predict or constructively control their environment).</p>
<p>Morally, for myself, I have to squarely consider: If OT abilities so many of us paid massive amounts of money for and dedicated many, many hours, weeks, weekends, travel time to pursue and attain are real, then why aren&#8217;t these abilities used by C of S top management to influence people and events, and thereby attain their stated purpose of forging a decent society?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to find a word to attach to all this: irony, sham, deceit, fraud, spiritual Ponzi scheme. Being in scientology truly is like being in &#8220;The Matrix.&#8221; </p>
<p>To say Mike has transcended all the madness of the infamous parking lot encounter AND SO MUCH MORE seems an understatement. It reminds me that actions and character count—and perhaps a measure of humility, too. (Certainly can&#8217;t hurt.)</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 02:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is Jenny Linson and the wives on Anderson Cooper. Amazing what hair and make up can do. Actors usually like to look good when reciting their lines.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPUucp4WrE]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is Jenny Linson and the wives on Anderson Cooper. Amazing what hair and make up can do. Actors usually like to look good when reciting their lines.  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPUucp4WrE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPUucp4WrE</a></p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 02:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65889&quot;&gt;Sabine Waterkamp&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m so sorry Sabine.  Contact me if there&#039;s anything I can help you with.  Dora]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65889">Sabine Waterkamp</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sorry Sabine.  Contact me if there&#8217;s anything I can help you with.  Dora</p>
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		By: aegerprimo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 00:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This video might make as big of an impact to those still in the Co$ as Debbie Cook&#039;s email in 2012 - http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/scientology_in_3.php]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This video might make as big of an impact to those still in the Co$ as Debbie Cook&#8217;s email in 2012 &#8211; <a href="http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/scientology_in_3.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/scientology_in_3.php</a></p>
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		By: G. Stoffel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2014 22:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65744&quot;&gt;Tony DePhillips&lt;/a&gt;.

...mmhhh.... and there is an EVEN EARLIER SIMILAR incident...but this time on Flow Nr. 2...

[Sorry Mike, but Karma is a bitch... - seems like it&#039;s especially true for those with GO/OSA ties.  ;-) ]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f87Y1sq8KQs
http://www.xenutv.com/blog/2010/02/28/ursula-cabertas-trip-to-florida/


See, how OSA even used german speaking outer org trainees to get Mrs. Caberta &quot;properly welcomed&quot;.

Pay attention to the young lady at 2:08.

It is: JULIA HÜTTMANN from Stuttgart/Germany.

She is very good friends with DIETER STUCKENBROCK - the father of former INT BASE SECURITY CHIEF, UWE STUCKENBROCK (R.I.P.) and the father-in-law of LOURISSE STUCKENBROCK (COB Assist.).
Could that be the reason, why he isn&#039;t allowed to be any closer than 100yrds to COB when he goes to the IAS events... ???

Mrs. Hüttmann and Mr. Stuckenbrock are very good friends with TONY EGERT the former german Police Detective who worked undercover for OSA to spy on Renate Hartwig - another critic of COS.
After his cover blew up, he had to change the colour of his VW Golf from beige to blue...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65744">Tony DePhillips</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;mmhhh&#8230;. and there is an EVEN EARLIER SIMILAR incident&#8230;but this time on Flow Nr. 2&#8230;</p>
<p>[Sorry Mike, but Karma is a bitch&#8230; &#8211; seems like it&#8217;s especially true for those with GO/OSA ties.  😉 ]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f87Y1sq8KQs" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f87Y1sq8KQs</a><br />
<a href="http://www.xenutv.com/blog/2010/02/28/ursula-cabertas-trip-to-florida/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.xenutv.com/blog/2010/02/28/ursula-cabertas-trip-to-florida/</a></p>
<p>See, how OSA even used german speaking outer org trainees to get Mrs. Caberta &#8220;properly welcomed&#8221;.</p>
<p>Pay attention to the young lady at 2:08.</p>
<p>It is: JULIA HÜTTMANN from Stuttgart/Germany.</p>
<p>She is very good friends with DIETER STUCKENBROCK &#8211; the father of former INT BASE SECURITY CHIEF, UWE STUCKENBROCK (R.I.P.) and the father-in-law of LOURISSE STUCKENBROCK (COB Assist.).<br />
Could that be the reason, why he isn&#8217;t allowed to be any closer than 100yrds to COB when he goes to the IAS events&#8230; ???</p>
<p>Mrs. Hüttmann and Mr. Stuckenbrock are very good friends with TONY EGERT the former german Police Detective who worked undercover for OSA to spy on Renate Hartwig &#8211; another critic of COS.<br />
After his cover blew up, he had to change the colour of his VW Golf from beige to blue&#8230;</p>
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		By: Yossi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,
After listening and reading the transcripts I am totally shocked (again and again) of the ruthless and evil and degrading behavior especially by Jenny Linson and Cathy Rinder. As you mentioned, your daughter and brother were more &quot;civilized&quot;. I didn&#039;t read or hear any comments from Guialluame Lesevre. Unlike some comments I read, I am holding those and only those who participated in it FULLY responsible. DM just gave them orders and they have executed them probably better that he could. Not to condone their culpability, is like to excuse Goebbels and Eichmann from their own crimes and say they acted on behalf of &quot;Fuhrer Adolf&quot;. Many nazis caught after WWII claimed their &quot;innocence&quot; because they were following orders. That is a very poor excuse. When the wall of evil will collapse, they will use that excuse, and we should be very alert to that. Jenny Linson is as vicious and psychotic in the Marty&#039;s video as she was 4 years ago at the parking lot. 
Your confront is very admirable and I am sure the easiest thing to do was scream back. I don&#039;t know what would I have done, because they came just to enturbulate you for the sake of pure enturbulation. There is no excuse for that. Shame on them, their leader and the continuance of the policy of disconnection.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
After listening and reading the transcripts I am totally shocked (again and again) of the ruthless and evil and degrading behavior especially by Jenny Linson and Cathy Rinder. As you mentioned, your daughter and brother were more &#8220;civilized&#8221;. I didn&#8217;t read or hear any comments from Guialluame Lesevre. Unlike some comments I read, I am holding those and only those who participated in it FULLY responsible. DM just gave them orders and they have executed them probably better that he could. Not to condone their culpability, is like to excuse Goebbels and Eichmann from their own crimes and say they acted on behalf of &#8220;Fuhrer Adolf&#8221;. Many nazis caught after WWII claimed their &#8220;innocence&#8221; because they were following orders. That is a very poor excuse. When the wall of evil will collapse, they will use that excuse, and we should be very alert to that. Jenny Linson is as vicious and psychotic in the Marty&#8217;s video as she was 4 years ago at the parking lot.<br />
Your confront is very admirable and I am sure the easiest thing to do was scream back. I don&#8217;t know what would I have done, because they came just to enturbulate you for the sake of pure enturbulation. There is no excuse for that. Shame on them, their leader and the continuance of the policy of disconnection.</p>
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		By: Charles Murdoch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65782&quot;&gt;hgc10&lt;/a&gt;.

...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65782">hgc10</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		By: Katherine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65821&quot;&gt;Bob Dobbs&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Bob Dobbs. I&#039;ve apparently dubbed in security people at shops, restaurants, etc. My sense of police presence may be overblown. 


LOL Love the description of &quot;Constitution-free Zones.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65821">Bob Dobbs</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Bob Dobbs. I&#8217;ve apparently dubbed in security people at shops, restaurants, etc. My sense of police presence may be overblown. </p>
<p>LOL Love the description of &#8220;Constitution-free Zones.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65887&quot;&gt;SunnyV&lt;/a&gt;.

Sunny -- yes, I did. Read the story that is linked in the article which is my original account of the incident (&quot;Miscavige Meltdown&quot;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-top-management-video-earlier-beginning/#comment-65887">SunnyV</a>.</p>
<p>Sunny &#8212; yes, I did. Read the story that is linked in the article which is my original account of the incident (&#8220;Miscavige Meltdown&#8221;).</p>
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