There’s GOT to be some story about “Old Hubbard’s cupboard” sitting around…. bare as … mountain air?

Jere Great! Far out! At least I know now why I was declared as I have never seen the issue. And all this time I thought that it was because I was in comm with the likes of you

Jere. There were some officers who told the Captain that she should be allowed to leave. However, as you are no doubt aware, Scan is not a democracy. My wife later told me that the Captains main beef with her was that ” She split his E/C ; meaning some wanted to hold her there further and some wanted her released. From the Captain’s viewpoint, she had fomented a mutiny.
A great number of times I barely pulled off the Engine Room’s stat at 10 seconds to 2 PM after working all Wednesday night.
That was easy compared to getting my wife off the ship. Had they held her there another week or two, I would have been dead, just like the Captain said. In the end I came close to death solely because he commanded it

“… our former slave masters are obligated to maintain and supply our needs in this separate territory for the next 20 to 25 years–until we are able to produce and supply our own needs.”

That is SO laughably short-sighted. It’s not as if the NOI is in a similar situation to the Jews returning to their promises land. Excuse my delving back into scn-think and suggesting they should DEMAND their followers to get a real secondary school education and demand that the “former slave masters” (whomever THEY are) pay them through college, JUST like the athletically gifted are, and NO basket-weaving courses for them to get easy passing scores and demonstrably cheapen their education.

–No, of COURSE that won’t work. As we’ve already found out, when “everyone” has a college education, having that level of education will be worthless, and they’ll only be suited to drive taxis or wait tables. Is there anything less marketable than a PhD in philosophy? A: how ’bout a Masters degree in philosophy?

Through all I’ve read/heard about NOI, it’s no more than a gang of ne’er-do-wells who want to assume power without doing the necessary work to deserve it, or know HOW to wield it effectively
(end of scn-think.)

Bill, your nightmare floors me. I would be surprised if there weren’t some “officers” who would have liked to treat you more humanely, but the bastards won out. Of COURSE I’m sure they were scared that if you stuck around, you’d spread the disease just by breathing the same air as them. I was that scared, myself, by HIV/AIDS in the early days. ‘Course, back then, we didn’t have the Internet, Google & Wiki. Some complain the last is too biased, but by comparing wiki on a few subjects to the “trusted” information sources I found by doing deep dives, I tend to trust wiki more. MicroS**t’s Encarta had/has known, well-documented biases, like giving different answers based on country. I’m astounded how good the wikis are for scientology topics; neither too much party line nor particularly anti-. I doubt I could be so fair to the organization now claiming to be scientology. Wiki’s strength is that all sides, within reason, can contribute to pages they are concerned with. Also that it often is “right up to the minute”, so sometimes updated only a few days or hours ago on current news/topics. like MAGIC!

His whole 3 years! Lol

I was not “Beached” per se. I had a flight to LA and $1800 in cash and the org paid my room and board.
My beef with them is mainly that they held my wife against her will and, since I was clearly dying, I did not know if I would ever see her again. This along with the bogus medical treatment, ensured that I would die unnecessarily. My wife got off the ship just in time to get me to a real doctor.

Thanks Jere,

I did get benefits from the training on the grades and auditing through ot3. The promise of exterior abilities kept me hanging around until 83/84. *I* became satisfied there was nothing more in ‘Hubbard’s Cupboard’ and left.

The fact that staff never got paid well, or trained and audited, and the endless cope of the organization had always kept me at some distance. If it works so well— why the hell doesn’t it work so well! Its still interesting to follow the decline of the movement even as Hubbard lived. The ‘Cupboard” IS bare.

Yup, otherles, Steve Bushemi was a real volunteer — and hero, but isn’t trying to profit from it somehow. Just another example of what scientology is NOT.

Right, PickAnotherID;

Unless they quit throwing all sorts of “other” purposes in to CF, they’ll never get up to PT. By finding, learning and ENFORCING the basic CF policies, I was able to single-handedly bring Flag’s CF up to PT for the first time in its history. After I was “let go”, I heard that they had three people in there and it was getting progressively more a shambles. They
HAD my full hat and write-up, and the tools I’d built with my own two little hands, yet they couldn’t resist adding “stuff” to their workload that threw them ever into confusion and disarray.