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		By: Africanus		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163885</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I first began to study this, the parallels between Alexander Soltzenhitsyns &quot;Gulag Archipelago&quot; are unmistakable. The use of moral or ethical reconditioning, labor as punishment, the use of acronyms for everything, completely hijacking language, thus thought, the paranoid megalomaniac at the top who sees enemies everywhere. The illogical absurdity of it all. And the masses immobilized by fear. Neighbor turning in neighbor. On and on. I encourage you to read it if you haven&#039;t already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first began to study this, the parallels between Alexander Soltzenhitsyns &#8220;Gulag Archipelago&#8221; are unmistakable. The use of moral or ethical reconditioning, labor as punishment, the use of acronyms for everything, completely hijacking language, thus thought, the paranoid megalomaniac at the top who sees enemies everywhere. The illogical absurdity of it all. And the masses immobilized by fear. Neighbor turning in neighbor. On and on. I encourage you to read it if you haven&#8217;t already.</p>
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		By: Zephfyrus		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163556</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 03:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was this video by Vice Films that I first screened several years ago that finally convinced me that $cientology was a &quot;cult&quot;:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was this video by Vice Films that I first screened several years ago that finally convinced me that $cientology was a &#8220;cult&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3</a></p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163546</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 02:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163490&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

I was referring to the Snr C/S FSSO as the person who briefed me on VIII before the ship started delivering it.

I&#039;ve never even heard of Richard Reiss.  He wasn&#039;t in any senior tech positions in scientology when I was in the SO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163490">chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03</a>.</p>
<p>I was referring to the Snr C/S FSSO as the person who briefed me on VIII before the ship started delivering it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never even heard of Richard Reiss.  He wasn&#8217;t in any senior tech positions in scientology when I was in the SO.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163493</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162448&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Marty&#039;s site is a goldmine for leads, thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162448">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Marty&#8217;s site is a goldmine for leads, thanks!</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163491</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163490&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the sequence was David Mayo, Ray Mitoff, Jeff Walker, John Eastment, Richard Reiss, Caroline Webb for the Senior C/S FSO job, in sequence over the years.

Senior C/S Int job, I think ought be laid out in sequence, something like



Otto Roos kind of held the top &quot;tech&quot; job and John McMasters before him and Reg Sharpe before McMasters   and some others in there also

David Mayo
Ray Mitoff  (off and on, leaving the job sort of vacant)
Dan Koon (others too, and I wish Dan would repeat the sequence he knows of, from time to time, to solidify the sequence for posterity)

I wonder who today even is &quot;holding Senior C/S Int&quot; from above, over the blank/empty years for that job,  if anyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163490">chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03</a>.</p>
<p>I think the sequence was David Mayo, Ray Mitoff, Jeff Walker, John Eastment, Richard Reiss, Caroline Webb for the Senior C/S FSO job, in sequence over the years.</p>
<p>Senior C/S Int job, I think ought be laid out in sequence, something like</p>
<p>Otto Roos kind of held the top &#8220;tech&#8221; job and John McMasters before him and Reg Sharpe before McMasters   and some others in there also</p>
<p>David Mayo<br />
Ray Mitoff  (off and on, leaving the job sort of vacant)<br />
Dan Koon (others too, and I wish Dan would repeat the sequence he knows of, from time to time, to solidify the sequence for posterity)</p>
<p>I wonder who today even is &#8220;holding Senior C/S Int&#8221; from above, over the blank/empty years for that job,  if anyone.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162627&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Deceased Senior C/S FSO Richard Reiss?    I remember his onetime visit to Int for cleanup as FSO Snr C/S, he was made do lots of cleaning duties, and the daily Int Base buses were for a short time his daily cleaning station.   Then Richard&#039;s predecessor was John Eastment, boy I sure wish John and Peggy would defect, John has stories I wish he&#039;d tell.   John Eastment became bus driver in later years, a sad demotion of such a long and dedicated Sea Org tech &quot;giant&quot;, Class 12 C/S, former CS-5 and CS-4/5, John has years of Hubbard facetime history, all meaning nothing today in his life---Peggy and he ought get out so badly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162627">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Deceased Senior C/S FSO Richard Reiss?    I remember his onetime visit to Int for cleanup as FSO Snr C/S, he was made do lots of cleaning duties, and the daily Int Base buses were for a short time his daily cleaning station.   Then Richard&#8217;s predecessor was John Eastment, boy I sure wish John and Peggy would defect, John has stories I wish he&#8217;d tell.   John Eastment became bus driver in later years, a sad demotion of such a long and dedicated Sea Org tech &#8220;giant&#8221;, Class 12 C/S, former CS-5 and CS-4/5, John has years of Hubbard facetime history, all meaning nothing today in his life&#8212;Peggy and he ought get out so badly.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163489</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163445&quot;&gt;Craig Rose&lt;/a&gt;.

totalitarian institutionalized quackery,

 &quot;New and Improved Totalitarian Cult Members Produced Here&quot;


&quot;Do you think Xenu&#039;s &quot;body-theran&quot; exorcism can&#039;t be sold?!   Think again!   Scientology Soul Exorcism Sold Here&quot;


&quot;Experience Institutionalized Cutting Edge Totalitarian  Thought Control For Yourself Here&quot;

 are protest signs I&#039;d like someday to hold up as my freespeech protest right.  

But, then again, there is always the non totalitarian form of Scientology, all the same courses, but simpler, more benign, less totalitarian settings to learn and do all the same mental past-lives engram trauma hunting and the &quot;body-thetan&quot; exorcism too, if you wish.   

The totalitarian North Korea aspect of Scientology are not so much used by freezone Scientology.

Freezone Scientology possibly could be more traditional religion like, but then the freezone doesn&#039;t do have the money to do the PR stuff that official totalitarian Scientology&#039;s full money grubbing setup has perfected to pretend &quot;good works&quot; to the community.

Such deep paradoxes to the whole Scientology practitioners today.   The freezone more benign Scientologists who aren&#039;t nonstop North Korean totalistic, they don&#039;t have the money to fake normal religious actions like official North Korean Scientology does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-163445">Craig Rose</a>.</p>
<p>totalitarian institutionalized quackery,</p>
<p> &#8220;New and Improved Totalitarian Cult Members Produced Here&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you think Xenu&#8217;s &#8220;body-theran&#8221; exorcism can&#8217;t be sold?!   Think again!   Scientology Soul Exorcism Sold Here&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Experience Institutionalized Cutting Edge Totalitarian  Thought Control For Yourself Here&#8221;</p>
<p> are protest signs I&#8217;d like someday to hold up as my freespeech protest right.  </p>
<p>But, then again, there is always the non totalitarian form of Scientology, all the same courses, but simpler, more benign, less totalitarian settings to learn and do all the same mental past-lives engram trauma hunting and the &#8220;body-thetan&#8221; exorcism too, if you wish.   </p>
<p>The totalitarian North Korea aspect of Scientology are not so much used by freezone Scientology.</p>
<p>Freezone Scientology possibly could be more traditional religion like, but then the freezone doesn&#8217;t do have the money to do the PR stuff that official totalitarian Scientology&#8217;s full money grubbing setup has perfected to pretend &#8220;good works&#8221; to the community.</p>
<p>Such deep paradoxes to the whole Scientology practitioners today.   The freezone more benign Scientologists who aren&#8217;t nonstop North Korean totalistic, they don&#8217;t have the money to fake normal religious actions like official North Korean Scientology does.</p>
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		By: Craig Rose		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162487&quot;&gt;Shay&lt;/a&gt;.

Often during family discussions, and I have a large family, I say: Our two biggest problems are North Korea and Scientology! Everybody sitting around the pasta bolognese laughs at me. They say, what the hell are you talking about? Yet, you seem to see the same connection. What I see are two ideologies surrounded by lies absolutely headed towards destruction ,taking their people down with them. In reference to North Korea, over 75% of their people are staving. Eventually they will destroy themselves. Scientology on the other hand is going to need a push.I realize that the most obvious villain is David Miscavige.This guy is a serious asshole and in the end he will bury himself. The only way to destroy this organization is to debunk L. Ron Hubbard. Prove to the world he was only a con artist with a great idea to separate his followers from their money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162487">Shay</a>.</p>
<p>Often during family discussions, and I have a large family, I say: Our two biggest problems are North Korea and Scientology! Everybody sitting around the pasta bolognese laughs at me. They say, what the hell are you talking about? Yet, you seem to see the same connection. What I see are two ideologies surrounded by lies absolutely headed towards destruction ,taking their people down with them. In reference to North Korea, over 75% of their people are staving. Eventually they will destroy themselves. Scientology on the other hand is going to need a push.I realize that the most obvious villain is David Miscavige.This guy is a serious asshole and in the end he will bury himself. The only way to destroy this organization is to debunk L. Ron Hubbard. Prove to the world he was only a con artist with a great idea to separate his followers from their money.</p>
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		By: omegapaladin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162456&quot;&gt;Susan&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, you could try to get Devious Miscarriage into a fight with Trump or someone he cares about.  SCN would be taxed again - only now at 70%.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162456">Susan</a>.</p>
<p>Well, you could try to get Devious Miscarriage into a fight with Trump or someone he cares about.  SCN would be taxed again &#8211; only now at 70%.</p>
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		By: LesJolies Choses		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162668</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162469&quot;&gt;Tommy Prophet&lt;/a&gt;.

...@Tommy 
your reply made my day...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologynorth-korea/#comment-162469">Tommy Prophet</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;@Tommy<br />
your reply made my day&#8230;</p>
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