That’s my position, jim. I love the tech but I don’t like the way that the cherch operates.

I still think we should pulp them and press them into TP..

Wow you still have that stuff….I burn’t my last two Scieno books a couple of weeks ago. It was soooooo satisfying burning the ethics book ????

Well after the whole procedure ppl would be told they would receive their refund but off course nothing happened. Quite a few lost their will to fight for it after being bullied with remarks about how they would forfeit their refund if they went to a lawyer or the media. The cases where money was given back that came out of new donations. (Big fat APs rugged specifically for that reason)

Ok, well, Alco, verbal appreciation is nice and all, but where is my tee shirt? A pin, a plaque – something! Put in a word for me. Status is everything.

That must have been awful. You’re just stuck, can’t fight back or you’ll get in all kinds of trouble. I would want to argue that they failed to deliver and I’d have a zillion references to back it up, starting with KSW 1, (the only thing you can be upbraided for is…”) …. and by doing so …I’d get creamed and end up dead ..right.

What did you end up doing?

I tell ya, it was tricky to Get My Mind Right during all of this. It was …. a stretch….

For me, from the outset, Scn was mind-blowingly perfect/amazing fun and also terror/horror/find-your-steel-or-die all or nothing ride. Through 4 decades I weathered changes and adapted my mind so I could keep the faith of getting to OT.

The last Hurrah of GAT 2 was right after a particularly difficult time for me personally, then came GAT 2, then came much worse and it all fell apart.

Suffice to say, I’m glad I was there for it and for all the hell after. Without that I wouldn’t have shattered …and thus… been reborn!

It took A LOT. and every day is worth it.

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and these days….oh..but I laugh at “Flag” and its perfection. It’s ridiculous in itself and it’s a lie to boot! It’s not even a real fantasy.

Well, Aqua, all I can say to that is thank you for supporting Goodwill.

Incredible post, RVW. What a “Mecca of Technical Perfection” Flog became that night! Beyond the beyond! The worst, the very worst place to study! As someone who enjoyed my courses, back in the day at my little org, I’m shuddering, and at the same time furious, and at the same time deeply thankful I never had the time, or else the money (and sometimes both) to go to Flag!

Finally Free, I’m glad to know that, thanks to Mike and Leah, you are finally free! As a former staff member, I helped with call-in and when someone would demand to be taken off the list we would pretend to take their name and address, tell them that their name had been taken off the list, and then put their CF folder aside for the next time. I hated doing this as it was so dishonest. Only if they threatened to call their lawyer or the cops would we cease and desist. I am so glad that I am no longer involved with that organization!