One of the most important differences between the 60s and 70s and today is …

Back then, when people heard that this organization was out to help the entire population of this planet by bringing them mental health and eliminating all form of evil emotions and actions, they would think, “Wow! Wouldn’t that be great?”

And you know what? It would be great. But, as it turned out, the entire sales pitch was nothing but a cruel cover-up for a criminal cash grab. By the turn of the century, most every other person knows that. So, anyone who approaches a friend today and asks them about Scaminology, gets the true lowdown. After that, they can’t stay far enough away from this criminal cult.

I think that is one major reason why this thing is now on its last legs and has nowhere else to go … except maybe to the peneteniary that has been waiting for Miss Cabbage for all these many years.

I pray to God that it won’t take much longer for the “tipping point” to be reached and the overall consensus will change so that it won’t be long before the DM is arrested and imprisoned and the entire organization crumbles into a heap of rubble as it so richly deserves.

In his magical mind, I suspect he expects to expand SK into a monster set of whales in Eastern Asia who can be browbeaten into padding his bank account(s), allowing him to diversify his currency holdings for when the “stuff” hits the fan and he has to do a fade-out.

Tick-tock Davey Boy. get your ducks AND escape routes in a row. Tatoo those bank account numbers and passwords on the inside of your eyelids.

Those monstrosities are too big for any org to have supported; Other than FLOG, of course, which was essentially the first ideal org: plopped down in the middle of nowhere, scientologically speaking, taking over an abandoned/underutilized white elephant staffed by 1000 or so crewmembers shipped in from far and wide, never accepted into the local community, never bringing ONE brand-new person into the fold. It survives to this day solely because it can offer “products” unavailable elsewhere and it’s the ultimate stop on the Bridge. Freewinds subsists on the crumbs left over from Flog.

My new maxim is: Never ever loan money to a Scn. I lost money I loaned to Scns cuz they never paid it back. But I saw it over and over again that other Scns wouldn’t pay back the money they borrowed for either their Bridge progress or for the IAS donation or whatever. So a CSW like that means nothing. It wouldn’t get paid back. I’m curious though, Chris: Did they loan yu the $18,000 that you asked for?

Oh and if you get declared which is happening to many, then they never pay you because that would mean they are connected to an SP. They heave a sigh of relief when you get declared because that means they don’t have to pay you back.

yep….that…and of course, the usual blame. The staff are to blame. They just weren’t on purpose, had other fish to fry, were reasonable, and so on.

I call my interest morbid because I think that there is an ugly side to it. It’s somewhat like, I want to know just how bad it is in gory detail, and then I’ll be even gladder that I’m not there. I admit this, but it seems like a character flaw.

I do feel bad for them, I was one of ’em to the hilt. Never in a million years dreamed I’d ever think otherwise. I feel bad for them and I treat them kindly, so I’m not a total asshole. But perhaps…. assholey at times. 🙂

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I NEVER bought into the field of dreams ideal org strat, and was of course careful about not commenting on it, except for a couple carefully placed comments – but my absence from all things Ideal Org game spoke for me.

I can’t wait to hear the stories from Cl V staff who wake up and leave – I want to hear what was really going on in their minds throughout the “engram” of getting to ideal. (I’ve heard a fair bit about the trauma of CC going Old Saint Hill – total war zone and guillotines around every corner)

Mary, I remember watching an interview on youtube with Chris Shelton and Robyn Capella where she says that she worked on the library project and they would send the books out to the libraries and they would one for one be returned….they had boxes and boxes of returned books. Just FYI.

Not morbid at all, Rip. I’m curious as hell about what the staff are going thru now, which I think is hell, btw. And yes, especially the old timers. I also know of staff who’ve been there 4 decades. They’ll never leave. Nor will they ever admit to non staff how deplorable the stats are. They’ll go down with the ship, and they’ll have a neat, nicely wrapped Shore Story fed to them about why it all didn’t work out which will have very little to do with the truth! But, never mind, they’ll believe it. Big Pharma, the psychs, we were expanding too much, too fast, they had to obliterate us because SuMP meant that Planetary Clearing was actually going to happen for real this time and they had to do us in with lies and Black PR,…you get the idea. The cult will implode but they’ll cling to their fictions, their delusions, because that’s all they will have left. In fact, their fictions and delusions are all they have NOW but they don’t know that quite yet.

is this something you wrote, or someone else wrote?

Either way, it’s pretty awful.

I worked hard at a business and made enough money to buy my OT Levels after I stopped being staff. Soon after, I had about a dozen requests of this sort – loans for their own various bridge aspirations, and even a couple asking to pay or donate to someone trying to pay off debts to go into the SO.

I said heck no. I didn’t have tons extra anyway, and why would I do anything so chancey?

In hindsight, it’s a double blessing. I didn’t lose my cash on bad ideas, and didn’t help anyone ruin their own life in this one way. (as opposed to decades of staff work to get people in and on)

I was staff a looooong time… and I would say that I have a morbid interest in the state of orgs and what it’s like to be staff these days.

It just has to be Hell. Especially for the old timers, I know staff who have been there for 40 years.

I’m sooo glad for being free.

I’ll go plant some flowers today and putter about, eating fresh strawberries.

All the orgs are small now, I’d bet. What you shared, Super Mom, about your org and the people getting fed up with the expansion lies, very likely applies to all of the orgs at this point.