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		By: azhlynne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-161045&quot;&gt;Luwanda Dunfee&lt;/a&gt;.

I have been wondering the same thing. I did read something that said that maybe they would not want to be saved. They are so programmed to believe that they are at fault as well as the threats of Disconnection that if they were asked if they wanted to leave they&#039;d decline. On the other hand, if there is even one person in there being held against their will that does want out, I have wondered about hiring PI&#039;s to put the place under surveillance, maybe even to sneak in (hey, if people can go over the fence to get out surely someone trained could go over to get in?) and get video or photographic proof of the conditions? I have also wondered about having people hiding around the Hemet base, keeping watch for anyone trying to escape and then stepping in to help them. Operation Freedom.]]></description>
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<p>I have been wondering the same thing. I did read something that said that maybe they would not want to be saved. They are so programmed to believe that they are at fault as well as the threats of Disconnection that if they were asked if they wanted to leave they&#8217;d decline. On the other hand, if there is even one person in there being held against their will that does want out, I have wondered about hiring PI&#8217;s to put the place under surveillance, maybe even to sneak in (hey, if people can go over the fence to get out surely someone trained could go over to get in?) and get video or photographic proof of the conditions? I have also wondered about having people hiding around the Hemet base, keeping watch for anyone trying to escape and then stepping in to help them. Operation Freedom.</p>
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		By: L Yash		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-162676&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3u3hm9_ghost-adventures-season-12-episode-02-secret-scientology-lab_shortfilms



The house was named Case De Rosas, supposedly was the center of operations for the early beginnings of Dianetics........the episode talks of what is the early beginnings  including mentioning what sounds like &quot;auditing&quot;....

You first have to get past the first few minutes before LRH name is mentioned and suggestions of occult and, black magic, and other things going on..  

I saw the episode too, and thought anyone might like to take a look.]]></description>
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<p><a href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3u3hm9_ghost-adventures-season-12-episode-02-secret-scientology-lab_shortfilms" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3u3hm9_ghost-adventures-season-12-episode-02-secret-scientology-lab_shortfilms</a></p>
<p>The house was named Case De Rosas, supposedly was the center of operations for the early beginnings of Dianetics&#8230;&#8230;..the episode talks of what is the early beginnings  including mentioning what sounds like &#8220;auditing&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>You first have to get past the first few minutes before LRH name is mentioned and suggestions of occult and, black magic, and other things going on..  </p>
<p>I saw the episode too, and thought anyone might like to take a look.</p>
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		By: Barbara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-160845&quot;&gt;Margaret Seamons&lt;/a&gt;.

Margaret said it so beautifully and I could not agree more.]]></description>
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<p>Margaret said it so beautifully and I could not agree more.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-162662&quot;&gt;Rae Gallagher&lt;/a&gt;.

I havent seen it and am no expert on this subject. Google is your friend. I also suggest you read Barefaced Messiah and Going Clear. There is a lot of information in there about this subject.]]></description>
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<p>I havent seen it and am no expert on this subject. Google is your friend. I also suggest you read Barefaced Messiah and Going Clear. There is a lot of information in there about this subject.</p>
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		By: Rae Gallagher		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-161384&quot;&gt;Erin webb&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike have you ever seen travel channels ghost adventures episode from Season 12 episode 2 February 2016 where they investigate a home near Los Angeles that LRH and others pretty much dabbled in satanic stuff. 
The group consisted of, L. Ron Hubbard, Anton LaVey, Aleister Crowley and Ellipsis Levi.  The story goes, Anton and Aleister were the Magicians, the spell casters.  
Mike could you please let me know if these names ring any bells with you? The episode ghost adventures did was pretty disturbing, especially when they discuss the fact that Aleister Crowley created the religion known as Thelema. what is thelema?]]></description>
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<p>Mike have you ever seen travel channels ghost adventures episode from Season 12 episode 2 February 2016 where they investigate a home near Los Angeles that LRH and others pretty much dabbled in satanic stuff.<br />
The group consisted of, L. Ron Hubbard, Anton LaVey, Aleister Crowley and Ellipsis Levi.  The story goes, Anton and Aleister were the Magicians, the spell casters.<br />
Mike could you please let me know if these names ring any bells with you? The episode ghost adventures did was pretty disturbing, especially when they discuss the fact that Aleister Crowley created the religion known as Thelema. what is thelema?</p>
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		By: Rae Gallagher		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-160855&quot;&gt;Paddy O&#039;Furniture&lt;/a&gt;.

In regards to LRH and the beginnings of pre Scientology, there was an episode of Ghost Adventures recently where Zak B and crew did a lockdown in a house in (I think) Los Angeles where someone was locked in a closet by LRH (again I am not 100% certain it was LRH) and others and kept there until they were completely mentally forced into absolute submission to LRH and/or members. I will now have to go and search for the episode and date aired and post it for you. Just wanted to inform everyone that Scientology abuses and violations of laws are going viral, viral to the extent that ghost adventures investigated a building used by LRH. 
THANK YOU MIKE &#038; LEAH for coming forward and airing it on TV. 
Thank you A&#038;E for not succumbing to DM&#039;s empty threats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-160855">Paddy O&#8217;Furniture</a>.</p>
<p>In regards to LRH and the beginnings of pre Scientology, there was an episode of Ghost Adventures recently where Zak B and crew did a lockdown in a house in (I think) Los Angeles where someone was locked in a closet by LRH (again I am not 100% certain it was LRH) and others and kept there until they were completely mentally forced into absolute submission to LRH and/or members. I will now have to go and search for the episode and date aired and post it for you. Just wanted to inform everyone that Scientology abuses and violations of laws are going viral, viral to the extent that ghost adventures investigated a building used by LRH.<br />
THANK YOU MIKE &amp; LEAH for coming forward and airing it on TV.<br />
Thank you A&amp;E for not succumbing to DM&#8217;s empty threats.</p>
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		By: Hilary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-161128&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I live in Canada. I left Scn. I am sure that  abuse is not just happening in the US but I am sure across the world. Thank you both  for stepping forward Leah and Mike your determination to expose Scn. for what it really is admirable.  I am so pleased I watched the series it was an eye opener for me and I do hope that thousands who thought of joining have decided this is &quot;NOT&quot; for them.... I enjoyed your series so much. I was shocked to know that LRH war record was a fraud. The lies... I have attended so many events....to be honest I truly didn&#039;t believe all the &quot;stats&quot; and express so, but not to another Scn. I knew better. You both exposed what people who wanted to leave and tried too had gone through, to see and listen to the abuses was so terrible I cried. I read your story of leaving Mike it is amazing how far Scn. will go to try and get someone back.  What real Church punishes those who wish to leave I would like to know? I also would like to know what happened to head of CCHR Int. sorry I can&#039;t remember his name right now but suddenly he was gone. No explanation nothing, have not heard anything I do hope he is okay.  He was so popular...that could of been something David Miscavige couldn&#039;t handle. Fear is the worse human feeling.... fear of leaving, fear of not being able to see your family, your children, your friends, fear of &quot;what will happen to me? What will they (Scn.) do to me if they catch me?!!! My good grief to live like that is something I have and pray I never will have to go through. For those who have left I ask them to trust in themselves, seek help if needed, be brave and step forward the more information that is brought forward the more chips into the armor of Scn. It will fall if enough exposure is done. There are many people who escaped who are willing to advise and help anyone who left, as Mike and Leah have shown. For staff members seek help too, I know what they can do to you as well as I have seen many &#039;golden rod&quot; notices. I wonder if the staff and Sea Org members are eating just rice and beans because their stats were down. I am sure the stats are down with your series running for such a long time. Not much David Miscavige can do, but hide behind doors and abuse those who did not stop your series what a nasty man he is, I feel sorry for those who will receive his abuse. Power in the wrong hands is something I consider the closes thing to evil as one can be. It goes to ones head and that person feels nothing can stop them...wrong...they will  be stopped.   I truly would like to see the word Church be removed as it is not a church. The IRS should look into this organization, as that is all it is. Once the word Church is removed all the abuses can be exposed and charges laid against those who ordered the abuses especially David Miscavige as he &quot;has the power&quot; to do whatever he wants he needs to be exposed him...... it is time. Again thank you both so much for bringing forward the  truth.  I am looking forward to more series I know you both won&#039;t give up, it is time to help expose the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-161128">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I live in Canada. I left Scn. I am sure that  abuse is not just happening in the US but I am sure across the world. Thank you both  for stepping forward Leah and Mike your determination to expose Scn. for what it really is admirable.  I am so pleased I watched the series it was an eye opener for me and I do hope that thousands who thought of joining have decided this is &#8220;NOT&#8221; for them&#8230;. I enjoyed your series so much. I was shocked to know that LRH war record was a fraud. The lies&#8230; I have attended so many events&#8230;.to be honest I truly didn&#8217;t believe all the &#8220;stats&#8221; and express so, but not to another Scn. I knew better. You both exposed what people who wanted to leave and tried too had gone through, to see and listen to the abuses was so terrible I cried. I read your story of leaving Mike it is amazing how far Scn. will go to try and get someone back.  What real Church punishes those who wish to leave I would like to know? I also would like to know what happened to head of CCHR Int. sorry I can&#8217;t remember his name right now but suddenly he was gone. No explanation nothing, have not heard anything I do hope he is okay.  He was so popular&#8230;that could of been something David Miscavige couldn&#8217;t handle. Fear is the worse human feeling&#8230;. fear of leaving, fear of not being able to see your family, your children, your friends, fear of &#8220;what will happen to me? What will they (Scn.) do to me if they catch me?!!! My good grief to live like that is something I have and pray I never will have to go through. For those who have left I ask them to trust in themselves, seek help if needed, be brave and step forward the more information that is brought forward the more chips into the armor of Scn. It will fall if enough exposure is done. There are many people who escaped who are willing to advise and help anyone who left, as Mike and Leah have shown. For staff members seek help too, I know what they can do to you as well as I have seen many &#8216;golden rod&#8221; notices. I wonder if the staff and Sea Org members are eating just rice and beans because their stats were down. I am sure the stats are down with your series running for such a long time. Not much David Miscavige can do, but hide behind doors and abuse those who did not stop your series what a nasty man he is, I feel sorry for those who will receive his abuse. Power in the wrong hands is something I consider the closes thing to evil as one can be. It goes to ones head and that person feels nothing can stop them&#8230;wrong&#8230;they will  be stopped.   I truly would like to see the word Church be removed as it is not a church. The IRS should look into this organization, as that is all it is. Once the word Church is removed all the abuses can be exposed and charges laid against those who ordered the abuses especially David Miscavige as he &#8220;has the power&#8221; to do whatever he wants he needs to be exposed him&#8230;&#8230; it is time. Again thank you both so much for bringing forward the  truth.  I am looking forward to more series I know you both won&#8217;t give up, it is time to help expose the truth.</p>
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		By: Dchoice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 05:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientologytheaftermath-2nd-reddit-ama/#comment-161016&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

OK sorry Mike and readers. Sheila has discussed this with Janis Grady and Sheila admits it was not you who she was remembering of that time 37 or so years ago. She asked me to post a link to her discussing the sorting out of her error.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37090-Snow-White-Redux-a-smoking-derringer&#038;p=1130393&#038;viewfull=1#post1130393]]></description>
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<p>OK sorry Mike and readers. Sheila has discussed this with Janis Grady and Sheila admits it was not you who she was remembering of that time 37 or so years ago. She asked me to post a link to her discussing the sorting out of her error.<br />
<a href="http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37090-Snow-White-Redux-a-smoking-derringer&#038;p=1130393&#038;viewfull=1#post1130393" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37090-Snow-White-Redux-a-smoking-derringer&#038;p=1130393&#038;viewfull=1#post1130393</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 16:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for opening my eyes to the evils of Scientology even though I haven&#039;t had any personal experience it&#039;s heartbreaking to see how it&#039;s destroyed so many lives. You, Leah, and A&#038;E are so brave and I know you are making a huge difference- keep going! My entire family has watched every show with eager anticipation!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for opening my eyes to the evils of Scientology even though I haven&#8217;t had any personal experience it&#8217;s heartbreaking to see how it&#8217;s destroyed so many lives. You, Leah, and A&amp;E are so brave and I know you are making a huge difference- keep going! My entire family has watched every show with eager anticipation!!</p>
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		By: arno		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Leah &#038; @Mike: 
Please take down the Scientology SYSTEM  MACHINE, not only it&#039;s PSEUDO leader -&#062; D.M? Who cares about D.M? BUT sitting on $$$ for more than 25 years, makes him powerful enough to laugh at us (humans) on a daily basis. And with the wonderful help of e.g. &quot;Christian&quot; Mrs. Mc Muffins and similar holy &quot;law families&quot;, who specialize(d) making money with CULTS and their love to protect NRM&#039;s (New Religious Movements), and &quot;Führer&quot;-persons like D.M. 
MC, Mindcontrol - back to basic terms. And taking a CLEAR stand - Steve Hassan - this man clearly made his - universal - human point of view, against any sort of mind-abuse, very lucid. Made me cry. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leah &amp; @Mike:<br />
Please take down the Scientology SYSTEM  MACHINE, not only it&#8217;s PSEUDO leader -&gt; D.M? Who cares about D.M? BUT sitting on $$$ for more than 25 years, makes him powerful enough to laugh at us (humans) on a daily basis. And with the wonderful help of e.g. &#8220;Christian&#8221; Mrs. Mc Muffins and similar holy &#8220;law families&#8221;, who specialize(d) making money with CULTS and their love to protect NRM&#8217;s (New Religious Movements), and &#8220;Führer&#8221;-persons like D.M.<br />
MC, Mindcontrol &#8211; back to basic terms. And taking a CLEAR stand &#8211; Steve Hassan &#8211; this man clearly made his &#8211; universal &#8211; human point of view, against any sort of mind-abuse, very lucid. Made me cry. Thank you.</p>
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