Hmmmmm. Are we going to have OSA Troll for breakfast or is that really you Dave?

I have so much to tell you good folks. 😉

Well, there’s certainly enough of it which you could say has workabilities, usefulnesses and/or just plain common sense that gives it that veneer of validity and is what probably attracts most people initially. How much of it was plagiarized is difficult to say and is almost irrelevant. Some of it works and can produce positive results. Hubbard stated something to the effect he’d be offended if you believed everything he said without a subjective test of it for oneself. (That he also wrote KSW1 – amongst many other stark examples – just demonstrated how disingenuous he actually was.)

Hi Eamonn Gosney, Good to see your post. Following Richard Hello! & your comments I thought I might add that I too never had children.All my younger sibs have and have felt for years I should not be part of all their children’s’ now grown lives because I did not have any.
Truth be told my late Mom beat me weekly sometimes daily from age five or so until 15 when I told her never to touch me again.All knew of this but concurred it was my fault not hers.My late Dad was traveling the world with Wall St and was not engaged in anyway with my Mom’s stuff,She did what she wanted.Not maternal to me at all.
Then on an island at 15 I was brutally raped by a family friend who was 30. My parents believed him not me and I was the baddie in the act.So not true it was unbelievable.So on I went with my secrets and lies.It was tough.
I wanted badly a child or two but then medical stuff and a miscarriage took over at 39. The point of all this is I feel for all children and want them all safe and strong and loved.That is why I hate what the Sea Org and Ron dm do about kids.I felt so bad for those SO kids in the old children’s org years ago at Asho D & F.Thank you.I will be in touch Eamonn.XO Ann.

Hi Richard

“I never had children.”

Neither did I — decided not to (didn’t feel it would be fair for them to have a grandfather who was a rapist).

My mother was a young nurses’ aide who was raped and became pregnant. Due to religious (Catholic) influences/teachings she was mentally coerced against having an abortion. I was born as a result. This happened mid-50s in Northern Ireland. I had a mentally abusive childhood as she had unresolved mental problems owing to what had happened to her.

“Thanks for sharing your interesting story.”

That wasn’t my interesting story — it was Maureen Bolstad’s (if you click the link at the bottom of the piece, you will be able to read the rest of it).

Thanks

Sorry, I know you think you are someone I know. And perhaps that is true. But I havent got a clue as you write this. Please refresh my recollection. You are just not someone that is on my radar screen and yet you keep asserting this is the case without identifying yourself. Very strange circumstance.

And as for your threatening comments that I have not posted here, if you were more polite, didn’t call me names in ALL CAPS and accuse me of being “afraid of the truth” — let’s just start at the beginning.

You identify yourself and lay out your history and experience and what you are doing and there will be a basis for some sort of dialogue. Not a tough request — you have said you have identified yourself. And I don’t recognize you. I dont know everyone admittedly, but I have asked you a few times now to simply identify yourself and you continue to refuse to do so.

You’re repeating the same old answer. That’s your contention? You have no response to my comment but the same you’ve already posted? … Pathetic! … YOU know who I am! END OF SUBJECT!

Paul – True what you say. Strangely, even after very many years out, a piece of scn here and there seems to take a “pull” at me. It’s probably something he plagiarized mixed into the bullshit – lol

Eamonn – Thanks for sharing your interesting story. I hope the sea org has totally stopped recruiting children. They may still be getting away with it in foreign countries.

I never had children but I scanned the Scn site. It seemed to have some good tips but the process type handlings might be complicated for some people. Best, Richard

I was approached in 1981, when I was 15 years old, to join staff and work for the Mission of Steven’s Creek. I was asked to sign a five year contract. So was my little brother, only 13 years old…I was recruited by a Sea Organization Recruiter from the Church of Scientology of Clearwater. He told me he was from the Flag Personnel Procurement Office. An important sounding name. The recruiter was dressed in a navy uniform and explained to me that the Sea Organization was an elite group of well organized Scientologists dedicated to resolving all the worlds problems using the new discoveries of L. Ron Hubbard about the mind and life…My mother was drunk at the time and she saw my enthusiasm, was intimidated by the guy in a navy uniform and she signed the parental consent. My little brother was there and he wanted to come with me. She signed a consent form for him too. He was only 14 years old…There were thousands of hours I spent working on my sleep time on “all-nighters.” In 1993, I added up how many hours of actual sleep time I’d been given and divided it by the number of days in that year. The average of sleep time I got in 1993 was 2.5 hours a day! ALL YEAR. 1994 was better, I averaged about 4.5 a night all year…I developed health problems and emotional problems just from the stress of never sleeping and some work related injuries. I had to quit staff. Or they kicked me out for not being as productive anymore. Whichever. I left. I “routed out” which took me three years of being forced to confess to sins and evil intentions. I just started making things up after a while. It was not fun. I totally understand why others have chosen to skip the “route out” step by simply leaving. I found it oppressive and challenging to my sanity…
http://exscientologykids.com/maureenbolstad-story/

When you come to the end say, “Tell me about it again. Where were you when Daddy was talking?” “Tell it again.” Or, simply, “Let’s see now, you were sitting on the couch when Daddy says—what does he say?” Any simple phrase which will return the child to the beginning of the scene may be used…Children understand “Tell it again.” They love to hear stories over and over again, themselves, and they love to tell their stories to an interested audience. But don’t be overly sympathetic. Show affection and interest, yes. But don’t croon or moan, “Poor baby, poor little thing!” or similar phrases. To do so may tend to prompt the child to consider the injury or upset valuable in that it got him special attention and sympathy…The more you can enter a child’s reality, the better you will be able to help him. Imitate his voice tones, his “Yeah!” “You did!” “And then what?”—adapt yourself to his graphic mimicry, widened eyes, breathless interest…If the child is in grief, a good way to begin is, “What are you crying about?” After a child has told what he is crying about a few times, each time being helped by questioning about the incident, and when his crying has abated (become less), you may ask, “What else are you crying about?”…Don’t try to stop a child from crying by simply telling him not to cry. Either handle the incident that caused the crying by asking what happened and getting him to tell about it until he is laughing, or let him cry it out while you caress or hold him…
http://www.scientologycourses.org/courses-view/children/step/read-last-part-child-upset-handling.html