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		By: Carlos Rocha		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-85567</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos Rocha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2015 01:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/revoke-scientologys-tax-exempt-status

This is the only way to stop them.  Revoke Tax Exempt Status and stop the abuse!]]></description>
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<p>This is the only way to stop them.  Revoke Tax Exempt Status and stop the abuse!</p>
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		By: gingersugerman		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-85535</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wrote my Congressman and Senators today, great idea Mike. The IRS site has a form any person can fill out to report Tax Exempt organizations for violations. There is an exact list of what violations they are interested in knowing. CoS has done every violation listed. To make a report is pretty straight forward.
1. Do a search for  IRS.gov in your browser
2. Put in the search box on the IRS site the numbers 13909 
3. Fill out form 13909 and you can mail it or email it. EIN number for Scientology is 59-2153393]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote my Congressman and Senators today, great idea Mike. The IRS site has a form any person can fill out to report Tax Exempt organizations for violations. There is an exact list of what violations they are interested in knowing. CoS has done every violation listed. To make a report is pretty straight forward.<br />
1. Do a search for  IRS.gov in your browser<br />
2. Put in the search box on the IRS site the numbers 13909<br />
3. Fill out form 13909 and you can mail it or email it. EIN number for Scientology is 59-2153393</p>
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		By: gingersugerman		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-85532</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DO YOUR PART ON REPORTING SCIENTOLOY TO THE IRS Every Report will count !!
IRS REPORT FORM .to report Scientology for violations of Tax Exempt status. 
 1. Link below on how you report it
 2. Scroll down to Form Number 13909 (suspect misconduct or wrongdoing by an exempt organization see list of violations the IRS is interested in. Scientology has done every single one of them) and click on it.
 3. Follow the Instructions and mail it or you can email it too.
4. EIN Number on the web for Scientology is 59-2153393

 http://www.irs.gov/…/How-Do-You-Report-Suspected-Tax-Fraud-…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO YOUR PART ON REPORTING SCIENTOLOY TO THE IRS Every Report will count !!<br />
IRS REPORT FORM .to report Scientology for violations of Tax Exempt status.<br />
 1. Link below on how you report it<br />
 2. Scroll down to Form Number 13909 (suspect misconduct or wrongdoing by an exempt organization see list of violations the IRS is interested in. Scientology has done every single one of them) and click on it.<br />
 3. Follow the Instructions and mail it or you can email it too.<br />
4. EIN Number on the web for Scientology is 59-2153393</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.irs.gov/…/How-Do-You-Report-Suspected-Tax-Fraud-…" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.irs.gov/…/How-Do-You-Report-Suspected-Tax-Fraud-…</a></p>
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		By: Dio		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84910</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84873&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

Indie,

When you mentioned fraud, the James and Tammy  Bakker evangelical  fiasco of the 80s, came to mind.

He was first put away for 45 yrs, with a $500,000 fine.

Then the sentence later was  reduced  to less than five yrs and the fine was dropped.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker


Read it, it is a good read, even humorous.

If Jim Bakker can be found guilty and put away, it should be easier to put DM away and keep him put away.

DM&#039;s crimes are exponentially worse than Jim Bakker&#039;s.



Dio]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84873">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>Indie,</p>
<p>When you mentioned fraud, the James and Tammy  Bakker evangelical  fiasco of the 80s, came to mind.</p>
<p>He was first put away for 45 yrs, with a $500,000 fine.</p>
<p>Then the sentence later was  reduced  to less than five yrs and the fine was dropped.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker</a></p>
<p>Read it, it is a good read, even humorous.</p>
<p>If Jim Bakker can be found guilty and put away, it should be easier to put DM away and keep him put away.</p>
<p>DM&#8217;s crimes are exponentially worse than Jim Bakker&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Dio</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Locke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84675&quot;&gt;chuckbeatty77&lt;/a&gt;.

indie8million, your question is both complex and simple at the same time.  In order to prosecute one needs enough EVIDENCE brought to a District Atty. so that he/she is willing to bring before a Grand Jury to obtain an indictment.  The evidence you bring must be strong enough, in the eyes of the DA, to warrant the time, effort and money needed to SUCCESSFULLY prosecute. (take a couple hours to study the U.S. adversarial, crim justice system &#038; U.S. Constitution)

A MUCH better idea is what Mike put forward vis-a-vis putting political pressure on the IRS to strip tax exemption.  Writing letters to people to ask for criminal prosecution is worse than useless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84675">chuckbeatty77</a>.</p>
<p>indie8million, your question is both complex and simple at the same time.  In order to prosecute one needs enough EVIDENCE brought to a District Atty. so that he/she is willing to bring before a Grand Jury to obtain an indictment.  The evidence you bring must be strong enough, in the eyes of the DA, to warrant the time, effort and money needed to SUCCESSFULLY prosecute. (take a couple hours to study the U.S. adversarial, crim justice system &amp; U.S. Constitution)</p>
<p>A MUCH better idea is what Mike put forward vis-a-vis putting political pressure on the IRS to strip tax exemption.  Writing letters to people to ask for criminal prosecution is worse than useless.</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84902</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Locke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 17:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84599&quot;&gt;barefacedmessiah&lt;/a&gt;.

barefacedmessiah, It is scattered around his blog and books.  Anything of substance has been written about by him in those two forms.  If something was repetitive in nature he probably didn&#039;t detail it over and over though.  

What EXACTLY don&#039;t you think Marty wrote about?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84599">barefacedmessiah</a>.</p>
<p>barefacedmessiah, It is scattered around his blog and books.  Anything of substance has been written about by him in those two forms.  If something was repetitive in nature he probably didn&#8217;t detail it over and over though.  </p>
<p>What EXACTLY don&#8217;t you think Marty wrote about?</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84873</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 08:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84675&quot;&gt;chuckbeatty77&lt;/a&gt;.

Point taken, Mike. I see what you mean. I was sort of playing with words to make a point with the &quot;corporation&quot; comment.  

So, in all sincerity, what CAN the government do? Even if it&#039;s a religion, if a person is guilty of racketeering, fraud, innurement, embezzelement, harrassment, battery, etc.doesn&#039;t the government have the right or the responsibility to investigate those criminal acts and prosecute to protect the citizenry?

Can people like us request/demand the govt to investigate a particular person for those federal/state crimes? Surely, if he was found guilty, they&#039;d have no choice but to put him in jail, which, of course, would accomplish the same end.

So, as American citizens, suspecting that there have been crimes committed, any or all of us can write our representatives on a local and federal level and request an investigagion, yes? 

Thanks for letting me know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84675">chuckbeatty77</a>.</p>
<p>Point taken, Mike. I see what you mean. I was sort of playing with words to make a point with the &#8220;corporation&#8221; comment.  </p>
<p>So, in all sincerity, what CAN the government do? Even if it&#8217;s a religion, if a person is guilty of racketeering, fraud, innurement, embezzelement, harrassment, battery, etc.doesn&#8217;t the government have the right or the responsibility to investigate those criminal acts and prosecute to protect the citizenry?</p>
<p>Can people like us request/demand the govt to investigate a particular person for those federal/state crimes? Surely, if he was found guilty, they&#8217;d have no choice but to put him in jail, which, of course, would accomplish the same end.</p>
<p>So, as American citizens, suspecting that there have been crimes committed, any or all of us can write our representatives on a local and federal level and request an investigagion, yes? </p>
<p>Thanks for letting me know.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84845</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Yawnalot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 01:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84699&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

Lovebigwords.
Indeed they did - research the attacks on Scientology, &#039;Arrows in the Dark&#039; is a good book for that sort of stuff and there&#039;s heaps of other books but the history of both Dianetics &#038; Scientology is peppered with examples of &quot;the game of money.&quot; There&#039;s lots of lies, intrigue and all sorts of sordid undertakings in the world of religion for profit. Like... did Hubbard die naturally or was he killed?
It&#039;s easy to research but damn near impossible to weed out the lies from the truth - good luck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84699">I Yawnalot</a>.</p>
<p>Lovebigwords.<br />
Indeed they did &#8211; research the attacks on Scientology, &#8216;Arrows in the Dark&#8217; is a good book for that sort of stuff and there&#8217;s heaps of other books but the history of both Dianetics &amp; Scientology is peppered with examples of &#8220;the game of money.&#8221; There&#8217;s lots of lies, intrigue and all sorts of sordid undertakings in the world of religion for profit. Like&#8230; did Hubbard die naturally or was he killed?<br />
It&#8217;s easy to research but damn near impossible to weed out the lies from the truth &#8211; good luck!</p>
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		By: Doug Owen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 01:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84719&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

I have a HASI Lifetime Membership.  What&#039;s that worth these days?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84719">The Oracle</a>.</p>
<p>I have a HASI Lifetime Membership.  What&#8217;s that worth these days?</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84661&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you Mike.  I personally saw a refund cycle take place with friends of mine in the 80&#039;s.  They were given their money back with no problem upon request.  But after the IRS oversight ended later on, I never saw people getting money back even when doing the routing form and proper things etc.  The only one I knew who got money back was Carisa Marion who threatened legal and so they gave it to her.  Other than her no one I knew who requested money back after the IRS oversight ended ever got it back.  I hope the Garcias appeal their decision.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/should-scientology-be-tax-exempt/#comment-84661">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you Mike.  I personally saw a refund cycle take place with friends of mine in the 80&#8217;s.  They were given their money back with no problem upon request.  But after the IRS oversight ended later on, I never saw people getting money back even when doing the routing form and proper things etc.  The only one I knew who got money back was Carisa Marion who threatened legal and so they gave it to her.  Other than her no one I knew who requested money back after the IRS oversight ended ever got it back.  I hope the Garcias appeal their decision.</p>
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