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		By: Yawn		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very enlightening and razor accurate (once the initial nausea wears off of inspecting some the people you have known and placed faith in or worse, became are a lot closer to you than you realized). I know this is a Scientology based blog, but this information spreads out way past explaining those destructive puppets lead by one of those sociopathic monsters. Going to have to get that book.  
Geezers! It talks about the &quot;present time&quot; of 4% of people or if put in another, more scarier way, one in 25 people. 
Explains a lot if one looks, especially at your own emotional responses one sort of learns to brush off so easily, but they do make you wonder sometimes what&#039;s wrong with you. Hardest thing to grasp imo, is that you can&#039;t logically, emotionally reason with someone who has no conscience, who just operates off a bunch of pat but socially convincing responses, except to gaslight yourself. Or per the old saying, &quot;sell your soul to the devil.&quot; Hell of a booby trap to walk into, especially if the stakes are high! Unfortunately, those personalities have no idea what remorse is... 
Great educative line of posts Mike, miles better than Hubbard&#039;s PTS bs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very enlightening and razor accurate (once the initial nausea wears off of inspecting some the people you have known and placed faith in or worse, became are a lot closer to you than you realized). I know this is a Scientology based blog, but this information spreads out way past explaining those destructive puppets lead by one of those sociopathic monsters. Going to have to get that book.<br />
Geezers! It talks about the &#8220;present time&#8221; of 4% of people or if put in another, more scarier way, one in 25 people.<br />
Explains a lot if one looks, especially at your own emotional responses one sort of learns to brush off so easily, but they do make you wonder sometimes what&#8217;s wrong with you. Hardest thing to grasp imo, is that you can&#8217;t logically, emotionally reason with someone who has no conscience, who just operates off a bunch of pat but socially convincing responses, except to gaslight yourself. Or per the old saying, &#8220;sell your soul to the devil.&#8221; Hell of a booby trap to walk into, especially if the stakes are high! Unfortunately, those personalities have no idea what remorse is&#8230;<br />
Great educative line of posts Mike, miles better than Hubbard&#8217;s PTS bs.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2024 19:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570280&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Interesting that Kotric is out of the SO. During his tenure as CO CLO EU he was detested by quite a number of the EDs in Europe.&quot;

I found out he was out of the SO only a couple of years ago. It amuses me that you know he wasn&#039;t liked by many European EDs. Indeed, even though he wasn&#039;t their &#039;senior&#039; (that was the Folo pgms chf), when he caught some EDs who were downstat or disliked by him, he treated them poorly and scolded them heavily in front of everyone. But no one ever dared to tell him anything. His position had nothing to do with leading the orgs; he often reminisced about the good times when he was in Russia or in the lrh house unit]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570280">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Interesting that Kotric is out of the SO. During his tenure as CO CLO EU he was detested by quite a number of the EDs in Europe.&#8221;</p>
<p>I found out he was out of the SO only a couple of years ago. It amuses me that you know he wasn&#8217;t liked by many European EDs. Indeed, even though he wasn&#8217;t their &#8216;senior&#8217; (that was the Folo pgms chf), when he caught some EDs who were downstat or disliked by him, he treated them poorly and scolded them heavily in front of everyone. But no one ever dared to tell him anything. His position had nothing to do with leading the orgs; he often reminisced about the good times when he was in Russia or in the lrh house unit</p>
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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2024 15:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570245&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

... and on your blog:

https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-the-magnificent/
(I keep being amazed about the amount of details concerning the cult being available on the net.)

Interesting that Kotric is out of the SO.  During his tenure as CO CLO EU he was detested by quite a number of the EDs in Europe.

The names of Walter and Zara appeared in a funeral notice concerning Alfred Kotric on April 18, 2014 in Spittal/Austria, aged 87. Probably his father.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570245">LoosingMyReligion</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230; and on your blog:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-the-magnificent/" rel="ugc">https://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscavige-the-magnificent/</a><br />
(I keep being amazed about the amount of details concerning the cult being available on the net.)</p>
<p>Interesting that Kotric is out of the SO.  During his tenure as CO CLO EU he was detested by quite a number of the EDs in Europe.</p>
<p>The names of Walter and Zara appeared in a funeral notice concerning Alfred Kotric on April 18, 2014 in Spittal/Austria, aged 87. Probably his father.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2024 04:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570206&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

What I meant to say is exactly what Mike is saying, where you see DM&#039;s sociopathy in action. Of course, Kotric has always had an admiration/fearful reverence for DM. He ran like a rocket, and DM really liked that. After the dismantling of all the top execs in the early 2000s, for a certain period, Kotric seemed to receive orders directly from him. 
As far as I know, at least until a few years ago, he was still married to Zara but is no longer the Co CLO and not even in SO for health reasons. It seems he&#039;s returned to Austria and occasionally comes to visit her, who has become the CO NEP (CO New era pubs).&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570206">AnEx</a>.</p>
<p>What I meant to say is exactly what Mike is saying, where you see DM&#8217;s sociopathy in action. Of course, Kotric has always had an admiration/fearful reverence for DM. He ran like a rocket, and DM really liked that. After the dismantling of all the top execs in the early 2000s, for a certain period, Kotric seemed to receive orders directly from him.<br />
As far as I know, at least until a few years ago, he was still married to Zara but is no longer the Co CLO and not even in SO for health reasons. It seems he&#8217;s returned to Austria and occasionally comes to visit her, who has become the CO NEP (CO New era pubs).&#8221;</p>
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		By: Joe Pendleton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2024 00:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570216&quot;&gt;Hubbard is central to Scientology&#039;s nastiness to the world today&lt;/a&gt;.

Xenu! He&#039;s to blame as to make modern spiritual requirements the exorcism to free the stuck to us imprisoned souls. For a moment, I thought you would forget about them.]]></description>
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<p>Xenu! He&#8217;s to blame as to make modern spiritual requirements the exorcism to free the stuck to us imprisoned souls. For a moment, I thought you would forget about them.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2024 22:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570206&quot;&gt;AnEx&lt;/a&gt;.

Walter running afoul of Miscavige at the Madrid ideal org is covered in my book.]]></description>
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<p>Walter running afoul of Miscavige at the Madrid ideal org is covered in my book.</p>
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		By: Hubbard is central to Scientology's nastiness to the world today		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2024 22:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The late Suzy Watson Taylor, in the tiny time I was in Author Services Inc, when Suzy was over getting LRH&#039;s Battlefield Earth into a movie, my time in ASI was May 1992 until Dec 1995 only, and Suzy was very circumspect when she and then Marketing Dir ASI G.Lane would discuss the &quot;hot&quot; scene at Int Base, because sometimes G.L. would have to go uplines, G.L almost always got things easily approved by DM, and ASI did have to get approval to things by DM (there is some hidden reasoning to this, namely I witnessed personally DM retained his COB ASI logon and Shelly retained her COB ASST ASI logon, in fact I ensured their logons &quot;worked&quot; for them, weekly, part of my computer operator ASI weekly checklist).

To the point, Suzy Watson Taylor, the late, was extremely good with words, and could discuss when DM was going batshit on Gold staff, including, several times I inferred what she commented meant that DM was striking some people at Int Base, namely the &quot;Gold&quot; staff DM nastily got physical with, and this was in the 92 to 95 time slot.   I think more after the IRS win, was when Miscavige went bonkers and got unrestrained in his misdemeanor battery of Int and Gold staff.

IN hindsight, were I there, I&#039;d have lost it, had I seen what I&#039;ve heard of all this physical abuse, meaning I&#039;d have walked off the base, gone to the police, and just pulled the plug.

I was a &quot;wog&quot; going into the Hubbard horrible Sea Org cult and I still believed, our police, and authorities, meaning FBI and authorities like prosecutors, were the &quot;good guys&quot; and always the ones ALL of society has to put their faith in.

Police, FBI, US Govt agencies, state and fed prosecutors, are the GOOD guys.

Cult nuts, and the Sea Orgers at Int Base under DM&#039;s era, went nuts on each other, are legally liable, in the broad view.

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve have survived long, without going to the police, had I witnessed the degree of the misdemeanor battery that went on at Int Base.

Miscavige is mostly to blame, but it turned into mob self dehuminization, and besides Miscavige, ULTIMATELY this Sea Org cult is L. Ron Hubbard&#039;s baby.

L. Ron Hubbard&#039;s writings allowed the vicious interpretations that turned into mob self battery between staff at Int Base.

It ought to have become a police matter, and stopped, and must be stopped IF it ever continues in ANY Sea Org unit anywhere in the world.

Hubbard&#039;s writings open the door to letting sociopathic interpretations which cross the line lawfully, and need to become POLICE matters in the future any time misdemeanor battery staff to staff, occurs in the Hubbard Sea Org.

Hubbard deserves the most condemnation, but I never worked close enough to Miscavige&#039;s lines, other than to get the stories third and sometimes second and a few times firsthand by those beaten, spit on, punched, by Miscavige, and when I reported it to the Riverside Country Police, they said people need to come report it.   And other critics at the time, on A.R.S chat site said people with physical marks of the battery need first to go to Emergency Medical facilities and get their wounds recorded by medical, for evidence in the police work.

The psychological near-torture of the Hubbard rules when fascistically interpreted and applied inside Sea Org needs always be written about by ex Sea Orgers once they get their heads on straight and literate enough to express the horrible predicaments they were placed in.

----------------------------------------

Hubbard&#039;s confines within &quot;official Scientology&quot; will always be bad.

Only splinter Scientologists have the option to dispense with the Hubbard fascism.  

And to outsiders, interested in the Scientology Hubbard soul theory stuff, it&#039;s simple.   Scientology is essentially pseudo-therapy delving into our supposed &quot;past lives&quot; accumulated &quot;case&quot; trauma, to supposedly defuse and &quot;Clear&quot; it.   And then upper Scientology of modern official Scientology consists of 5 &quot;upper levels&quot; of exorcism/soul freeing of invisible souls which Xenu mass murdered in the 4th Dynamic Engram, and Xenu implanted these bodiless souls with the R6 nastiest implants, supposedly, and those R6 implanted souls infest all humans today requiring the five Hubbard exorcism/soul freeing &quot;advanced&quot; (aka exorcism) steps.    Because those invisible souls LEAK the R6 implant material into our minds, supposedly, even if we are &quot;Clear.&quot;

The damned Hubbard never allowed what I said above to be simply explained, but that&#039;s the extent of the &quot;case&quot; alleviation soul practices of Scientology.

I say skip it all, and only study under splinter decent personality &quot;free zone&quot; Scientologists, if you must do these soul pseudo-therapy and exorcism/soul-freeing practices of Hubbard&#039;s.

The rest of Hubbard&#039;s totalitarian nastiness, just never allow yourself to ever do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The late Suzy Watson Taylor, in the tiny time I was in Author Services Inc, when Suzy was over getting LRH&#8217;s Battlefield Earth into a movie, my time in ASI was May 1992 until Dec 1995 only, and Suzy was very circumspect when she and then Marketing Dir ASI G.Lane would discuss the &#8220;hot&#8221; scene at Int Base, because sometimes G.L. would have to go uplines, G.L almost always got things easily approved by DM, and ASI did have to get approval to things by DM (there is some hidden reasoning to this, namely I witnessed personally DM retained his COB ASI logon and Shelly retained her COB ASST ASI logon, in fact I ensured their logons &#8220;worked&#8221; for them, weekly, part of my computer operator ASI weekly checklist).</p>
<p>To the point, Suzy Watson Taylor, the late, was extremely good with words, and could discuss when DM was going batshit on Gold staff, including, several times I inferred what she commented meant that DM was striking some people at Int Base, namely the &#8220;Gold&#8221; staff DM nastily got physical with, and this was in the 92 to 95 time slot.   I think more after the IRS win, was when Miscavige went bonkers and got unrestrained in his misdemeanor battery of Int and Gold staff.</p>
<p>IN hindsight, were I there, I&#8217;d have lost it, had I seen what I&#8217;ve heard of all this physical abuse, meaning I&#8217;d have walked off the base, gone to the police, and just pulled the plug.</p>
<p>I was a &#8220;wog&#8221; going into the Hubbard horrible Sea Org cult and I still believed, our police, and authorities, meaning FBI and authorities like prosecutors, were the &#8220;good guys&#8221; and always the ones ALL of society has to put their faith in.</p>
<p>Police, FBI, US Govt agencies, state and fed prosecutors, are the GOOD guys.</p>
<p>Cult nuts, and the Sea Orgers at Int Base under DM&#8217;s era, went nuts on each other, are legally liable, in the broad view.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve have survived long, without going to the police, had I witnessed the degree of the misdemeanor battery that went on at Int Base.</p>
<p>Miscavige is mostly to blame, but it turned into mob self dehuminization, and besides Miscavige, ULTIMATELY this Sea Org cult is L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s baby.</p>
<p>L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s writings allowed the vicious interpretations that turned into mob self battery between staff at Int Base.</p>
<p>It ought to have become a police matter, and stopped, and must be stopped IF it ever continues in ANY Sea Org unit anywhere in the world.</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s writings open the door to letting sociopathic interpretations which cross the line lawfully, and need to become POLICE matters in the future any time misdemeanor battery staff to staff, occurs in the Hubbard Sea Org.</p>
<p>Hubbard deserves the most condemnation, but I never worked close enough to Miscavige&#8217;s lines, other than to get the stories third and sometimes second and a few times firsthand by those beaten, spit on, punched, by Miscavige, and when I reported it to the Riverside Country Police, they said people need to come report it.   And other critics at the time, on A.R.S chat site said people with physical marks of the battery need first to go to Emergency Medical facilities and get their wounds recorded by medical, for evidence in the police work.</p>
<p>The psychological near-torture of the Hubbard rules when fascistically interpreted and applied inside Sea Org needs always be written about by ex Sea Orgers once they get their heads on straight and literate enough to express the horrible predicaments they were placed in.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s confines within &#8220;official Scientology&#8221; will always be bad.</p>
<p>Only splinter Scientologists have the option to dispense with the Hubbard fascism.  </p>
<p>And to outsiders, interested in the Scientology Hubbard soul theory stuff, it&#8217;s simple.   Scientology is essentially pseudo-therapy delving into our supposed &#8220;past lives&#8221; accumulated &#8220;case&#8221; trauma, to supposedly defuse and &#8220;Clear&#8221; it.   And then upper Scientology of modern official Scientology consists of 5 &#8220;upper levels&#8221; of exorcism/soul freeing of invisible souls which Xenu mass murdered in the 4th Dynamic Engram, and Xenu implanted these bodiless souls with the R6 nastiest implants, supposedly, and those R6 implanted souls infest all humans today requiring the five Hubbard exorcism/soul freeing &#8220;advanced&#8221; (aka exorcism) steps.    Because those invisible souls LEAK the R6 implant material into our minds, supposedly, even if we are &#8220;Clear.&#8221;</p>
<p>The damned Hubbard never allowed what I said above to be simply explained, but that&#8217;s the extent of the &#8220;case&#8221; alleviation soul practices of Scientology.</p>
<p>I say skip it all, and only study under splinter decent personality &#8220;free zone&#8221; Scientologists, if you must do these soul pseudo-therapy and exorcism/soul-freeing practices of Hubbard&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The rest of Hubbard&#8217;s totalitarian nastiness, just never allow yourself to ever do it.</p>
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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2024 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-2-the-traits-of-a-sociopath/#comment-570186&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

I cannot make sense of your last paragraph - looks somewhat scrambled. 

Kotric was or is married to Zara. In the mid 90&#039;s they came to Int as command teams were being trained up for every continent. (Those command teams were the then envisioned solution to all the problems.)

Both were then sent to CLO EU: Copenhagen. And from what I recall Kotric always idolized Miscavige.]]></description>
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<p>I cannot make sense of your last paragraph &#8211; looks somewhat scrambled. </p>
<p>Kotric was or is married to Zara. In the mid 90&#8217;s they came to Int as command teams were being trained up for every continent. (Those command teams were the then envisioned solution to all the problems.)</p>
<p>Both were then sent to CLO EU: Copenhagen. And from what I recall Kotric always idolized Miscavige.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[What you wrote reminded me when Madrid became &quot;ideal&quot; and the CoFolo EU couldn&#039;t answer a DM question about renovations (which, by the way, were not CoFolo&#039;s business) and ended up directly in the Rpf without even saying goodbye to his wife. 
Meanwhile, they asked you to change Walter Kotric (CoCloEU) mind who, after being criticized and flattened by DM empaty, for I don&#039;t remember what, wanted to quit and leave the SO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you wrote reminded me when Madrid became &#8220;ideal&#8221; and the CoFolo EU couldn&#8217;t answer a DM question about renovations (which, by the way, were not CoFolo&#8217;s business) and ended up directly in the Rpf without even saying goodbye to his wife.<br />
Meanwhile, they asked you to change Walter Kotric (CoCloEU) mind who, after being criticized and flattened by DM empaty, for I don&#8217;t remember what, wanted to quit and leave the SO.</p>
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