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		By: Suzie Lovell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2024 17:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We finally finished reading this in psychology and all the points you have made on these blog posts are excellent I mentioned these posts to my professor and he found them very helpful for the class to understand more about sociopaths. He pulled me aside after class and said your blog posts will be very helpful for our next unit in class. So I am pretty thrilled to see what is next for that class.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We finally finished reading this in psychology and all the points you have made on these blog posts are excellent I mentioned these posts to my professor and he found them very helpful for the class to understand more about sociopaths. He pulled me aside after class and said your blog posts will be very helpful for our next unit in class. So I am pretty thrilled to see what is next for that class.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 04:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Correct spelling: &quot;NureMberg&quot;.]]></description>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 04:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very interesting article packing a powerful punch of truth.  Piggybacking off of it (like, what&#039;s up with all this alliteration all of sudden, its not intentional) I strongly recommend watching the film &quot;Judgement At Nurenberg&quot;  to gain further insight into why/how decent, aware and well educated people can be persueded to accept, support and defend human rights abuses, crimes and atrocities. This is a powerful film.  I hope you take my suggestion to watch it but even if you don&#039;t PLEASE don&#039;t form the preconceived idea that I am in any way likening David Miscavige to Adolph Hitler, or defining the human rights abuses rampant in Scienology with the Holocaust which exterminated 6 million people.  I am NOT doing that!

They are NOT similar crimes! 

 But...BUT!    What caused highly educated and knowledgeable  German JUDGES to carry out Hilter&#039;s monstrous policies with regard to Jews (which is the subject of the movie, i.e., the trials of these judges in Nurenberg in 1948), in brief, what worked on the MINDS of these judges, who KNEW BETTER, who KNEW right from wrong to carry out and administer these atrocious policies in their capacities as jurists - on this point, I believe can a striking parallel be drawn between Scientology and Nazi Germany  1933 -  1945, aka the Third Reich.

Spencer Tracy, Burt Lancaster, Maximillian Schell,  Mongomery Clift, Marlene Dietrich, Judy Garland (yes, and she was amazing, but then they were all amazing, no kidding).  Treat yourself!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article packing a powerful punch of truth.  Piggybacking off of it (like, what&#8217;s up with all this alliteration all of sudden, its not intentional) I strongly recommend watching the film &#8220;Judgement At Nurenberg&#8221;  to gain further insight into why/how decent, aware and well educated people can be persueded to accept, support and defend human rights abuses, crimes and atrocities. This is a powerful film.  I hope you take my suggestion to watch it but even if you don&#8217;t PLEASE don&#8217;t form the preconceived idea that I am in any way likening David Miscavige to Adolph Hitler, or defining the human rights abuses rampant in Scienology with the Holocaust which exterminated 6 million people.  I am NOT doing that!</p>
<p>They are NOT similar crimes! </p>
<p> But&#8230;BUT!    What caused highly educated and knowledgeable  German JUDGES to carry out Hilter&#8217;s monstrous policies with regard to Jews (which is the subject of the movie, i.e., the trials of these judges in Nurenberg in 1948), in brief, what worked on the MINDS of these judges, who KNEW BETTER, who KNEW right from wrong to carry out and administer these atrocious policies in their capacities as jurists &#8211; on this point, I believe can a striking parallel be drawn between Scientology and Nazi Germany  1933 &#8211;  1945, aka the Third Reich.</p>
<p>Spencer Tracy, Burt Lancaster, Maximillian Schell,  Mongomery Clift, Marlene Dietrich, Judy Garland (yes, and she was amazing, but then they were all amazing, no kidding).  Treat yourself!</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 23:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personal Responsibility always opposes X.]]></description>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I&#039;ve always seen in DM is the ability to exercise power based on the position one holds and what they can do to you. Nothing ever related to empathy or interest in others. On the contrary. 

In other words: now that you believe scn is the means to your &quot;freedom,&quot; I can prevent it if you don&#039;t do as I say. So, scn is fascism. Fascism and sociopathy have always gone hand in hand, just look at history. Fascism is totalitarianism, a mandatory one-way street. Scn wants to be spiritual, social, and mental totalitarianism. 

The fact that a person needs an authority to tell them what is right and wrong and where to go is a condition present in a certain percentage of the human race. It&#039;s a condition of trust induced by an individual&#039;s inability to have self-awareness and believing that someone else can do it for you. The real problem in the end is that this also influences the others.
In scny, you are &quot;educated&quot; to believe that you are in the true and only truth and that everything hubbard said is pure gold. Therefore, the leader is always right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;ve always seen in DM is the ability to exercise power based on the position one holds and what they can do to you. Nothing ever related to empathy or interest in others. On the contrary. </p>
<p>In other words: now that you believe scn is the means to your &#8220;freedom,&#8221; I can prevent it if you don&#8217;t do as I say. So, scn is fascism. Fascism and sociopathy have always gone hand in hand, just look at history. Fascism is totalitarianism, a mandatory one-way street. Scn wants to be spiritual, social, and mental totalitarianism. </p>
<p>The fact that a person needs an authority to tell them what is right and wrong and where to go is a condition present in a certain percentage of the human race. It&#8217;s a condition of trust induced by an individual&#8217;s inability to have self-awareness and believing that someone else can do it for you. The real problem in the end is that this also influences the others.<br />
In scny, you are &#8220;educated&#8221; to believe that you are in the true and only truth and that everything hubbard said is pure gold. Therefore, the leader is always right.</p>
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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 18:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh boy, doesn&#039;t this separate the chaff from the seed. It takes a brave soul to grasp and use this sort of information in life. As I see it and experience this sort of life analysis, the path to understanding and then applying this info can indeed be oh so lonely, albeit enlightening - but it can lead to heralding new and better beginnings if one can handle the initial heat in the kitchen. 
I often wondered at my military and then Scientology experience just what sort of and how much of a robot I had been. But it actually made it easier in a weird sort of way to later see this &quot;rank &#038; file obedience&#039; everywhere. I gasp at politics, but one little aspect I made sense out of the insanity of it was a lot of so-called leaders come out of school, go to university, pop out of that with a head full of &#039;know best&#039; installed by professors who can&#039;t make it out in life themselves and embark on a political career (or follow family traditions/money). They have zero (can also be defined as negative) life experience but become seasoned in the game of politics for politics sake &#038; how to survive in it. Very few if any make it without being &quot;the chosen ones&quot; by &#039;authority&#039;s acceptance.&#039; I guess it&#039;s the natural home of the sociopathicly inclined. Having a conscience can be a dangerous liability except for the extremely strong willed. There are well meaning exceptions of course but there&#039;s also things like those that own/run the banks &#038; the CIA and other things that go bump in the night too.
The mass exodus of students and the declaring of many senior tech terminals from Saint Hill around the time Hubbard wrote KSW1 is an indicative example of what Martha is explaining. With the introduction of the SO and then a sociopath like Miscavige eventually taking over &#038; following Hubbard&#039;s lead, (sigh) and here we are... 
Haha, Hubbard had the sheer audacity to lecture about &#039;PTS to the middle class&#039; when he himself was a major part of the problem for so many. He also obsessively pointed blame to psychiatry and Govt&#039;s to mask his gross incompetence of never understanding, or worse, destroying what workable technology actually is, so he lied and became an authority - the ultimate mask to wear to shift attention off failure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy, doesn&#8217;t this separate the chaff from the seed. It takes a brave soul to grasp and use this sort of information in life. As I see it and experience this sort of life analysis, the path to understanding and then applying this info can indeed be oh so lonely, albeit enlightening &#8211; but it can lead to heralding new and better beginnings if one can handle the initial heat in the kitchen.<br />
I often wondered at my military and then Scientology experience just what sort of and how much of a robot I had been. But it actually made it easier in a weird sort of way to later see this &#8220;rank &amp; file obedience&#8217; everywhere. I gasp at politics, but one little aspect I made sense out of the insanity of it was a lot of so-called leaders come out of school, go to university, pop out of that with a head full of &#8216;know best&#8217; installed by professors who can&#8217;t make it out in life themselves and embark on a political career (or follow family traditions/money). They have zero (can also be defined as negative) life experience but become seasoned in the game of politics for politics sake &amp; how to survive in it. Very few if any make it without being &#8220;the chosen ones&#8221; by &#8216;authority&#8217;s acceptance.&#8217; I guess it&#8217;s the natural home of the sociopathicly inclined. Having a conscience can be a dangerous liability except for the extremely strong willed. There are well meaning exceptions of course but there&#8217;s also things like those that own/run the banks &amp; the CIA and other things that go bump in the night too.<br />
The mass exodus of students and the declaring of many senior tech terminals from Saint Hill around the time Hubbard wrote KSW1 is an indicative example of what Martha is explaining. With the introduction of the SO and then a sociopath like Miscavige eventually taking over &amp; following Hubbard&#8217;s lead, (sigh) and here we are&#8230;<br />
Haha, Hubbard had the sheer audacity to lecture about &#8216;PTS to the middle class&#8217; when he himself was a major part of the problem for so many. He also obsessively pointed blame to psychiatry and Govt&#8217;s to mask his gross incompetence of never understanding, or worse, destroying what workable technology actually is, so he lied and became an authority &#8211; the ultimate mask to wear to shift attention off failure.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 16:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love the book &quot;The Sociopath Next Door.&quot;  Read it twice.  Thanks for posting about it.  On a different but related subject, where are the Thursday Funnies?  We used to get a new Thursday Funny cartoon every week, but I haven&#039;t seen them for a long time now.  Is the author of them alive?  What&#039;s up?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the book &#8220;The Sociopath Next Door.&#8221;  Read it twice.  Thanks for posting about it.  On a different but related subject, where are the Thursday Funnies?  We used to get a new Thursday Funny cartoon every week, but I haven&#8217;t seen them for a long time now.  Is the author of them alive?  What&#8217;s up?</p>
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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AnEx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2024 14:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tampa Bay Times story about two Scientologists having been found to have stolen many of Mark Bunker’s re-election yard signs in Clearwater: 
https://www.tampabay.com/news/clearwater/2024/03/07/scientologists-stole-clearwater-council-members-campaign-signs-police-say/

Here is what Mark Bunker says about the theft and why he did not want to have them charged:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br6Z6d1_pgE

I think it is noteworthy here because he does not blame the two Scientologists but points the spotlight onto the sociopath, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;...the ruthless leader David Miscavige who is holding our downtown hostage and all the abuses which target primarily the Scientologists themselves.&quot; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tampa Bay Times story about two Scientologists having been found to have stolen many of Mark Bunker’s re-election yard signs in Clearwater:<br />
<a href="https://www.tampabay.com/news/clearwater/2024/03/07/scientologists-stole-clearwater-council-members-campaign-signs-police-say/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tampabay.com/news/clearwater/2024/03/07/scientologists-stole-clearwater-council-members-campaign-signs-police-say/</a></p>
<p>Here is what Mark Bunker says about the theft and why he did not want to have them charged:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br6Z6d1_pgE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br6Z6d1_pgE</a></p>
<p>I think it is noteworthy here because he does not blame the two Scientologists but points the spotlight onto the sociopath, <b>&#8220;&#8230;the ruthless leader David Miscavige who is holding our downtown hostage and all the abuses which target primarily the Scientologists themselves.&#8221; </b></p>
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