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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2024 11:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-6-the-tools-of-the-trade/#comment-574960&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

What are you really implying? Beautiful plumage?]]></description>
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<p>What are you really implying? Beautiful plumage?</p>
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		By: Kim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2024 07:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-6-the-tools-of-the-trade/#comment-575018&quot;&gt;Momo&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mike
I miss you on youtube, but it probably is not the right move.
Apostate Alex is just the opposite of a sociopath. He is now, in the Daily Mail, with anti scientology message. He actually does dangerous things, going against scientology, he dealers with facts, and he tries not to distract. He has the charm, of not being fake. Well done to Alex.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sociopathy-part-6-the-tools-of-the-trade/#comment-575018">Momo</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mike<br />
I miss you on youtube, but it probably is not the right move.<br />
Apostate Alex is just the opposite of a sociopath. He is now, in the Daily Mail, with anti scientology message. He actually does dangerous things, going against scientology, he dealers with facts, and he tries not to distract. He has the charm, of not being fake. Well done to Alex.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2024 22:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Missing you over on YouTube, Mike. Hope you&#039;re doing well.]]></description>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The definition of Sociopath may apply to Andrew Cunanan. For those who&#039;re unaware Cunanan was the perpetrator of a killing spree that ended with fashion designer Gianni Versace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The definition of Sociopath may apply to Andrew Cunanan. For those who&#8217;re unaware Cunanan was the perpetrator of a killing spree that ended with fashion designer Gianni Versace.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something I once wrote about Hubbard: &quot;He’s passed on! This prophet is no more! He has ceased to be! He’s expired and gone to meet his maker! He’s a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn&#039;t nailed him to the chair he&#039;d be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He’s off the twig! He’s kicked the bucket. He’s dropped his body and moved on to Target Two!! THIS IS AN EX-PROPHET!!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I once wrote about Hubbard: &#8220;He’s passed on! This prophet is no more! He has ceased to be! He’s expired and gone to meet his maker! He’s a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn&#8217;t nailed him to the chair he&#8217;d be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He’s off the twig! He’s kicked the bucket. He’s dropped his body and moved on to Target Two!! THIS IS AN EX-PROPHET!!&#8221;</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, first of all, thank you for sharing this information. There are people with these characteristics around, and it&#039;s important to recognize them. They don&#039;t look or behave like the villains in movies; quite the opposite. It&#039;s crucial to be able to recognize them. 
As for DM, if I were to use a term from scn (just as an example, since hubbard stands for being a &#039;source&#039; of something as useful as a pothole in the road), I would say he&#039;s an NCG (no case gain) by definition. From my point of view, he lacks that aspect of consciousness called the &#039;soul,&#039; not in the common sense of the term, but as that part of us linked to seeing others, to positive creation, to empathy, to the timeless and immaterial sense of what is good. Either one has it, or there&#039;s no saint or divine force that can help them change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, first of all, thank you for sharing this information. There are people with these characteristics around, and it&#8217;s important to recognize them. They don&#8217;t look or behave like the villains in movies; quite the opposite. It&#8217;s crucial to be able to recognize them.<br />
As for DM, if I were to use a term from scn (just as an example, since hubbard stands for being a &#8216;source&#8217; of something as useful as a pothole in the road), I would say he&#8217;s an NCG (no case gain) by definition. From my point of view, he lacks that aspect of consciousness called the &#8216;soul,&#8217; not in the common sense of the term, but as that part of us linked to seeing others, to positive creation, to empathy, to the timeless and immaterial sense of what is good. Either one has it, or there&#8217;s no saint or divine force that can help them change.</p>
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		By: Miscavige engaged in physical violence untold times at Int Base, "Knowledge Reports" is by LRH.....		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miscavige engaged in physical violence untold times at Int Base, "Knowledge Reports" is by LRH.....]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing which for me was the final straw, with my Sea Org commitment, was the violence.

What was going on, in my final years, was staff to staff physical violence.

Hubbard put this violence right into &quot;Knowledge Reports&quot; policy, and at least the one &quot;....if you see WDC SMI spit on him for me....&quot; statements from Hubbard to top management persons, I think that order went to Miscavige.

Hubbard is as root for these violence tinged comments which to me I took as NOT do such things, but others clearly thought striking other staff who were deemed &#039;saboteurs&#039; to other staff, was justified.

It&#039;s not, it&#039;s misdemeanor battery.   But to report such misdemeanor battery, which I did contemplate, when I watched CO INCOMM punch and slap at a female Divisional boss, in broad view of about 15 of us underlings, and I was on a project not under the women being punched on her arms and shoulders, at least the CO INCOMM didn&#039;t strike her head.

To hear of the number of times Miscavige committed what clearly sounds like misdemeanor battery, and how other Int Base staffers were goaded by Miscavige to follow suit, and do similar to one another, is truly cult behavior.

Cult staff/members can&#039;t let go on such violence, and ought report it to police.

Which is why I had hopes that ex police and ex prosecutors would come to the forums where the Sea Org staff to staff violence is discussed, and offer their advice.

First off, I hope this constant violence behavior is exposed enough to get the Scientology staffers UP to the point of knowing it is the right thing to report this type of &quot;Knowledge Reports&quot; level of future &quot;justified&quot; Hubbard ordered violence.

Hubbard was so wrong, and this to me is the crux of what is most horribly wrong, this violence kick that Hubbard has left as Sea Org staffer and regular staffer options, due to the way &quot;Knowledge Reports&quot; policy has been intrepreted in years past.   

Mike, that you were traumatized with years of Miscavige&#039;s physical violence to me appears to rise to the  degree felony level violation of the California laws, all by itself.  (Repeated/serial  misdemeanors I think rise to felony level charges, I don&#039;t know for sure.)   I wish Aftermath Foundation of the other Foundation started, get some police/lawyer/prosecutor input on the &quot;Knowledge Reports&quot; level violence incidents in the past and ongoing, by Scientology staff to staff.  

 I hope future Scientology staffers, all echelons, call 911, go to dispensaries and get their bruises legally photo&#039;d and treated, and then get Scientology&#039;s/Hubbard&#039;s violence forever prosecuted whenever it shows up in the future.

(As psychologically traumatizing as the Fair Gaming lies about you Mike being the one who is violent, LOST to everyone&#039;s thoughts are the number of times Miscavige punched and laid hands on you, all those times by Miscavige striking and laying hands in threat on Int Base staff, needs NEVER be forgotten!)

(My own boss at ASI, when she was returned from just having been &quot;cleaned up/hatted&quot; under RTC, called me singly into her office, then launched into me verbally screaming, for my post failures, and she pulled out a letter opener pointing at my throat, and thrusting the letter opener a second time at my throat so as to tell me she meant it the first time, granted this was across her desk to me sitting in a chair 6-8 feet away thankfully.   it is mind completely discombobulating when Sea Org staff threaten violence or do minor misdemeanor battery on one another, it&#039;s why is can&#039;t be forgotten and has to be rooted out and police/911 called when it ever happens again in this &quot;religion angle&quot; &quot;religion&quot; Scientology.)

Miscavige&#039;s history of violence and demeaning of Int Base staff ought be compiled into a document, and submitted to the &quot;new religion&quot; studying journals.  

Hubbard again is at bottom, his words have justified the tough battery within limits (supposedly) level of physical violence in Scientology staff ranks.   &quot;Knowledge Reports&quot; is the Hubbard most recent writing easily interpreted to engage in this &quot;tough&quot; &quot;battery within limits&quot; level of staff to staff interaction.

Hubbard had no business shackling people to his excessive regulations.  

Imagine when Hubbard told Sarge that Hubbard admitted he&#039;d failed, and that Hubbard was not coming back to earth.   Imagine if Sarge had grabbed Hubbard by the collar and slapped Hubbard and told Hubbard to straighten up, and &quot;Ron, you better do Treason Condition right this moment!&quot;    Because Hubbard was in Doubt/Treason for saying that to Sarge!

Hubbard was never one to assign himself lower conditions, and no one else dared assign Hubbard his own &quot;lower conditions&quot; or stood up to Ron&#039;s nattering and ordered Hubbard to sec checking to find out Hubbard&#039;s misdeeds!!   

 There are countless flaws in the Scientology regulations which Hubbard deserved his own &quot;lower conditions&quot; for making Hubbard&#039;s extreme feelings &quot;policy&quot; for the movement members.

That whole unbalanced aspect of Hubbard making rules he himself did not abide by, and then on top Hubbard writing allowing staff to go after each other up to misdemeanor level battery on one another, is cult criteria of such a group, and it goes back to Hubbard.

Not only does it take some sociopaths to interpret Hubbard literally, like Miscavige has, but even leaving the &quot;figurative&quot; Hubbard options on the policy regulations list, is grounds to keep calling Scientology a cult.

New Religion scholars minimally have to get into these level weeds about the &quot;new religions&quot; and when I left Sea Org, and in 2005 the newspaper I worked for did an article on me, I wanted to reach out and meet the &quot;new religion&quot; scholars (Melton, Cowan, Bromley) and was invited to speak to them unofficially, which I did.  Prof Beverley was there with the others.  The violence, to me, was the issue then, and still now, which is so easy to PLEASE bring up.

A &quot;new religion&#039;s&quot; violence characteristics and their justified &quot;scriptures&quot; which are being interpreted to engage in what seems absolutely clearly to be &quot;misdemeanor battery&quot; minimally, has to be discussed and used in the criteria of discussion about this or that &quot;new religion.&quot;

Scientology clearly has scriptural written policy that has been interpreted so as to cause &quot;misdemeanor battery&quot; staff to staff.

The attack at the Doctor&#039;s Office parking lot, to me, is an extension of that &quot;Knowledge Report&quot; justification, because your ex wife could clearly have chosen not to even approach you closely as she and the others did, I so wish that moment had been filmed from the outside.   I wonder if Scientology ever filmed that moment.

The point though, Scientology has an irrational violence side, and it traces to Hubbard&#039;s writings, with &quot;Knowledge Reports&quot; being the final word from Hubbard.  

Chuck Beatty
ex Sea Org 75 to 03, paperpusher staffer dupe, the whole thing of Scientology is a waste to me today, I never should have walked into Phoenix Org, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing which for me was the final straw, with my Sea Org commitment, was the violence.</p>
<p>What was going on, in my final years, was staff to staff physical violence.</p>
<p>Hubbard put this violence right into &#8220;Knowledge Reports&#8221; policy, and at least the one &#8220;&#8230;.if you see WDC SMI spit on him for me&#8230;.&#8221; statements from Hubbard to top management persons, I think that order went to Miscavige.</p>
<p>Hubbard is as root for these violence tinged comments which to me I took as NOT do such things, but others clearly thought striking other staff who were deemed &#8216;saboteurs&#8217; to other staff, was justified.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not, it&#8217;s misdemeanor battery.   But to report such misdemeanor battery, which I did contemplate, when I watched CO INCOMM punch and slap at a female Divisional boss, in broad view of about 15 of us underlings, and I was on a project not under the women being punched on her arms and shoulders, at least the CO INCOMM didn&#8217;t strike her head.</p>
<p>To hear of the number of times Miscavige committed what clearly sounds like misdemeanor battery, and how other Int Base staffers were goaded by Miscavige to follow suit, and do similar to one another, is truly cult behavior.</p>
<p>Cult staff/members can&#8217;t let go on such violence, and ought report it to police.</p>
<p>Which is why I had hopes that ex police and ex prosecutors would come to the forums where the Sea Org staff to staff violence is discussed, and offer their advice.</p>
<p>First off, I hope this constant violence behavior is exposed enough to get the Scientology staffers UP to the point of knowing it is the right thing to report this type of &#8220;Knowledge Reports&#8221; level of future &#8220;justified&#8221; Hubbard ordered violence.</p>
<p>Hubbard was so wrong, and this to me is the crux of what is most horribly wrong, this violence kick that Hubbard has left as Sea Org staffer and regular staffer options, due to the way &#8220;Knowledge Reports&#8221; policy has been intrepreted in years past.   </p>
<p>Mike, that you were traumatized with years of Miscavige&#8217;s physical violence to me appears to rise to the  degree felony level violation of the California laws, all by itself.  (Repeated/serial  misdemeanors I think rise to felony level charges, I don&#8217;t know for sure.)   I wish Aftermath Foundation of the other Foundation started, get some police/lawyer/prosecutor input on the &#8220;Knowledge Reports&#8221; level violence incidents in the past and ongoing, by Scientology staff to staff.  </p>
<p> I hope future Scientology staffers, all echelons, call 911, go to dispensaries and get their bruises legally photo&#8217;d and treated, and then get Scientology&#8217;s/Hubbard&#8217;s violence forever prosecuted whenever it shows up in the future.</p>
<p>(As psychologically traumatizing as the Fair Gaming lies about you Mike being the one who is violent, LOST to everyone&#8217;s thoughts are the number of times Miscavige punched and laid hands on you, all those times by Miscavige striking and laying hands in threat on Int Base staff, needs NEVER be forgotten!)</p>
<p>(My own boss at ASI, when she was returned from just having been &#8220;cleaned up/hatted&#8221; under RTC, called me singly into her office, then launched into me verbally screaming, for my post failures, and she pulled out a letter opener pointing at my throat, and thrusting the letter opener a second time at my throat so as to tell me she meant it the first time, granted this was across her desk to me sitting in a chair 6-8 feet away thankfully.   it is mind completely discombobulating when Sea Org staff threaten violence or do minor misdemeanor battery on one another, it&#8217;s why is can&#8217;t be forgotten and has to be rooted out and police/911 called when it ever happens again in this &#8220;religion angle&#8221; &#8220;religion&#8221; Scientology.)</p>
<p>Miscavige&#8217;s history of violence and demeaning of Int Base staff ought be compiled into a document, and submitted to the &#8220;new religion&#8221; studying journals.  </p>
<p>Hubbard again is at bottom, his words have justified the tough battery within limits (supposedly) level of physical violence in Scientology staff ranks.   &#8220;Knowledge Reports&#8221; is the Hubbard most recent writing easily interpreted to engage in this &#8220;tough&#8221; &#8220;battery within limits&#8221; level of staff to staff interaction.</p>
<p>Hubbard had no business shackling people to his excessive regulations.  </p>
<p>Imagine when Hubbard told Sarge that Hubbard admitted he&#8217;d failed, and that Hubbard was not coming back to earth.   Imagine if Sarge had grabbed Hubbard by the collar and slapped Hubbard and told Hubbard to straighten up, and &#8220;Ron, you better do Treason Condition right this moment!&#8221;    Because Hubbard was in Doubt/Treason for saying that to Sarge!</p>
<p>Hubbard was never one to assign himself lower conditions, and no one else dared assign Hubbard his own &#8220;lower conditions&#8221; or stood up to Ron&#8217;s nattering and ordered Hubbard to sec checking to find out Hubbard&#8217;s misdeeds!!   </p>
<p> There are countless flaws in the Scientology regulations which Hubbard deserved his own &#8220;lower conditions&#8221; for making Hubbard&#8217;s extreme feelings &#8220;policy&#8221; for the movement members.</p>
<p>That whole unbalanced aspect of Hubbard making rules he himself did not abide by, and then on top Hubbard writing allowing staff to go after each other up to misdemeanor level battery on one another, is cult criteria of such a group, and it goes back to Hubbard.</p>
<p>Not only does it take some sociopaths to interpret Hubbard literally, like Miscavige has, but even leaving the &#8220;figurative&#8221; Hubbard options on the policy regulations list, is grounds to keep calling Scientology a cult.</p>
<p>New Religion scholars minimally have to get into these level weeds about the &#8220;new religions&#8221; and when I left Sea Org, and in 2005 the newspaper I worked for did an article on me, I wanted to reach out and meet the &#8220;new religion&#8221; scholars (Melton, Cowan, Bromley) and was invited to speak to them unofficially, which I did.  Prof Beverley was there with the others.  The violence, to me, was the issue then, and still now, which is so easy to PLEASE bring up.</p>
<p>A &#8220;new religion&#8217;s&#8221; violence characteristics and their justified &#8220;scriptures&#8221; which are being interpreted to engage in what seems absolutely clearly to be &#8220;misdemeanor battery&#8221; minimally, has to be discussed and used in the criteria of discussion about this or that &#8220;new religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scientology clearly has scriptural written policy that has been interpreted so as to cause &#8220;misdemeanor battery&#8221; staff to staff.</p>
<p>The attack at the Doctor&#8217;s Office parking lot, to me, is an extension of that &#8220;Knowledge Report&#8221; justification, because your ex wife could clearly have chosen not to even approach you closely as she and the others did, I so wish that moment had been filmed from the outside.   I wonder if Scientology ever filmed that moment.</p>
<p>The point though, Scientology has an irrational violence side, and it traces to Hubbard&#8217;s writings, with &#8220;Knowledge Reports&#8221; being the final word from Hubbard.  </p>
<p>Chuck Beatty<br />
ex Sea Org 75 to 03, paperpusher staffer dupe, the whole thing of Scientology is a waste to me today, I never should have walked into Phoenix Org, etc.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[This information is sobering. I for one, am a bit reticent on the subject, too much truth as these smiling, predatory representatives of humanity have been encountered numerous times, particularly those you thought were respectable. No one likes being &#039;taken for a ride&#039; and ripped off. 
The next encounter, (if it occurs, I&#039;m long in the tooth &#038; suspicious these days) is going to be interesting.
No wonder Miscavige hides like the cockroach he is from ex Scios and the law/media. Can&#039;t wait until he&#039;s cornered.
Martha, you are spot on!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information is sobering. I for one, am a bit reticent on the subject, too much truth as these smiling, predatory representatives of humanity have been encountered numerous times, particularly those you thought were respectable. No one likes being &#8216;taken for a ride&#8217; and ripped off.<br />
The next encounter, (if it occurs, I&#8217;m long in the tooth &amp; suspicious these days) is going to be interesting.<br />
No wonder Miscavige hides like the cockroach he is from ex Scios and the law/media. Can&#8217;t wait until he&#8217;s cornered.<br />
Martha, you are spot on!</p>
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		By: Tori James Art		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another great post Mike. You berig up alot of great points to this topic. It describes perfectly what both DMad LRH did/do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post Mike. You berig up alot of great points to this topic. It describes perfectly what both DMad LRH did/do.</p>
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