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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LoosingMyReligion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 21:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344932&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek. Yes this is a book I wanted to read. I will email you.]]></description>
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<p>Derek. Yes this is a book I wanted to read. I will email you.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LoosingMyReligion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 20:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344815&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek. I fully agree with you. SHe was above the shit of violence or verbal aggressivity. She could have took higher posts and made things going better. She suffered a lot when got &quot;promoted&quot; from Dcod&#038;e Aosh to Folo. Then she went on these folo tours crap and then VM. Franz Schuler became the DCO Aosh and now there is massimo pozzi (former dissem aide). She was a friend i hope she is fine.]]></description>
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<p>Derek. I fully agree with you. SHe was above the shit of violence or verbal aggressivity. She could have took higher posts and made things going better. She suffered a lot when got &#8220;promoted&#8221; from Dcod&amp;e Aosh to Folo. Then she went on these folo tours crap and then VM. Franz Schuler became the DCO Aosh and now there is massimo pozzi (former dissem aide). She was a friend i hope she is fine.</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 07:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344077&quot;&gt;Loosing My Religion&lt;/a&gt;.

@Loosing My Religion You need to get the book &#039;Bare-faced Messiah&#039; by Russel Miller. That&#039;s the true story of LRH and all the other shit he did. 
Can you pls mail me? If you want to of course.  derek5150@gmx.ch]]></description>
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<p>@Loosing My Religion You need to get the book &#8216;Bare-faced Messiah&#8217; by Russel Miller. That&#8217;s the true story of LRH and all the other shit he did.<br />
Can you pls mail me? If you want to of course.  <a href="mailto:derek5150@gmx.ch">derek5150@gmx.ch</a></p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 07:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344819&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much for this, it really sheds light on those bs past life stories. And I always felt something was wrong with me as I never went past-life during auditing :)]]></description>
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<p>Thank you very much for this, it really sheds light on those bs past life stories. And I always felt something was wrong with me as I never went past-life during auditing 🙂</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 13:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344790&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek, &quot;past track&quot; memories in Scientology are not real - they and supposed very early memories like birth or pre-natal are related to false memory syndrome phenomenon as happened, infamously, when therapists who were subtly leading small children got them to &quot;remember&quot; satanic ritual child abuse in preschools.  Wikipedia has a pretty good explanation of the phenomenon, which has actually been pretty well studied, both through investigating and debunking cases like that of the infamous Bridey Murphy, and in experiments in which researchers put subjects through regression techiques and then traced the origins of the false recollections elicited:

&quot;The &quot;memories&quot; recovered by techniques like past-life regression are the result of cryptomnesia: narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist.[sources 1] Memories created under hypnosis are indistinguishable from actual memories and can be more vivid than factual memories.[3][26] The greatest predictor of individuals reporting memories of past lives appears to be their beliefs—individuals who believe in reincarnation are more likely to report such memories, while skeptics or disbelievers are less so.[2][6]&quot;

&#062; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression#Sources_of_memories]]></description>
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<p>Derek, &#8220;past track&#8221; memories in Scientology are not real &#8211; they and supposed very early memories like birth or pre-natal are related to false memory syndrome phenomenon as happened, infamously, when therapists who were subtly leading small children got them to &#8220;remember&#8221; satanic ritual child abuse in preschools.  Wikipedia has a pretty good explanation of the phenomenon, which has actually been pretty well studied, both through investigating and debunking cases like that of the infamous Bridey Murphy, and in experiments in which researchers put subjects through regression techiques and then traced the origins of the false recollections elicited:</p>
<p>&#8220;The &#8220;memories&#8221; recovered by techniques like past-life regression are the result of cryptomnesia: narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist.[sources 1] Memories created under hypnosis are indistinguishable from actual memories and can be more vivid than factual memories.[3][26] The greatest predictor of individuals reporting memories of past lives appears to be their beliefs—individuals who believe in reincarnation are more likely to report such memories, while skeptics or disbelievers are less so.[2][6]&#8221;</p>
<p>&gt; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression#Sources_of_memories" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression#Sources_of_memories</a></p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 12:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344509&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

Jackie was definitely one of the good ones. She usually was the only one who didn&#039;t loose her shit when everybody else was. Also kept a level head even during the nightmarish bootcamp period shortly after realease of the basics.]]></description>
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<p>Jackie was definitely one of the good ones. She usually was the only one who didn&#8217;t loose her shit when everybody else was. Also kept a level head even during the nightmarish bootcamp period shortly after realease of the basics.</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 09:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344518&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

@LoosingMyReligion please mail me (if you want) derek5150@gmx.ch.]]></description>
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<p>@LoosingMyReligion please mail me (if you want) <a href="mailto:derek5150@gmx.ch">derek5150@gmx.ch</a>.</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 09:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344572&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

@PeaceMaker I always wondered whether those past track &#039;memories&#039; were real or not. I didn&#039;t know something like &#039;false memory syndrome&#039; existed. But it makes sense. And it happened frequently that the Cl V orgs would send a type 3 scn up to EU for &#039;handling&#039;. They had a WQSB worked out for the watches. They changed that later so the orgs handled their type-3&#039;s locally. But yeah, when you&#039;re a staff or SO member you WILL eventually be confronted with psychotics - whether it be your seniors or genuine type-3&#039;s! (that was a bad joke).]]></description>
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<p>@PeaceMaker I always wondered whether those past track &#8216;memories&#8217; were real or not. I didn&#8217;t know something like &#8216;false memory syndrome&#8217; existed. But it makes sense. And it happened frequently that the Cl V orgs would send a type 3 scn up to EU for &#8216;handling&#8217;. They had a WQSB worked out for the watches. They changed that later so the orgs handled their type-3&#8217;s locally. But yeah, when you&#8217;re a staff or SO member you WILL eventually be confronted with psychotics &#8211; whether it be your seniors or genuine type-3&#8217;s! (that was a bad joke).</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 03:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344471&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek, sadly interesting to hear that OT8 and other levels still produce mental and psychosomatic problems, as was infamous among the early OT8 completions.  I appreciate your sharing such relatively recent inside information.

Such unfortunate effects aren&#039;t surprising, however.  As I&#039;ve pointed out before, the abreactive therapy that Hubbard copied produced similar adverse outcomes and was abandoned, and techniques like regression produce false memory syndrome, which can also result in psychological problems.  Also, when Scientology is pushing people to the point of experiencing &quot;exteriorization,&quot; that is probably really just disassociation, which is one step short of psychosis - so it&#039;s also to be expected that some people would go over the edge into &quot;PTS Type-3.&quot;]]></description>
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<p>Derek, sadly interesting to hear that OT8 and other levels still produce mental and psychosomatic problems, as was infamous among the early OT8 completions.  I appreciate your sharing such relatively recent inside information.</p>
<p>Such unfortunate effects aren&#8217;t surprising, however.  As I&#8217;ve pointed out before, the abreactive therapy that Hubbard copied produced similar adverse outcomes and was abandoned, and techniques like regression produce false memory syndrome, which can also result in psychological problems.  Also, when Scientology is pushing people to the point of experiencing &#8220;exteriorization,&#8221; that is probably really just disassociation, which is one step short of psychosis &#8211; so it&#8217;s also to be expected that some people would go over the edge into &#8220;PTS Type-3.&#8221;</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LoosingMyReligion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2020 21:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-pr-advice-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-344471&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek. Thanks a lot. I mean it. 
If being on the radar means that I am somehow still in &#039;comm&#039; with scn or allowing them to be contacted the answer is no. 
I have consciously quit any relation with this scam.
When I left 15 years ago I went to the org few times but we went nowhere. All finished there. 
I had no more contacts. 
My current attention with a friend of mine (she was there when I was staff in EU) is to organize something to help people to DON&#039;T join or people whose have relatives inside to know what to do to wake them up. 
Sure we can exchange stories but mine are bit old. LOL.]]></description>
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<p>Derek. Thanks a lot. I mean it.<br />
If being on the radar means that I am somehow still in &#8216;comm&#8217; with scn or allowing them to be contacted the answer is no.<br />
I have consciously quit any relation with this scam.<br />
When I left 15 years ago I went to the org few times but we went nowhere. All finished there.<br />
I had no more contacts.<br />
My current attention with a friend of mine (she was there when I was staff in EU) is to organize something to help people to DON&#8217;T join or people whose have relatives inside to know what to do to wake them up.<br />
Sure we can exchange stories but mine are bit old. LOL.</p>
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